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[quote] do they think hes trying to draw foul and should quit?[/quote]
I dont think its either of the 2... I think its just a reflex where he tries to clear out with that arm like players do when they drive the lane...
Its not trying to draw a foul as much as looks like hes trying to avoid having the shot contested or blocked and his clear-out motion with his arm is something that he does almost unconsciously..
he still has to fix it tho
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]:confusedshrug:
I don't remember anything. Bron doesn't flail his arms like that... especially on a fadeaway. It would be different if Kobe was driving to the basket where more contact tends to occur. He draws so much attention to it by doing it on outside shots.
I don't feel sorry for the guy. Whether you agree with the suspension or not, it should have been clear to Kobe after the first one that the league isn't going to put up with it. This one is just stupidity on Kobe's part. The league didn't really have any other choice but to suspend him.
Just play the game and quit trying to show that there is contact when there isn't any.[/QUOTE]
I understand that and I agree it
[QUOTE=Rasheed1]Stop it.... Michael & Larry & Reggie didnt regularly hit people in the face with their flailing arms...
you yourself agree that kobe needs to adjust... and that is the bottom line here... Kobe needs to simply [b]Stop all the flailing and hitting people in the face..[/b]
Its not Wade, Bird & Michael Jordan's fault Kobe cant properly draw a foul...Its not the refs fault either..Its Kobe's
I think the suspension is uneccesary, but kobe is not doing the same thing Bird & Jordan and Reggie and Wade have done..
He is making a foul look like a flagrant foul[/QUOTE]
No - you stop it. In that post I wasn't defending Kobe's specific practice of flailing his arms, which I've already said he needs to adjust. I was defending the general practice of offensive players doing what they can to draw fouls, in response to this post from Shogun...
[QUOTE]Even if it's what he's trying to do (draw a foul) it's not what he should do. I don't know where you got the idea that flopping (which is exactly what that is) is the proper thing to do, but you're mistaken. [B]It's basically trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the refs. Another way to word it is... well... cheating. There's no room for that kind of crap on the defensive end, nor the offensive end. It's disgusting to watch.
Only Wade knob gobblers defend the way he plays & goes to the line.[/B] Are you in denial? Most of this board hates the way Wade goes to the FT line all game long and gets phantom calls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=hotsizzle]I just want to know this...Do people on here think hes doing it on PURPOSE with an intent to hurt OR do they think hes trying to draw foul and should quit?[/QUOTE]
I think it is a combination. Is he purposely hitting people in the face? Probably not. Does he get frustrated when his shot is blocked in crucial situations? Probably.
[B]As a Laker fan it sickens me to see kobe resort to hurting other players to get even, from Miller, Ginobili, AK47, and now Jaric, he is supposed to be a model player emulate by kids but for him to do this, it just not right, he needs to apologize and change his ways.[/B]
[QUOTE=HollaBolla][B]As a Laker fan it sickens me to see kobe resort to hurting other players to get even, from Miller, Ginobili, AK47, and now Jaric, he is supposed to be a model player emulate by kids but for him to do this, it just not right, he needs to apologize and change his ways.[/B][/QUOTE]
He's just flopping to get phantom calls, and it usually works with todays refs.
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even bill thinks 24 is dirty
kobe would be considered clean in the 80s or 90s.
he's not a dirty player at all. stockton was a dirty player.
I think he's trying to draw a foul, and if that fails, clear space for him to go for the rebound. Anyone else notice that when he did the same thing to Manu he was first to go back up for the blocked shot?
[QUOTE=XxNeXuSxX]He's just flopping to get phantom calls, and it usually works with todays refs.[/QUOTE]
well, he neeeds to stop this crap, its hurting other players, one of these days he could end somebody's career by his inexcusable actions.
Do you guys have to reply to every repeated topic? Damn
[QUOTE=hotsizzle]I just want to know this...Do people on here think hes doing it on PURPOSE with an intent to hurt OR do they think hes trying to draw foul and should quit?[/QUOTE]
I think he's doing it with the intention of drawing a foul and/or holding back another player from getting the rebound... and that he should stop doing it. Someone can get hurt. I don't think that the offensive foul is suspension worthy...
[QUOTE=HollaBolla][B]As a Laker fan it sickens me to see kobe resort to hurting other players to get even, from Miller, Ginobili, AK47, and now Jaric, he is supposed to be a model player emulate by kids but for him to do this, it just not right, he needs to apologize and change his ways.[/B][/QUOTE]
I agree about apoogizing and changes his ways, but I dont know about dirtiest player ever. That award would probably go to someone in the late
80's - early 90's
[QUOTE=GOBB]Do you guys have to reply to every repeated topic? Damn[/QUOTE]
Do you have to run to every Kobe thread to defend him? Damn
[QUOTE=GOBB]Do you guys have to reply to every repeated topic? Damn[/QUOTE]
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