[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT]You keep posting passes that Bird did in his sleep tbh.[/quote]
lebron also does these in his sleep
[quote]Not hating and those were really good passes but Larry did better stuff on the regular.
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prove it:coleman:
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[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT]You keep posting passes that Bird did in his sleep tbh.[/quote]
lebron also does these in his sleep
[quote]Not hating and those were really good passes but Larry did better stuff on the regular.
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prove it:coleman:
[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT]You keep posting passes that Bird did in his sleep tbh. Not hating and those were really good passes but Larry did better stuff on the regular.
[B]That 2nd pass Lebron was lucky that it didn't got intercepted[/B], and KD had to catch it at his feet.[/QUOTE]
This applies to the half of Bird's passes as well. As I said, there is reason you won't see the hot potato basketball of Pistol Pete and Larry Bird in today's league.
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]lebron also does these in his sleep
prove it:coleman:[/QUOTE]
Nothing to be proved, Bird's regular passes/assists would be career passes/assists for Lebron. Lebron's a great passer but Bird's better, simple as that, not saying it's far, by any means, but it's clear to tell (for those who've watched enough from both and know their basketball).
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Go watch full games with Bird playing, or extensive highlights...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhnRtgBGMl4[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o66NdFDHEQ[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gqDadqF3Ns[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFNQoY8RFk[/url]
Like 40 minutes of footage right there, and from a guy who played 30 years ago. Pretty much tops everything Lebron has ever done, overall.
Again... Bird had higher IQ, it was like he was watching the game from the first row as opposed to actually being on the court playing, he knew where his teammates were going to be as opposed to where they are for Lebron, Larry could throw it with more precision while using strength and length, he could work the ball better and had more ways to find the open man, he was better with the left-hand, Bird didn't need to be flashy for the **** of it or try too hard like Lebron looking away after the assist is made, Larry made it flashy because it was necessary and the only way to hit the open man, and he didn't need to put people out of their roles (like turning Bosh into a 3pt shooter), he didn't need to over-handle the ball or even being the main ball-handler to make his impact felt as far as playmaking, he didn't need like 3 3pt shooters on the floor to dish and drive (and Lebron always draws double teams), to just dribble and pass to the side or to bail him out at the last minute, and Bird made passes to more crowded areas.
Touch passes in every single way, every trick in the book, flashy but necessary stuff, long passes, off the dribble, jump-passes, setting plays, finding cutters, hitting shooters, off of picks, to the paint, on the break, posting up, dish-n-drive... You name it, Larry was the better passer.
[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]This applies to the half of Bird's passes as well. As I said, there is reason you won't see the hot potato basketball of Pistol Pete and Larry Bird in today's league.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/q3ohLtD.gif[/IMG]
[b]Heat vs. Raptors: LeBron James highlights - 30 points (2.3.13) [/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jb0-EQ1JUE[/url]
2:09 1 handed missle to Norris Cole:biggums:
1:33 1 handed underhand quick scoop pass to Bosh
1:23 the angle on that 2 handed bounce pass to the cutting Wade:eek:
With these two u are talking the two greatest SF's passers of all time. U could go either way. But u can't deny the FACT that Lebron has PG handle and pace to his game. He can break down a defense better than Bird off the dribble AND can run the fast break better. I feel Bird has as good of passing vision as anybody. But PG's like Magic, Stockton, Isiah, CP3, Nash or SF's like Lebron can do what Bird does or damn close AND can break a D better down better than Bird.
