I really can't wait until the season starts back up. 8 ****ing pages over an inch or two.
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I really can't wait until the season starts back up. 8 ****ing pages over an inch or two.
[QUOTE=VeeCee15]Vince Carter is not 6'5 without shoes
he is like 6.'4.5 without shoes.
He is a bit shorter than Jordan[/QUOTE]
VC is not shorter than Jordan. He's about 1/2 an inch taller than Jordan and Kobe.
lol at this threads.. in the first few post ppl are arguing about 1 to 2 inches.. by the 8th page, ppl are arguing about 1/2 - 3/4 inches.. i guess by tomorrow, ppl will be arguing kobe is 6' 4.0000000001 inches and jordan is 6'4.000000003 inches..
[QUOTE=VeeCee15]Vince Carter is not 6'5 without shoes
he is like 6.'4.5 without shoes.
He is a bit shorter than Jordan[/QUOTE]
Vince measured 6'5 1/2" without shoes.
[URL="http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/measurements.php?year=1998&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=1"]http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/measurements.php?year=1998&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=1[/URL]
[URL="http://thehrr.com/Samples/june'98.pdf"]http://thehrr.com/Samples/june'98.pdf[/URL]
loool is this a ****ing joke?
Who gives a flying **** if he's 6'4'', 6'10''....who ****ing cares.
I don't understand the purpose of this thread, or its relevance to any of these stars' success in this league.
[QUOTE=Korki Buchek]It's obvious that Kobe is clearly two inches taller than both Wade and Kidd on that Team USA pic. So either Kidd and Wade are in reality 6'2, or their shoes have much thinner soles than Kobe's, or that pic is photoshopped.[/QUOTE]
The pictures Lebron23 posted of Kobe and Wade are much better. It's Wade and Kobe side by side with good posture and they look to be almost indenticle heights. However there can be many little things to throw that off when judging for example what time the people got up(you shrink during the day, your true height is when you wake up out of bed and you continue to shrink very slowly all day, you can lose about 0.5-0.75 inches in a day, the soles of the shoes as you mentioned and very subtle posture things. Even though he looks 6-4 flat in the good angle pictures with Wade in general he looks closer to 6-5 and someitmes taller so i'd say the 6-4 3/4 measurement sounds correct.
[QUOTE]Kobe homers just want people to think that Kobe is shorter so that it looks more impressive what he's doing on the court. It goes both ways, sometimes fans of a player want people to think that he's taller than he really is to make him look more impressive. Like with Tracy McGrady, I've seen some of his fans claim that he really is 6'10, so that it looks more impressive that a big man like that can play the SG position.[/QUOTE]
I've seen that too. It's possible T-Mac grew to around 6'7" w/o shoes and 6'8"-6'9" w/ shoes but even with shoes 6'10" is absurd. That would put him around the same height as Dwight Howard and Amare Stoudemire.
[QUOTE=Korki Buchek]How the hell can it be better, let alone "much" better? The Team USA pic was practically MADE for showing the height difference between the players. And Kobe looks full two inches taller than Wade. Here's another pic:
[IMG]http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8736/81778383za1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Wade is slouching a lot while Kobe is standing as straight as possible. Isn't that obvious?
This is as accurate of a picture as you are going to find for judging Wade and Kobe's height.
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/73357840.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/73357841.jpg[/IMG]
Considering Wade measured 6-3 3/4 then 6-4 3/4 is accurate for Kobe.
[QUOTE]You can always find pictures from different angles to show some player is taller than another. Like on this one, Kobe looks taller than the 6'7 listed Caron Butler:
But that Team USA picture is as good as you can find of getting an indication of a player's true height. After seeing it, I think that the official NBA height listings are more accurate than I previously thought. They seem to fit perfectly with the Team USA pic.[/QUOTE]
I'm well aware of angles.
NBA listed heights really aren't reliable either.
Here's legit 7'1" Shaq next to then 7'0" listed Tim Duncan(Shaq is leaning)
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Shaq has 3-4 inches on Duncan easily.
