Do any of you want religion/God to be true?

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]While DNA research is still fairly new, I'm fascinated by the fact that we can find nothing else like it here on Earth or begin to explain its origins.[/QUOTE]

we might not know the full story about DNA yet but we can definitely "begin to explain its origins"

[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/[/url]

[quote]The transition from the RNA to the DNA world was a major event in the history of life. The invention of DNA required the appearance of enzymatic activities for both synthesis of DNA precursors, retro-transcription of RNA templates and replication of singleand double-stranded DNA molecules. Recent data from comparative genomics, structural biology and traditional biochemistry have revealed that several of these enzymatic activities have been invented independently more than once, indicating that the transition from RNA to DNA genomes was more complex than previously thought. The distribution of the different protein families corresponding to these activities in the three domains of life (Archaea, Eukarya, and Bacteria) is puzzling. In many cases, Archaea and Eukarya contain the same version of these proteins, whereas Bacteria contain another version. However, in other cases, such as thymidylate synthases or type II DNA topoisomerases, the phylogenetic distributions of these proteins do not follow this simple pattern. Several hypotheses have been proposed to explain these observations, including independent invention of DNA and DNA replication proteins, ancient gene transfer and gene loss, and/or nonorthologous replacement. We review all of them here, with more emphasis on recent proposals suggesting that viruses have played a major role in the origin and evolution of the DNA replication proteins and possibly of DNA itself.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]I said earlier in this thread that the Bible is merely a history book on past events. I don't even own a Bible. Again, people are so quick to shoot down Christians since it's the dominant religion across the globe.

Forget Christianity and forget the Bible. [B]I'm more interested in how science can invariably prove the existence of a deity by using that same science to show that there are things on this Earth, in the universe, and within ourselves that cannot be scientifically explained. [/B] While DNA research is still fairly new, I'm fascinated by the fact that we can find nothing else like it here on Earth or begin to explain its origins.[/QUOTE]


We couldn't explain a lot of things. There are things that people believed we would never understand. Humans solve problems that have no apparent solution. If you just give up because you don't know the answer you get nowhere. Perhaps science will never solve that problem ("How did something come from nothing?"). It beats sitting around and saying, "I'm tired of thinking...god did it".

There is nothing wrong with saying, "I don't know". Pretending you know when you don't does nothing but feed the ego. Just because we feel there needs to be a purpose to the universe doesn't mean there is one.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]This is a good read on Creationism for those non-believers who at least have an open mind about the whole thing.

[url]http://www.icr.org/article/105/[/url][/QUOTE]
Unexplained =/= proof that god did it.

[QUOTE=Nowitness]Yes, they are. There are many reasons for it. Ranging from God being petty, not wanting to live in a George Orwell novel, not surrendering your mind to a book, refusing to be told who you can have sex with and how.[/QUOTE]


so you're fighting the idea of what others are telling you what/who God is and should be like.

you have insulted the bear in which I am dancing with.

Patrick Chewing, i thought you hated religion? Hell i thought you were even a racist.... doesnt make sense....

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Unexplained =/= proof that god did it.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=pauk]Patrick Chewing, i thought you hated religion? Hell i thought you were even a racist.... shit doesnt make sense.... :biggums:[/QUOTE]


Nein, nein. I'm a Christian and technically a minority in the United States.


A racist? Hardly. I offend equally. I do not like Islam.


I will make it my goal in life to convert you, Pauk. None of this fasting, no TV-watching, no sex for a month bullshit. You and I will eat, shit, f*ck (not each other) all we want. Come to my church, bro.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Nein, nein. I'm a Christian and technically a minority in the United States.


A racist? Hardly. I offend equally. I do not like Islam.


I will make it my goal in life to convert you, Pauk. None of this fasting, no TV-watching, no sex for a month bullshit. You and I will eat, shit, f*ck (not each other) all we want. Come to my church, bro.[/QUOTE]

Because you're part of a different denomination?

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Nein, nein. I'm a Christian and technically a minority in the United States.


A racist? Hardly. I offend equally. I do not like Islam.


I will make it my goal in life to convert you, Pauk. None of this fasting, no TV-watching, no sex for a month bullshit. You and I will eat, shit, f*ck (not each other) all we want. Come to my church, bro.[/QUOTE]

My mother is Christian, father a Muslim....... none of them were so religious, if they were i doubt they would be married... i myself am more agnostic, not a huge fan of any religion... but open to suggestion, proof.... until then i might aswell believe in Santa Clause...