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332][img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2598889/lemvpgoathof.gif[/img]
[img]http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/501/968/LeBronBouncePass_original.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
NONE AS GD AS BIRD
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332][b]Heat vs. Raptors: LeBron James highlights - 30 points (2.3.13) [/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jb0-EQ1JUE[/url]
2:09 1 handed missle to Norris Cole:biggums:
1:33 1 handed underhand quick scoop pass to Bosh
1:23 the angle on that 2 handed bounce pass to the cutting Wade:eek:[/QUOTE]
NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MAGIC BIRD
Lebron in the Pistons/Heat preseason game the other day dropping dymes:biggums:
[b]Chris Bosh Full Highlights NBA PS 2013.10.10 at Pistons - 28 Pts[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsofTMLA2Lg[/url]
: 06 look away 1 handed flinger
:14 2 handed bounce for the trailing Bosh
:41 behind the back bounce pass
1:50 left handed bullet to Bosh off the dribble
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]Lebron in the Pistons/Heat preseason game the other day dropping dymes:biggums:
[b]Chris Bosh Full Highlights NBA PS 2013.10.10 at Pistons - 28 Pts[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsofTMLA2Lg[/url]
: 06 look away 1 handed flinger
:14 2 handed bounce for the trailing Bosh
:41 behind the back bounce pass
1:50 left handed bullet to Bosh off the dribble[/QUOTE]
lol that first pass was... nice...
[QUOTE=bizil]With these two u are talking the two greatest SF's passers of all time. U could go either way. But u can't deny the FACT that Lebron has PG handle and pace to his game. He can break down a defense better than Bird off the dribble AND can run the fast break better. I feel Bird has as good of passing vision as anybody. But PG's like Magic, Stockton, Isiah, CP3, Nash or SF's like Lebron can do what Bird does or damn close AND can break a D better down better than Bird.[/QUOTE]
And yet despite the fact that Bird, unlike Lebron, wasn't a de-facto PG he still put up comparable assist numbers.
[QUOTE=LeBird]And yet despite the fact that Bird, unlike Lebron, wasn't a de-facto PG he still put up comparable assist numbers.[/QUOTE]
What these Lebron stans fail to realize is that Bird didn't dominate the ball yet averaged the same apg as Lebron who routinely plays PG. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=LeBird]And yet despite the fact that Bird, unlike Lebron, wasn't a de-facto PG he still put up comparable assist numbers.[/QUOTE]
For starters, I concede that Bird's and Bron's vision are equal. I feel they are right at the top of non-PG's passers EVER! But LOOK AT WHO BIRD WAS PASSING TO IN HIS CAREER! I can counter your argument with that! Bird was passing to Mchale, Parish, Ainge, DJ, Walton, etc. Bird played on some of the most STACKED TEAMS OF ALL TIME! Lebron HASN'T had the luxury in his career. Bird was a point forward who u can still run an offense through. For me it's not about assists numbers with Bird and Bron anyway. Because I feel their vision is equal. THE POINT COMES DOWN TO A MATTER OF TASTE! I feel Bron has PG handle, pace, and can run a better fast break. Bron is arguably the best slasher and most athletic player of all time. With sick passing skills. I feel this makes Bron THE MORE VERSATILE PASSER OVER BIRD!
These are the reasons that your argument is a mute point buddy! Bird touched the ball plenty of times on Boston. Wanna know why! Because Bird was ALWAYS THE BEST PASSER ON HIS TEAMS! But the difference is Bird was an awesome stationary passer and SUDDEN PASSER! Bron can do that AND BREAK DOWN A DEFENSE WITH HANDLES AS GOOD AS ANYBODY. But Bird was gonna touch the rock PLENTY OF TIMES ANYWAY BECAUSE OF HIS SKILLS! So he was gonna MAKE THE RIGHT BASKETBALL PLAY ANYWAY! Hell Wilt led the league in assists one year. So assist numbers are very important. But typically, guys with great handles and pace in their games can hurt with the pass more ways than guys like Wilt and Bird. Who aren't suited to be point guards. Even though Bird has a good a vision as anybody. U HAVE TO FACTOR ABILITY TO BREAK DOWN DEFENSES AND RUN FAST BREAKS WHEN IT COMES TO PASSING!
When it comes to guys who have equal vision, it comes down to a matter of taste. For me, Bron puts MORE PRESSURE on the defense with his passing than Bird. It's similar to Magic over Bird in terms of passing. There's a reason why MOST OF THE GREAT PASSERS OF ALL TIME ARE PG's (Magic, Cousy, Big O, Isiah, Nash, Stockton, CP3, Rondo, Tiny, Mark Jackson). Or guys capable of playing PG (Bron, Pippen, MJ). Bird is the exception to the rule I admit and is one of the truly great passers of all time though.