Shaq next to 7'0" listed Hakeem Olajuwon
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/359255.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/1872785.jpg[/IMG]
O'Neal also has 3-4 inches on Olajuwon
Shaq next to 7'0" listed Patrick Ewing
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/72280376.jpg[/IMG]
Shaq easily has 3-4 inches on Ewing too(minus Ewing's hair).
The NBA listings are unreliable on both ends.
6'5" listed Desmond Mason measured 6'6" without shoes when he was drafted and 6'5" listed John Starks admitted to being 6'2" once. How the hell are 2 people 4 inches apart in height listed at the same height?
Then you have some guys who request to be listed shorter than they actually are. One well known example is Kevin Garnett who was 6'11" w/o shoes when he was drafted and admitted to growing to 6'11 3/4" several times yet he's listed 6'11"? KG thinks he'll have to play center or be expected to play like a center if he's listed 7 feet.
Bill Walton is another. Everyone who played against him swears he's a 7 foot, Walton was always slightly taller than Robert Parish as well but because Walton thought 7 feet was a freakish height he refused to be listed that height.
Kobe standing right next to Caron Butler
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/KobeCaron.jpg[/IMG]
Yes he's slouching but regardless he isn't taller than 6'5 1/4" Caron Butler even if he straightened up his posture a bit.
The heights I've heard for Kobe are.
6'4"(his claim)
6'4 3/4"(his wifes claimed measurement of him)
6'5 1/4"(His supposed FIBA measurement)
great
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Check the 1997 NBA Pre Draft Measurements Idiots.
[url]http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=&year=1997&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=[/url]
Next time use your brain instead of insulting me, and you are so stupid.
High Potential > YOU[/QUOTE]
T Mac grew since he enterred the league. I remember people reporting that after his growth spurt he was up to 6'8+. It's not rare to see 18 year olds continue growing an inch or sometimes even 2, so those pre-draft numbers are in no way conclusive to his current height.
The most accurate picture is the OLYMPIC MENS BASKETBALL PICTURE.
Kobe is clearly 2-3 inches taller than WADE.
So wade is either 6'1.5 if Kobe is 6'4. LOL
Lebron23 is a moron.
Kobe is like 195 cm. I stood very close to him and he was just a pinch taller than me and im 193 cm
[QUOTE=VeeCee15]The most accurate picture is the OLYMPIC MENS BASKETBALL PICTURE.
Kobe is clearly 2-3 inches taller than WADE.
So wade is either 6'1.5 if Kobe is 6'4. LOL
Lebron23 is a moron.[/QUOTE]
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The Most accurate pictures are the one that VCMVP1551 posted in this thread, and you're still a piece of $hit.
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and Jeff ( Mr. Insidehoops ) also posted the NBA Draft measurements in this site, and if you don't believe it just GTFO..
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/chicago-camp-measurements.shtml[/url]
Please stop trolling in this site, and you're a very annoying gimmick account.
[QUOTE=VeeCee15]The most accurate picture is the OLYMPIC MENS BASKETBALL PICTURE.
Kobe is clearly 2-3 inches taller than WADE.
So wade is either 6'1.5 if Kobe is 6'4. LOL
Lebron23 is a moron.[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot look at the pictures of Kobe and Wade above where they both have good posture and are standing next to eachother without anyone in between them. Kobe is clearly no more than an inch taller than Wade.
Kobe is 6-4 3/4 and Wade is 6-3 3/4. Get over it.
From the man himself as well as his wife and another person who saw him in person and his wife who measured him.
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have you looked at the olympic picture?!!! That proves it. You can ALWAYS look shorter than you are..but when are u like 2+ inches taller than Wade in the olympic pic...how do u fake that?
ALSO the fuking pic of WADE/KOBE is bullcrap.
In one of them, legs are not showing, Wade is tippytoeing.
In the other one..it's a down - up angle which is MEANINGLESS.
U my sir..are a retard.
[QUOTE=VeeCee15]have you looked at the olympic picture?!!! That proves it. You can ALWAYS look shorter than you are..but when are u like 2+ inches taller than Wade in the olympic pic...how do u fake that?
