No triple-double for LeBron in NY: NBA rescinds that 10th rebound

[QUOTE=lilmarcgasol]I think barring the refs trying to win the game for him, Lebron will get shut down by Kobe just like he was at staples and Cavs will go down at home.[/QUOTE]


That's why LeBron is leading their head to head matchup, 6-4. The referees were biased last month, and this time the Cavaliers are going to destroy the Lakers at Home.

Well now ther will be an asterisk next to this game

[QUOTE=Fatal9]
I watched both games and am relatively [SIZE="7"][b]unbiased[/b][/SIZE] (though I do enjoy watching Kobe more) and Lebron's impact on the game was not even close to Kobe's[/QUOTE]

Bwahahaha :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You are the biggest LeBron hater I know of on the net, and that's something given the amount of LAKER fans out there. I think it's time you land on my IL. Good Bye.

[QUOTE=Jacks3]Kobe:
31 shots 20 ft attempts 3 assists 2 turnovers = 46 possesions resulting in 67 points (2 pts per assist)

67/46 = 1.46 pts per possesion

+/- +19

Bron:
33 shots 19 ft attemps 11 assists 3 turnovers = 56 possesions resulting in 74 points (2 points per assist)

74/56 = 1.34 pts per possesion

+/- +7

Overal Kobe had the more efficient and effective night. What about the rebounds? Yes Lebron pulled down those 10 boards boards but take a closer look and you will see that they were out rebounded by NY meaning he as a forward HAD to get as many as possible. The Lakers on the other hand outrebounded NY by a wide margin and the forwards were gobbling up nearly as many as Cle had as a team. With Pau and Lamar getting 14 apiece there wasn't much for Kobe to grab. It was a strange night for him not to grab any but with LA getting 52 total and a +10 margin, he didn't have to at all.

Another thing I noticed is that LA had 25 assists total to 20 for the Cavs which tells me that despite all the assists he got, he was somewhat stagnating the offense and dominating the ball. Kobe on the other hand was getting his points in the flow of the offense, off ball movement and getting to his spots. I think that showed in the +/- and the closeness of the game.

Both were rediculously amazing performances, but I beg to differ with Spike Lee. Kobe had the better game, individually and team wise.[/QUOTE]

Assists are not factored in to counting possessions...

It's like saying a team that shot 100 times, with 20 FTA, 30 assists and 10 turnovers actually had 130 possesions, which is impossible.

wtf?????? When players do that tapping out techniques and another player on their team gets the ball, the guy that gets the ball gets credit for the rebound. I know this for sure because I've seen this happen numerous time with Chandler (batting the lose ball ) and CP3 coming up with the ball for the rebound.


key word...

[quote]The league said the rebound with 39.3 seconds left should have been credited to Cavaliers center [b]Ben Wallace, who tapped a loose ball[/b] that James grabbed.[/quote]

LBJ was robbed:rant

[QUOTE=Jacks3]Kobe:
31 shots 20 ft attempts 3 assists 2 turnovers = 46 possesions resulting in 67 points (2 pts per assist)

67/46 = 1.46 pts per possesion

+/- +19

Bron:
33 shots 19 ft attemps 11 assists 3 turnovers = 56 possesions resulting in 74 points (2 points per assist)

74/56 = 1.34 pts per possesion

+/- +7

Overal Kobe had the more efficient and effective night. What about the rebounds? Yes Lebron pulled down those 10 boards boards but take a closer look and you will see that they were out rebounded by NY meaning he as a forward HAD to get as many as possible. The Lakers on the other hand outrebounded NY by a wide margin and the forwards were gobbling up nearly as many as Cle had as a team. With Pau and Lamar getting 14 apiece there wasn't much for Kobe to grab. It was a strange night for him not to grab any but with LA getting 52 total and a +10 margin, he didn't have to at all.

