D-Wade talks to the official if someone looks cross-eyed at him. What's it going to be like when he gets called for one of these? Miami's going to burn two time outs per game while D-Wade bitches...
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D-Wade talks to the official if someone looks cross-eyed at him. What's it going to be like when he gets called for one of these? Miami's going to burn two time outs per game while D-Wade bitches...
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]The only Clipper that flopped yesterday at all was Hollins twice.[/QUOTE]
CP3 didn't play and Griffin was on the bench half the game.
[QUOTE=SevereUpInHere]CP3 didn't play and Griffin was on the bench half the game.[/QUOTE]
Blakey didn't flop at all when he played. At most he sold some legit contact that happened. But none of that shit we saw last season.
Then again, the season just started. Who knows what'll happen.
[QUOTE=SpecialQue]Blakey didn't flop at all when he played. At most he sold some legit contact that happened. But none of that shit we saw last season.
Then again, the season just started. Who knows what'll happen.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I didn't see any flops at all apart from the Hollins one CF86 mentioned, hopefully it makes a difference this season!
tight nerd outfits, rivals chilling in the offseason, and flopping
:roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm
[QUOTE=SevereUpInHere]Yeah I didn't see any flops at all apart from the Hollins one CF86 mentioned, hopefully it makes a difference this season![/QUOTE]
Maybe all the criticism got to him and I hope it did because even though I understand WHY he's flopping I'd obviously want him to stop doing it. He just looked like complete ass last night. He better dominate the next two China games vs Heat or I'm going to worry. All that work on his shot and he missed both midrange jumpers and went 2-6 from the line :facepalm .
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Maybe all the criticism got to him and I hope it did because even though I understand WHY he's flopping I'd obviously want him to stop doing it. He just looked like complete ass last night. He better dominate the next two China games vs Heat or I'm going to worry. All that work on his shot and he missed both midrange jumpers and went 2-6 from the line :facepalm .[/QUOTE]
Fingers crossed man, I'd be stoked if he didn't get fined for flopping all season, that would mean he's not doing it anymore. And agreed he looked garbage, I couldn't figure out what was going on with him. At least Bledsoe was looking really good.
is this for real??
[QUOTE=kNicKz]tight nerd outfits, rivals chilling in the offseason, and flopping
:roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Uconn avatar...
:roll: @ the CP3 one :oldlol:
I love this video. I'd post it on face-book but it tells you to open the link in a separate video player and there's still idiots out there that don't know how to do that.
What's with the narrator's voice? People don't talk like that anymore. Video seems fake.
[IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1087723/bron2_medium.gif[/IMG]
You can pretty much switch this play with Gallo's, and the comments from the video match up pretty damn well.
I noticed that almost every team that flops is considered elite or at least solid playoff teams. I wonder if flopping keeps these a notch above the rest.
[QUOTE=RoseCity07]I noticed that almost every team that flops is considered elite or at least solid playoff teams. I wonder if flopping keeps these a notch above the rest.[/QUOTE]
No, it's just that nobody pays attention to the bottom-feeders.
[QUOTE=RoseCity07]I noticed that almost every team that flops is considered elite or at least solid playoff teams. I wonder if flopping keeps these a notch above the rest.[/QUOTE]
If you are losing by double digits every night, what good does flopping do for you?
man flopping is a solid skill, im gonna miss it. i remember a game my school played last year where we were up by 5 with like 2 minutes left. all our shooters were cold and our 20 point lead had come down like crazy. I got the ball off the screen and remember someone barely touched me during the process. by instinct I just fell to the ground and got 2 FTs. we won by 2 :lol
gotta do what you gotta do :pimp:
[QUOTE=Sarcastic][IMG]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1087723/bron2_medium.gif[/IMG]
You can pretty much switch this play with Gallo's, and the comments from the video match up pretty damn well.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't that a flagrant on Tyson?
I remember watching it like wtf:confusedshrug: :facepalm
Also, solid flail, arm flap, roll around, neck grab..
Stay classy Lebron..
[QUOTE=coin24]Wasn't that a flagrant on Tyson?
I remember watching it like wtf:confusedshrug: :facepalm
Also, solid flail, arm flap, roll around, neck grab..
Stay classy Lebron..[/QUOTE]
That was a pretty heavy shot with an arm he got right there, and it was completely unexpected. It wasn't a flop IMO, take a closer look at the gif/video.. It looks weird, as it was unexpected, but no flop, maybe a LITTLE exageration that the guy in the video said was not gonna be penalized. Just faking the foul/contact, which is not the case here, so give the guy a break.