[QUOTE=Asukal]What these Lebron stans fail to realize is that Bird didn't dominate the ball yet averaged the same apg as Lebron who routinely plays PG. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Them touch passes :bowdown:
Its funny. I'm going to guess, and be quite generous in saying that maybe 10% has gone out of their way to watch a whole Larry Bird game, or was around at the time to watch his games, yet nearly everyone on the board can give us an expert analysis on how he was a better passer than Lebron.
lol...
[QUOTE=LeBird]And yet despite the fact that Bird, unlike Lebron, wasn't a de-facto PG he still put up comparable assist numbers.[/QUOTE]
most likely a combo of playing with better finishers (lebron missed a ton of assist on the Cavs because of the inability of people being able to finish around the basket outside of verajao) and a faster/more wide open pace.
[QUOTE=Asukal]What these Lebron stans fail to realize is that Bird didn't dominate the ball yet averaged the same apg as Lebron who routinely plays PG. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
But YET Bird touched the ball plenty of times though. Because he's was the BEST SF of all time. And everybody knew he was an epic passer. Which means he still played as a point forward caliber player. So he had plenty of opportunities to drop dimes. The main difference is Bird did most of his damage from a stationary position or a sudden pass. U can't fault Lebron because he has PG handles, is a freakish athlete, and as epic vision. It's a matter of taste because both had equal vision. U might prefer Bird to be your SF because he's a great shooter and passer in one. Which makes for epic floor spacing and execution. I might prefer Bron cause he's more versatile and CAN ACTUALLY PLAY THE PG POSITION FLAT OUT! Bird had the ball enough in his hands to drop six dimes a game. U gotta touch the ball alot from the SF-PF position to amass those kind of numbers. Don't make it seem like Bird didn't have that damn rock in his hands plenty of times. And once again, Bird ALSO had more HOF type guys to pass to than Lebron. Line up the rosters Bird played with compared to Bron's teams. I can counter your Bron dominance with the ball argument with that.
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]most likely a combo of playing with better finishers (lebron missed a ton of assist on the Cavs because of the inability of people being able to finish around the basket outside of verajao) and a faster/more wide open pace.[/QUOTE]
Right on the money! Bird played with McHale, Chief, Walton, Ainge, DJ, Tiny. U got five HOFers and an underrated All-Star. Bird had more talent to pass to than Bron typically. Once Bron got around HOF type guys like Wade and Bosh, u see that he's getting the rings like Bird used to.
[B]For the people talking about Bird playing with more talent around, just 3 things:
-You've mentioned McHale (who did most of his work in the post "by himself" though, and only started to play over 30 mpg in 1984), Parish (said once that at least 5000 of his points should be "credited" to Bird), Walton (only played for one season with the Celtics and although good was not remotely close to the same), Tiny (after a ruptured achilles and a torn one, old, as a shell with the Celtics), DJ (past his peak, last 3/4 prime years with the Celtics), Ainge (3 prime years with the Celtics)... In 1986 when McHale was injured, Bird put up like 6 triple-doubles in a month, for example. And with this I'm not denying that Bird played with better players at the start of their careers (although, don't forget, Bird improved the Celtics by 32 wins with the same roster, no Parish or McHale yet, 80s had more stacked teams to go against, and he made a lot of players what they were lets say, turning some into HoF'ers).
Well, the majority of those guys there worked inside, or, say, the guys that were scoring the most. Bird had to pass to more crowded areas to get them easy buckets, also considering that, on the regular, the paint and near areas were more crowded back then.
-Lets forget to mention that Lebron played with way more/better 3pt shooters, across his career, than Bird, players like Mo Williams, Ray-Ray, Boobie Gibson, Battier, Szczerbiak, Mike Miller, Damon Jones, Chalmers..... Those guys help to space the floor and clear more the inside and surroundings making it easy to find the open man there, and they are pretty much always waiting behind the line, also making it easy to drive-and-dish, especially for a player like Lebron who demands double teams and can/is willing to pass.
At his best, the only legit 3pt threat Bird had around was Ainge, and that's for like 3 years.