ALSO the fuking pic of WADE/KOBE is bullcrap.
In one of them, legs are not showing, Wade is tippytoeing.
In the other one..it's a down - up angle which is MEANINGLESS.
U my sir..are a retard.[/QUOTE]
I heard that you are going to participate in the 2008 Special Olympics.
You're so facking annoying
You're a stupid son of a b1tch
You're repetitive
You don't provide any factual evidence
You're just trolling in this site
You my sir..are a 101 % retard.
and i would just put you back in my ignore lists.
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SMH@this.
[QUOTE=Korki Buchek]Which one do you mean? The one where their feet aren't showing or the one where the picture is taken with a camera angle from the bottom, providing all sorts of optical illusions? Once again, the team USA picture is [I]MADE[/I] to show the height difference between the players, you can see their bodies from top to bottom. What difference does it make how many players are standing between Kobe and Wade? You can still clearly see that Wade is two inches shorter than Kobe. I don't know if Kobe's official height of 6'6 is with or without shoes, but Kobe is two inches taller than Wade. If Kobe is 6'6 with shoes and 6'4 without, then Wade is 6'4 with shoes and 6'2 without. Any doubters of the official NBA height listings should see the team USA picture, because the height listings of the players on the picture fit perfectly with the factual evidence that can be seen on the picture. I can't find a single player on the picture whose official height doesn't seem to fit his height on the picture. Other than maybe Chris Bosh, he looks taller than his listed 6'10, but that's with his hair, if he was bald, he would fit perfectly.[/QUOTE]
Bosh says he's 6'11" and measured 6-10 1/4 w/o shoes when he was drafted and the team USA picture is not very good. These type of pictures are better.
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/HowardandBosh.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Korki Buchek]Have you measured them? Kobe is officially listed at 6'6 and Wade is officially listed at 6'4. The team USA picture backs this up 100%, for Kobe, Wade and every other player on the picture. Get over it.[/QUOTE]
The doctors hired by the NBA at the 2003 pre-draft camp measured Wade and Kobe's wife measured him. Both were measured and those measurements are more reliable than your ridiculous estimates.
The team USA picture doesn't back up sh*t
[QUOTE=VeeCee15]have you looked at the olympic picture?!!! That proves it. You can ALWAYS look shorter than you are..but when are u like 2+ inches taller than Wade in the olympic pic...how do u fake that?[/QUOTE]
:roll: You say you can always look shorter than you are yet you say Wade can't look shorter than he is.
[QUOTE=VeeCee15]ALSO the fuking pic of WADE/KOBE is bullcrap.
In one of them, legs are not showing, Wade is tippytoeing.
In the other one..it's a down - up angle which is MEANINGLESS.
U my sir..are a retard.[/QUOTE]
So you assume Wade is tip toeing? You base that on what? If Wade wanted to be so much taller than 6-4 then he'd request to be listed atleast at his in shoes height of 6-5. Why the hell would Wade tip toe? :roll: That's the worst explanation ever. Kobe is 6-4 3/4 without shoes. GTFO
[QUOTE=Lebron23]I heard that you are going to participate in the 2008 Special Olympics.
You're so facking annoying
You're a stupid son of a b1tch
You're repetitive
You don't provide any factual evidence
You're just trolling in this site
You my sir..are a 101 % retard.
and i would just put you back in my ignore lists.
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:roll: :roll:
Lebron23 TKOing dudes
[QUOTE=Korki Buchek]
You can always find pictures from different angles to show some player is taller than another. Like on this one, Kobe looks taller than the 6'7 listed Caron Butler:
[IMG]http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9098/73365113dg3.jpg[/IMG]
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Caron is behind Kobe, of course the person standing in front of someone will look taller, especially if in a picture. lol :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Lebron23]I heard that you are going to participate in the 2008 Special Olympics.
You're so facking annoying
You're a stupid son of a b1tch
You're repetitive
You don't provide any factual evidence
You're just trolling in this site
You my sir..are a 101 % retard.
and i would just put you back in my ignore lists.
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you're a Hypocrite.