Another thing I noticed is that LA had 25 assists total to 20 for the Cavs which tells me that despite all the assists he got, he was somewhat stagnating the offense and dominating the ball. Kobe on the other hand was getting his points in the flow of the offense, off ball movement and getting to his spots. I think that showed in the +/- and the closeness of the game.

Both were rediculously amazing performances, but I beg to differ with Spike Lee. Kobe had the better game, individually and team wise.[/QUOTE]
good post, droppin knowledge like gallileo dropped an orange

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]I've done statistics for basketball many, many times. It is a difficult task and, sometimes, there are rebounds, assists, or steals that could go to several players... it is completely arbitrary and subjective.

[B]It happens all the time in the league and I'm wondering why this one play (that I can remember) warrants being changed. Even the call that they overruled was an arbitrary call. Wallace was sort of juggling the ball and LeBron gained control. [/B]

Did this warrant a league review and overturn?[/QUOTE]

To me wallace was not juggling the ball he had possession of it and flipped it to Lebron. The only reason I can think of to change it is the historic nature of the event. One less rebound doesn't make it a lesser performance but if you're going to tout something for the record books then it makes sense to do it right, especially since it got so much exposure already.

[QUOTE=Indian guy]Bwahahaha :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You are the biggest LeBron hater I know of on the net, and that's something given the amount of LAKER fans out there. I think it's time you land on my IL. Good Bye.[/QUOTE]
The question now becomes, does Fatal actually BELIEVE that he is an unbiased source of information regarding LeBron? The guy enters nearly every Cavalier or LeBron related thread and attempts to downplay his role in games and diminish his impact as a player, overall.

Honestly... I can't think of a more biased poster that can actually formulate a discernible sentence and isn't a gimmick account.

[QUOTE=Diesel J]wtf?????? When players do that tapping out techniques and another player on their team gets the ball, the guy that gets the ball gets credit for the rebound. [/QUOTE]

I don't know, last time I checked, the guy who did the tapping out got credit. But I just watched that Cavs-Knicks game and Ben Wallace did that twice and Mo Williams and Wally got credit for the rebounds :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE]wtf?????? When players do that tapping out techniques and another player on their team gets the ball, the guy that gets the ball gets credit for the rebound. I know this for sure because I've seen this happen numerous time with Chandler (batting the lose ball ) and CP3 coming up with the ball for the rebound.


key word...


Quote:
The league said the rebound with 39.3 seconds left should have been credited to Cavaliers center Ben Wallace, who tapped a loose ball that James grabbed.


LBJ was robbed[/QUOTE]

That's not what happened, though. He didn't "tap the ball". Wallace tapped the ball himself several times and had it under control. Then when the defender pressured him, he shovel passed it to LeBron.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]The question now become, does Fatal actually BELIEVE that he is an unbiased source of information regarding LeBron?[/quote]

Not unless he's retarded. The guy's entire life on this board has revolved around hating LeBron and protecting Kobe.

[QUOTE=Mikaiel]:lol Yeah, totally unbiased. You just said LeBron getting 9 boards was not a good thing cos he didn't leak out for transition buckets. Really ? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
No I didn't?

I said Kobe NOT leaking out for fast breaks while fighting for rebounds with his own teammates is a bad thing. I watched the games and outside of maybe one or two rebounds, all of Lebron's were with his teammates around him. I'm not saying he is stat padding, which is an outrageous claim anyways, but his rebounding numbers don't really mean he is securing boards which his teammates wouldn't have gotten. Plus, he got 0 offensive boards so he didn't even end up adding any possessions for his team with those rebounds.

[QUOTE=Indian guy]Not unless he's retarded. The guy's entire life on this board has revolved around hating LeBron and protecting Kobe.[/QUOTE]


F@got9

:oldlol: :roll: :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Mikaiel][b]I don't know, last time I checked, the guy who did the tapping out got credit[/b]. But I just watched that Cavs-Knicks game and Ben Wallace did that twice and Mo Williams and Wally got credit for the rebounds :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Nope, they don't. I've seen this happen numerous time with Chandler and Cp3. let me see if I can find a video example