Current "rules" also help with some of the above.
And Lebron is pretty much always his team's PG, Bird was getting pretty much the same number of assists without being the main ball-handler and with lower USG%. And you want to mention pace (like 10% higher only though), point is null: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po1M--HaINA[/url]
-Why didn't Lebron's passing numbers went up after he joined Wade, Bosh and so on? In fact, they weren't as high as in his Cleveland days.[/B]
Lberon off the dribble pass
[b]LeBron dish for Melo Three [/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SyjG2buzFs[/url]
:coleman:
[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT][B]For the people talking about Bird playing with more talent around, just 3 things:
-You've mentioned McHale (who did most of his work in the post "by himself" though, and only started to play over 30 mpg in 1984), Parish (said once that at least 5000 of his points should be "credited" to Bird), Walton (only played for one season with the Celtics and although good was not remotely close to the same), Tiny (after a ruptured achilles and a torn one, old, as a shell with the Celtics), DJ (past his peak, last 3/4 prime years with the Celtics), Ainge (3 prime years with the Celtics)... In 1986 when McHale was injured, Bird put up like 6 triple-doubles in a month, for example. And with this I'm not denying that Bird played with better players at the start of their careers (although, don't forget, Bird improved the Celtics by 32 wins with the same roster, no Parish or McHale yet, 80s had more stacked teams to go against, and he made a lot of players what they were lets say, turning some into HoF'ers).
Well, the majority of those guys there worked inside, or, say, the guys that were scoring the most. Bird had to pass to more crowded areas to get them easy buckets, also considering that, on the regular, the paint and near areas were more crowded back then.
-Lets forget to mention that Lebron played with way more/better 3pt shooters, across his career, than Bird, players like Mo Williams, Ray-Ray, Boobie Gibson, Battier, Szczerbiak, Mike Miller, Damon Jones, Chalmers..... Those guys help to space the floor and clear more the inside and surroundings making it easy to find the open man there, and they are pretty much always waiting behind the line, also making it easy to drive-and-dish, especially for a player like Lebron who demands double teams and can/is willing to pass.
At his best, the only legit 3pt threat Bird had around was Ainge, and that's for like 3 years.
Current "rules" also help with some of the above.
And Lebron is pretty much always his team's PG, Bird was getting pretty much the same number of assists without being the main ball-handler and with lower USG%. And you want to mention pace (like 10% higher only though), point is null: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po1M--HaINA[/url]
-Why didn't Lebron's passing numbers went up after he joined Wade, Bosh and so on? In fact, they weren't as high as in his Cleveland days.[/B][/QUOTE]
U make good points. But Bird STILL TOUCHED THE ROCK ENOUGH FOR A SF-PF to average all of those assists. Bird was still the best passer on his team most of the time. Other than the years he played with Tiny possibly. So as I've stated in this post, its a matter of taste. I don't wanna hear that Lebron dominated the ball because he played PG or de facto PG. Bird was so great at passing he was considered a point forward. So it's a matter of taste. Bird touched the ball plenty enough to dominate a game passing. Just like Lebron. They just did it in a different fashion.
And IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE with Bird playing with those great HOFers. Teams couldn't just load up on Bird WITHOUT PAYING THE PRICE! When u loaded up on Bron all those years, who did Bron have other than Bosh and Wade? Sure Bron had shooters. But guys like Parish, McHale, and Walton played closer to the hoop. Which means MORE HIGHER PERCENTAGE OPPORTUNITIES!! And Bron could make those Bird type of passes too into tight areas. But could Bird dominate OFF THE DRIBBLE the way Bron does. HELL NO!! It's a matter of taste once again because their vision is equal in my book. For me, give me the more versatile passer in Lebron. But I'm not gonna argue too hard if one thinks Bird. But DON'T give me that Lebron plays like a PG so he dominates the ball shit! Bird touched the ball plenty of times as well to do the damage he did. If the vision is equal, it's PERFECTLY LOGICAL for me to prefer Bron becasue he's a MORE VERSATILE PASSER! It's not simply about Bron dominating the ball. It COMES DOWN TO LEBRON'S PASSING SKILLSET!!!