[QUOTE=Salazaar]That was a pretty heavy shot with an arm he got right there, and it was completely unexpected. It wasn't a flop IMO, take a closer look at the gif/video.. It looks weird, as it was unexpected, but no flop, maybe a LITTLE exageration that the guy in the video said was not gonna be penalized. Just faking the foul/contact, which is not the case here, so give the guy a break.[/QUOTE]
He probably would not have been penalized on that particular foul but he definitely exaggerated more than just a LITTLE.
[QUOTE=chosen_one6]He probably would not have been penalized on that particular foul but he definitely exaggerated more than just a LITTLE.[/QUOTE]
:lol :lol this..
After he copped the bump that should have been it. The flail and fall over was all acting..
[QUOTE=Salazaar]That was a pretty heavy shot with an arm he got right there, and it was completely unexpected. It wasn't a flop IMO, take a closer look at the gif/video.. It looks weird, as it was unexpected, but no flop, maybe a LITTLE exageration that the guy in the video said was not gonna be penalized. Just faking the foul/contact, which is not the case here, so give the guy a break.[/QUOTE]
I watched it live. It was pathetic..
There was no need for a flail and fall over. It's the same amount of contact anyone getting hit on a screen would recieve. He felt it, stopped, then overreacted..
I'm not saying bronzey flops all the time, he's no Blake griffin, but the times he does are shameless...
[QUOTE=coin24]I watched it live. It was pathetic..
There was no need for a flail and fall over. [B]It's the same amount of contact anyone getting hit on a screen would recieve[/B]. He felt it, stopped, then overreacted..
I'm not saying bronzey flops all the time, he's no Blake griffin, but the times he does are shameless...[/QUOTE]
Please... Do you really think so? :coleman:
[QUOTE=Salazaar]That was a pretty heavy shot with an arm he got right there, and it was completely unexpected. It wasn't a flop IMO, take a closer look at the gif/video.. It looks weird, as it was unexpected, but no flop, maybe a LITTLE exageration that the guy in the video said was not gonna be penalized. Just faking the foul/contact, which is not the case here, so give the guy a break.[/QUOTE]
That was more than a little exaggeration. Lebron is 7'4", and weighs 380 pounds of pure muscle. No way a man that size looks like he just got shot from a slight check in the back.
I don't know if Lebron plans on making Space Jam 2 or what, but he needs to work on his acting.
[QUOTE=coin24]Wasn't that a flagrant on Tyson?
I remember watching it like wtf:confusedshrug: :facepalm
Also, solid flail, arm flap, roll around, neck grab..
Stay classy Lebron..[/QUOTE]
I thought they did a no-call on it because Chandler was in position and LeBron didn't get help to let him know he was there. LeBron's fault, LeBron's flop.
[QUOTE=Meticode]I thought they did a no-call on it because Chandler was in position and LeBron didn't get help to let him know he was there. LeBron's fault, LeBron's flop.[/QUOTE]
No. The original call was a Flagrant 2, with Tyson ejected from the game. Then they replayed it, and realized how much Lebron flopped, and took it down to a Flagrant 1.
At worst it should have been a regular foul, but in actuality it should have been a no call. Tyson wasn't moving, so you can't call moving pick. Lebron acted like he got shot with a 44 magnum, and the refs bought. That's specifically what the video is saying will be penalized from now on.
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]No. The original call was a Flagrant 2, with Tyson ejected from the game. Then they replayed it, and realized how much Lebron flopped, and took it down to a Flagrant 1.
At worst it should have been a regular foul, but in actuality it should have been a no call. Tyson wasn't moving, so you can't call moving pick. Lebron acted like he got shot with a 44 magnum, and the refs bought. That's specifically what the video is saying will be penalized from now on.[/QUOTE]
What the hell are you talking about that Chandler isn't moving? He's moving forward the whole time. Not only it is a moving pick, it's also a hit. LeBron probably embellished the contact a little but you can bet his neck was hurting.
it makes no sense to fall to the ground like a damn ho
[QUOTE=The Chosen One]What the hell are you talking about that Chandler isn't moving? He's moving forward the whole time. Not only it is a moving pick, it's also a hit. LeBron probably embellished the contact a little but you can bet his neck was hurting.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zYBgMzX7V4[/url]
Watch it again, and watch JVG go off with "what kind of league are we becoming".