What i believe in:

Peace & Benovelence (no matter what!), be kind, treat others like i want to be treated, take care of planet earth, Kumbaya and all that stuff.... and from there on, just live my life.... and when i die, if God does exist and decides to punish me for that.... then so be it, because i know i lived & behaved better than most of his "true followers"....

[QUOTE=pauk]My mother is Christian, father a Muslim....... none of them were so religious, if they were i doubt they would be married... i myself am more agnostic, not a huge fan of any religion... but open to suggestion, proof.... until then i might aswell believe in Santa Clause...

What i believe in:

Peace & Benovelence (no matter what!), be kind, treat others like i want to be treated, take care of planet earth, Kumbaya and all that stuff.... and from there on, just live my life.... and when i die, if God does exist and decides to punish me for that.... then so be it, because i know i lived & behaved better than most of his "true followers"....[/QUOTE]
:applause:

[QUOTE=pauk]My mother is Christian, father a Muslim....... none of them were so religious, if they were i doubt they would be married... i myself am more agnostic, not a huge fan of any religion... but open to suggestion, proof.... until then i might aswell believe in Santa Clause...

What i believe in:

[B]Peace & Benovelence (no matter what!), be kind, treat others like i want to be treated, take care of planet earth, Kumbaya and all that stuff.... and from there on, just live my life.... and when i die, if God does exist and decides to punish me for that.... then so be it, because i know i lived & behaved better than most of his "true followers"....[/B][/QUOTE]
:applause:

You know, you're alright pauk. I disagree with you at times (blaming Wade for 2011, and exagerrating the possessions in the 60s), but you seem like a good guy with a level head on your shoulders. Good shit. :cheers:

[QUOTE=Nowitness]Because you're part of a different denomination?[/QUOTE]


More Roman Catholic than anything, but I don't practice it. I know who I am with God and I'm a sinner just as much as the next guy.

As far as the minority, I was referring to me being Hispanic. Based on my beliefs here, most people probably think I'm a racist redneck from Alabama or some shit with just a middle-school education.

I used to be an atheist/non-believer with the same, "well you can't prove it" attitude. I remember eating at a restaurant and some friends of mine took out a Bible and wanted to have a serious talk with me about God and my belief system. I told them to get that book the hell away from me. Without going into too much detail, it took the death of a close family member to re-ignite my faith in God and Jesus Christ.

LMFAO at the dude quoting Einstein.

What kind of wannabe smart guy quotes an accomplished physicist to support their opinions on the infantility of those of Faith. Bro if you want to bolster your atheist agenda get on dat dere David Hume and Voltaire time.

Pauk no wonder I like you. You're the same breed of my childhood friend.

IMO, there's merit to..
Catholics to dislike:
Gluttony - Wastefulness...
Sloth - Actually not laziness.. rather a lack of passion for life.. being a miserable person with a rain cloud on your head havin dat crab in a bucket mentality
Lust - Unwavering desire.... STD's drained fapping
Pride - Hubris..
Wrath - Destructive rage which results in spiraling violence
Greed - Excessive desire at the expense of your brother's well being etc..
Envy - just an ugly trait on any human.. compersion much better.

Christian Agape Love.. Protestant Work Ethic... "Love thy neighbor"... Do as to others... helping orphanages and homeless...

I'm pretty sure Muslims believe in
forbidding alcohol because it fuks up your conscoiusness
forbidding pork because it carries disease in the desert
Ni'ah being the mos timportant facet of starting something.... Intention
Sakinah... the steps to make a peaceful family environment
the healthy medium virtues like transcending fearfulness to have courage but not at the point of recklessness...
some codes involved in protecting the environmnet
slaughtering animals in a way that reduces pain
zakat charity work
shaytan as a symbol of selfishness falsehood and an enemy that creeps up on ya
The force of unwavering faith to conquer your inner demons and such an such.

There's some gems in there. Now which to hold on to and which to forego..

[QUOTE=JEFFERSON MONEY]LMFAO at the dude quoting Einstein.

What kind of wannabe smart guy quotes an accomplished physicist to support their opinions on the infantility of those of Faith. Bro if you want to bolster your atheist agenda get on dat dere David Hume and Voltaire time.

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He brought up Einstein, dipshit. I just posted what Einstein himself had to say about god. :cheers:

[QUOTE=Brokenbeat]Irrefutable certainty for creationists:

[IMG]http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/937240/ray-s-banana-o.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]


Friggin' idiot picked a genetically modified, asexual seedless fruit that wouldn't survive without humans to prove the existence of God :facepalm :roll:

The common banana has an intelligent designer--humans.