Yall see that sick nolooker Lebron hit Birdman with towards the end of the 2nd qtr tonight vs the Bulls?:eek: Birdman got fouled on the play so no assist:coleman:
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]Yall see that sick nolooker Lebron hit Birdman with towards the end of the 2nd qtr tonight vs the Bulls?:eek: Birdman got fouled on the play so no assist:coleman:[/QUOTE]
Very nice. Birdman lost the ball or got fouled. I couldn't see well enough, but it was a sick pass. He had a few really nice passes last night.
His more "basic" pass to Birdman fooled the hell out of Butler:oldlol: Butler thought that pass was going to Ray Allen for the 3.
[b]LeBron's SPECTACULAR No-Look Feed to Birdman[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTBy3Mg1ws4[/url]
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]His more "basic" pass to Birdman fooled the hell out of Butler:oldlol: Butler thought that pass was going to Ray Allen for the 3.
[b]LeBron's SPECTACULAR No-Look Feed to Birdman[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTBy3Mg1ws4[/url][/QUOTE]
I actually thought his bounce pass to Wade through traffic in the first half was better.
[QUOTE=jlip]I actually thought his bounce pass to Wade through traffic in the first half was better.[/QUOTE]
agreed
..I ran across this gem with lebron and Iverson
[b]LeBron James: Allen Iverson is 'true warrior' *AI & LBJ Connections in NBA All Star 2005 - YouTube[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOqXWnEYYWI[/url]
@ :11 sec in lebron does a back handed bounce pass:biggums:
[img]http://s7.postimg.org/ga90t4hzd/lebron_passing.gif[/img]
Lebron doing basic passes last night:coleman:
[img]http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/131220-jamespass.gif[/img]
[img]http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/131220-jamespass2.gif[/img]
[img]http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/131220-jamespass3.gif[/img]
LBJ on his basic dyme drops
[img]https://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/835579408.gif[/img]
[img]http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/lebronpass.gif[/img]
[img]http://media.giphy.com/media/5w9YUwcMoo2xW/giphy.gif[/img]
[img]http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/lebronpasswow_1.gif[/img]
[img]http://oi43.tinypic.com/if7fk3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/LeBron-James-Behind-the-Back-Pass-to-Ray-Allen-Lay-Up.gif[/img]
[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2746069/lepass3.gif[/img]
[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1195170/bronpass.gif[/img]
[img]http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/3930559/lepasstobattier.gif[/img]
**** LeShit, that's the only overrated piece of shitty ass player I hate.. Why?
1. After a huge loss against the Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference Final, he didn't shake hands to the winning team and bitch out like a crybaby and yet fans still call him "King James?" More like Queen James.
2. A sophomore college kid dunk over LeShit James, and nike confiscated a ****ing tape of LeShit getting dunk over by a Xavier college boy.
3. No kids should look up to LeShit as a role model.
[QUOTE=iTare]**** LeShit, that's the only overrated piece of shitty ass player I hate.. Why?
1. After a huge loss against the Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference Final, he didn't shake hands to the winning team and bitch out like a crybaby and yet fans still call him "King James?" More like Queen James.
2. A sophomore college kid dunk over LeShit James, and nike confiscated a ****ing tape of LeShit getting dunk over by a Xavier college boy.
3. No kids should look up to LeShit as a role model.[/QUOTE]
Well said:applause: .
[QUOTE=iTare]**** LeShit, that's the only overrated piece of shitty ass player I hate.. Why?
1. After a huge loss against the Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference Final, he didn't shake hands to the winning team and bitch out like a crybaby and yet fans still call him "King James?" More like Queen James.
2. A sophomore college kid dunk over LeShit James, and nike confiscated a ****ing tape of LeShit getting dunk over by a Xavier college boy.