That's not a moving pick either. He wasn't shuffling around for position.
While I would agree that flopping had gotten carried away, I'm a little worried about how this new policy is going to be enforced. There is already so much subjectivity present in the officiating. It's one thing to clearly see a flop after watching a video replayed from multiple angles. It's another to try and catch it in real time.
[QUOTE=Salazaar]Please... Do you really think so? :coleman:[/QUOTE]
Ever actually played sport?
Boxing out, screens etc you will cop a hit.. That was a small one on Lebron, and he flopped hard after it for the call..
Why defend it so hard??
[quote=jlip]While I would agree that flopping had gotten carried away, I'm a little worried about how this new policy is going to be enforced. There is already so much subjectivity present in the officiating. It's one thing to clearly see a flop after watching a video replayed from multiple angles. It's another to try and catch it in real time.[/quote]They aren't going to do it in real time. From my understanding it's going to be fines issued after games from replays.
[QUOTE=Rockets(T-mac)]They aren't going to do it in real time. From my understanding it's going to be fines issued after games from replays.[/QUOTE]
And hopefully the NBA should publicly release those fines (no reason they shouldn't) and the biggest pundits be ridiculed is social media.
Seriously, that and Stephen Jackson might be the only thing good to come out of twitterverse from the NBA
I love that they are trying to reduce flopping, but there is a lot of gray area in those interpretations.
[QUOTE=Sarcastic][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zYBgMzX7V4[/url]
Watch it again, and watch JVG go off with "what kind of league are we becoming".
That's not a moving pick either. He wasn't shuffling around for position.[/QUOTE]
Since when are JVG's opinions respectable? They're ludicrous most of the time, actually.
[QUOTE=coin24]Ever actually played sport?
Boxing out, screens etc you will cop a hit.. That was a small one on Lebron, and he flopped hard after it for the call..
Why defend it so hard??[/QUOTE]
Actually, my whole life.
I'm just trying to say that this situation shouldn't be put in the video as an example of flopping, as you all suggest. There's no question it was a foul on Chandler and Lebron kind of exaggerated, but as explained in the vid, flopping only occurs when a player is trying to fake contact and trick the officials into calling a foul that didn't happen. But when the foul really takes place and the fouled player exaggerates the contact, it's not considered a flop by the league.
[QUOTE=Salazaar]Since when are JVG's opinions respectable? They're ludicrous most of the time, actually.
Actually, my whole life.
I'm just trying to say that this situation shouldn't be put in the video as an example of flopping, as you all suggest. There's no question it was a foul on Chandler and Lebron kind of exaggerated, but as explained in the vid, flopping only occurs when a player is trying to fake contact and trick the officials into calling a foul that didn't happen. But when the foul really takes place and the fouled player exaggerates the contact, it's not considered a flop by the league.[/QUOTE]
Sorry. it was a terrible flop. He takes the contact from Chandler, and then decides to put on his show. Guys in the post bump each other harder than that constantly.. it's called maintaining/fighting for position. I absolutely hate that people have stooped to "selling contact" rather than just fighting to play good defense. so sad.
More flop gifs MOAR
[QUOTE=lakerspng]Sorry. it was a terrible flop. He takes the contact from Chandler, and then decides to put on his show. Guys in the post bump each other harder than that constantly.. it's called maintaining/fighting for position. I absolutely hate that people have stooped to "selling contact" rather than just fighting to play good defense. so sad.[/QUOTE]
Don't you really see the difference between a situation when 2 players are engaged in a physical battle for position in the post and a situation when a player is running and suddenly takes a hard, UNEXPECTED hit from behind to his neck, with an elbow/forearm/whatever it was and is then grounded by the rest of Chandler's body? Sure, LBJ is strong as phuck but every human is extremely vulnerable to such hits when they don't expect it.
[QUOTE=Salazaar]Don't you really see the difference between a situation when 2 players are engaged in a physical battle for position in the post and a situation when a player is running and suddenly takes a hard, UNEXPECTED hit from behind to his neck, with an elbow/forearm/whatever it was and is then grounded by the rest of Chandler's body? Sure, LBJ is strong as phuck but every human is extremely vulnerable to such hits when they don't expect it.[/QUOTE]
No bra. Even if there was legit contact, lebron tried to sell more than it really was. If it was a foul or not from tyson is another question, but this is really a lebron flop.
About time really
[QUOTE=bdreason]I love that they are trying to reduce flopping, but there is a lot of gray area in those interpretations.[/QUOTE]
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