What's next? It's all a conspiracy, Kobe, his wife and the person who met Kobe are all on a mission to say Kobe's shorter than his listed height.
Magic Johnson(about 6-7) is more than 2 inches taller.
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/KobeMagicTMac.jpg[/IMG]
Kobe and 6-6 1/2 Devean George makes Kobe look 6-4 3/4....AGAIN
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/KobeGeorge2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/KobeGeorge.jpg[/IMG]
Kobe and 6-11 Kwame Brown
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/KobeKwame.jpg[/IMG]
Kobe's head comes just up to Kwame Brown's nose. That's more than 6 inches! That's also assuming the Wizards report from a few years ago that Brown grew from 6-10 w/o shoes, 6-11.5 w/o shoes(pre-draft measurement) to 6-11 w/o shoes and 7-0.5 w/o shoes. If that report was false then kobe is struggling at 6-4.
Kobe is 4-5 inches shorter than lamar odom who I heard is about 6-9
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/Kobe%20Bryant%20and%20Lamar%20Odom/KobeOdom.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/Kobe%20Bryant%20and%20Lamar%20Odom/KobeOdom2.jpg[/IMG]
This is a funny picture. Lamar Odom is slouching to the point where it looks like he has no neck and Kobe is pointing his head as high as it can go yet he is still 4 inches shorter than Odom.
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/Kobe%20Bryant%20and%20Lamar%20Odom/KobeOdom4.jpg[/IMG]
Kobe is shorter than 6'5 1/2" measured Sasha Vujacic
[IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/KobeSasha.jpg[/IMG]
Kobe is 3-4 inches shorter than 6'8" Ronny Turiaf
[IMG][IMG]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/KobeRonny.jpg[/IMG][/IMG]
You want me to keep going? Kobe is 6-4 3/4 without shoes making him about 6-6 with shoes meaning he chooses to be listed at his in shoes height. What's hard to believe about that?
[QUOTE=Korki Buchek]Funny, I never heard that. I always heard that Lamar is in fact taller than his official height of 6'10. I heard that he's 6'11.[/QUOTE]
If he's 6-9 1/4 without shoes like I've heard then that puts him about 6-10 1/2 or 6-10 3/4 with shoes so if you are going by in shoes heights then yes he could be considered 6-11.
[QUOTE]When it's all said and done, any picture you can find that indicates that Kobe is shorter than his official height of 6'6, I can find another that indicates that the official listing of 6'6 is accurate, or even some that make him look taller than 6'6. But in the end, his official height IS 6'6 and there are like 10 other players on the Team USA pic whose official height fits with how tall they look next to each other on the picture, and Kobe looks like 6'6 compared to the other players on the picture.[/QUOTE]
Go ahead, find as many good angle pictures as I have that show him to be that height.
[QUOTE]If Kobe is not 6'6, but like you say is 6'4, how did he get the official height of 6'6? Did the NBA officials just guess, or what???[/QUOTE]
I said he's probably 6-4 3/4 without shoes. Most shoes give 1 1/4 inches so that would put him exactly 6-6 in shoes. So they probably just list him at his in shoes height like a lot of other players.
As for editing the Dwight Howard/Chris Bosh picture. You moved Howard up, of course he'll look taller. Standing next to eachother Bosh looks his claimed 6-11 while Howard looks his claimed 6-9 1/2 w/o shoes.
this is the most openly gay superstar d1ck rider thread ive ever posted in in my life. I just vomited all over my neck.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]I heard that you are going to participate in the 2008 Special Olympics.
You're so facking annoying
You're a stupid son of a b1tch
You're repetitive
You don't provide any factual evidence
You're just trolling in this site
You my sir..are a 101 % retard.
and i would just put you back in my ignore lists.
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:oldlol: :applause: :roll: this topic is still going on?