3. No kids should look up to LeShit as a role model.[/QUOTE]
What the **** did you just ****ing say about me, you little bitch? I
[img]http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/4157155/lepasss.gif[/img]
:lebronamazed:
[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]What the **** did you just ****ing say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ****ing words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, ****er. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re ****ing dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ****ing tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re ****ing dead, kiddo.[/QUOTE]
Outrageous post (from reddit?) I could just imagine the scrawny, pencil-necked virgin getting his rocks off as he posted this. :oldlol:
They are easily the best non-PG passers ever, in terms of piling up assists or simply raw passing skills/vision...... then you can debate all you want...
In the department raw passing skills & vision both of them are right up there as one of the 10 best i ever seen in that department imo.
That list for me goes something like: (no order, but if there was, Magic sure would start 1st)
Kidd
Stockton (not flashy, but was a fundamental sniper with his dimes)
Nash
Magic
Maravich
Bird
Lebron
J-Will
.....then i dont know, Isiah? Cp3?
There is a difference between "Top Passer" & "Top Assist man"....
Leading the league in assists isnt necessarily a guy with the best passing skills/vision, but a guy with good/great passing/vision who just so happens to be a 24-7 pass-first player starting PG playing 40 mpg with a correct system & supporting cast.... the guy who has the best passing skills/vision is the guy who is portraying the most creative/most difficult passes with success & in big magnitude.... you dont have to lead the league in assists to do that and neither do you have to play PG.....
Its like Shaq leading the league PPG.... he is the best scorer technically.... but does he have the best scoring arsenal? Thats what raw passing skills is when compared to assists..... to many like to think assists = result of passing skills....
Thats wrong, for example i think today (with Nash deteriorating) Lebron easily possess the best passing skills/vision in the league.... Rubio, Ginobili, Cp3, Rondo, Deron etc. follow..... come on, you ever seen CP3 do just any of those crazy passes Lebron makes? CP3 does by majority just lobs & pick-n-roll/paint dropoffs, simple, fundamental..... thats great, he gets alot of assists, but he is no circus passer exactly.... I think Lebron, Ricky Rubio & Ginobili portray the best creativity & difficulty in that department today....
[QUOTE=iTare]**** LeShit, that's the only overrated piece of shitty ass player I hate.. Why?
1. After a huge loss against the Orlando Magic in the Eastern Conference Final, he didn't shake hands to the winning team and bitch out like a crybaby and yet fans still call him "King James?" More like Queen James.
2. A sophomore college kid dunk over LeShit James, and nike confiscated a ****ing tape of LeShit getting dunk over by a Xavier college boy.
3. No kids should look up to LeShit as a role model.[/QUOTE]
I'm warning you now to stop spamming the board with this same post. I've seen it in multiple threads. We get the idea. Thanks.
I don't know anyone old enough to have seen Bird play that thinks Lebron is the better passer. It's not really something you can really get from watching old footage or highlights, as both guys are good enough passers to basically be capable of anything. There isn't any one pass either guy could make that the other was incapable of, but it's the frequency that sets them apart in my mind.
Best 2 passing SFs I've ever seen, but I've gotta give Bird the nod.
As others have said, Lebron is the better point guard.
In terms of a stationary position or off one dribble in the half court, Bird is AS GOOD OF A PASSER as anybody! The difference between Bird and Bron is the fact that Bron has PG type pace and handles in his game. U can't go wrong either way. I do think on both sides of the floor, that Bron is the most versatile player ever. And from a fundamental-techincal level on offense, Bird is the best player of all time. What's makes Lebron unique is that we get to see what players such as Magic and even Bird to an extent would look like with freak athletic ability. Those three have a size and versatility that the other perimeter players can't match. They are the bridge between perimeter players and the power positions.
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]I remember a thread on here comparing the passing skills between the two with many arguing that Bird made passes that lebron couldn't do. I ran across this video
[b]Can LeBron make the same kind of passes as Larry Bird? [/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3EWmeFrSNM[/url]
[i]The above is indisputable evidence that Larry Bird is a superior passer to LeBron James. Watch all these passes Larry Bird pulls off that LeBron could never dream of duplicating. This video is simply the nail in the coffin.[/i]
This actually a troll video (notice the Ether beat? lol ) answering those who think along those lines[/QUOTE]
impossible :no:
[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]What the **** did you just ****ing say about me, you little bitch? I