:oldlol: @ this retarded ass topic. Dudes in here debating about players real height when they dont have shoes on? Seriously, who gives a flying fucc about a players official height while in socks? It's not like they play the game barefoot any ****in way. I'm 5'11 without shoes and about 6'0 and a 1/2 with shoes on, so i consider myself 6 feet tall when I'm in public since thats my height [b]IN PUBLIC[/b]. Same like these players, they may be 6 foot 4 and 3/4 or whatever once their in socks getting prepared for the game, but when they step out on that court, they're 6'6 [b]ON THE COURT[/b] and thats all that matters.
you guys are ****ing GAY
[QUOTE=HANNIBAL SMITH]:oldlol: @ this retarded ass topic. Dudes in here debating about players real height when they dont have shoes on? Seriously, who gives a flying fucc about a players official height while in socks? It's not like they play the game barefoot any ****in way. I'm 5'11 without shoes and about 6'0 and a 1/2 with shoes on, so i consider myself 6 feet tall when I'm in public since thats my height [b]IN PUBLIC[/b]. Same like these players, they may be 6 foot 4 and 3/4 or whatever once their in socks getting prepared for the game, but when they step out on that court, they're 6'6 [b]ON THE COURT[/b] and thats all that matters.[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot. I'm 5-7 3/4 and I walk down the street in shoes but I consider myself 5'9" walking down the street.
Someones actual height is their height as it has been measured without shoes, if they want to list height in shoes then they should specify that. What are they going to start weighing the players in shoes too?
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Hey guys, Manute clearly has 28.56 inches on Muggsy.
What, you can't see that?:confusedshrug: Yall need some glasses.
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I agree!
[QUOTE=VCMVP1551]You're an idiot. I'm 5-7 3/4 and I walk down the street in shoes but I consider myself 5'9" walking down the street.
Someones actual height is their height as it has been measured without shoes, if they want to list height in shoes then they should specify that. What are they going to start weighing the players in shoes too?[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: Shut the fucc up you punk ass b!tch. Is it really that serious son? All this hostility over height, my goodness you lame homie. If your 5'9 in shoes, then got dammit your 5'9 [b]IN THE PUBLIC EYE[/b].
You actually expect people and players to be specific with their height? lol I can see the pa announcers now,"[b]from lower merion high school, 6'4 and 3/4ths, standing at guard, no. 24, kobeeeeeeee brrrrrrryant[/b]" Get the fucc outta here man.
When the man steps out on that court is 6'6, and thats what he should be listed at, since that is his height on the basketball court and in public.
You're a f*cking moron if a person if 6'4" then they are 6'4" biologically. Whether or not they are wearing high heels or stilts it doesn't matter.:banghead:
I'm a Laker fan and while I originally thought he was around 6'6 I think it's obvious he's not. If anything, he's 6'4 and a 1/2 or 6'5. One reason he doesn't dominate like Michael Jordan did was because he has smaller hands and isn't as tall.
[QUOTE=HANNIBAL SMITH]:oldlol: Shut the fucc up you punk ass b!tch. Is it really that serious son? All this hostility over height, my goodness you lame homie. If your 5'9 in shoes, then got dammit your 5'9 [b]IN THE PUBLIC EYE[/b].[/QUOTE]
No I'm not. I've never heard an average person claim their height in shoes. That's usually a short guys way of trying to gain an extra inch.
Sylvester Stallone wears huge ass boots all the time, is he 6'1" in the public eye?
[QUOTE]You actually expect people and players to be specific with their height? lol I can see the pa announcers now,"[b]from lower merion high school, 6'4 and 3/4ths, standing at guard, no. 24, kobeeeeeeee brrrrrrryant[/b]" Get the fucc outta here man.[/QUOTE]
I don't expect people to be specific I expect them to round to the closest inch. Like Bosh measured 6-10 1/4 without shoes and is listed 6-10. Or some players actually are listed at their exact barefoot heights like Shaq and Kevin Durant.
[QUOTE]When the man steps out on that court is 6'6, and thats what he should be listed at, since that is his height on the basketball court and in public.[/QUOTE]
The man is about 6-5, David Stern even admitted the height with shoes sh*t is just for hype.
next they will be measuring how big his d1ck is
[QUOTE=VeeCee15]So many losers recently bringing up the fact that Kobe is 6'4 lol.[/QUOTE]
u got WAAAy too much time on ya hands amigo