Re: Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender
[QUOTE=Smook A.]:roll: He's injured 1 player his whole career. People act like he injured 10 guys[/QUOTE]
You might be right he only injured one player, it's the guys attitude that makes people look down on him. I mean WTF was his deal going for Westbrook's knee after the whistle again? That **** wasn't funny... not to mention he's gets way up on people to the point they can't land safely after a jumpshot. I've seen him creep up on Curry and (seemingly) stick his feet out underneath. Not cool.
Re: Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender
[QUOTE=JohnMax]All I know is when Lin comes in the game against Westbrook and CP3, they seem to have easier time scoring[/QUOTE]
yeah thats why Westbrook was held to 0-5 against Lin and 6-9 on Beverley+ 2 fouls on threepoint attempts:roll: :roll:
Re: Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender
Re: Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender
[QUOTE=AnaheimLakers24]that dudes garbage[/QUOTE]
:applause: :applause:
Re: Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender
A lot of people saying Beverley is a dirty player.
Show me. I want evidence. I'll wait.
Re: Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender
[QUOTE=ABfor3]I'm from Houston, and I love the Rockets to death but Mario Stanfield I'm not sure if your a rockets fan or just a really really big Jeremy Lin fan ..? Either way, you push out the same agenda in every thread I've seen you post in..I understand your frustration with McHale and Lins playing time but it's getting old already.
Anyways, on topic Beverley is a good defender, I got comcast and I've seen almost every rockets game for the past 5 years or so? He does tend to gamble but that's what makes you great is when you take risks. He's had multiple game changing defensive plays, which is why McHale loves him. McHale was a great defender in his day(multiple all defensive selections) , and he has Lin coming off the bench because he's better suited for it, he is basically Harden just not as good. You can't have 2 players like that on the starting lineup so you keep the better one in and have the other one play the role off the bench. Both great off the PnR, Lin a better defender, harden a better scorer, it works especially because of Lins chemistry with Asik and Cisco already off the bench.[/QUOTE]
I hate to break it to you, but the only basketball skill Harden has is having NBA refs in his back pocket.
Re: Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]take a look at defensive rapm if you are going the stats route...that certainly is a better metric than individual defensive rating.
Beverly has a plus 2.5 defensive rapm. Which is better than just about any other pg in the league. [B]Better than Paul, better than Conley, better than George Hill, better than Westbrook, better than Wall, better than Chalmers[/B]...[/QUOTE]
I'm not seeing your point here.............the OP was saying that Beverley isn't a good defender. To dispute that you said he was a better defender than a bunch of guys that are bad defenders............
So what exactly is your point?
Beverley isn't a good defender at all. Anyone with serious basketball knowledge can see that. I would put him as slightly above average, only due to his energy, hustle and effort.....[B]that's from NBA POV only[/B], where no one cares or plays any defense, especially at point guard position, so it exaggerates any kind of hustle or energy play.
[B]
If you take that away, and just consider that no one defends anyone in NBA really, especially at point guard, and stop being enamored with someone giving effort there, and just look at the actual defense being played, he's not fundamentally doing a damn thing at all on defense.[/B]
He certainly isn't "good".
So again, it's just the anomaly of NBA fans not grasping that they can't differentiate from realizing that no one plays defense in NBA, especially at point guard, so they get enamored from seeing someone try to do so at point guard...........even if the defense isn't even good.
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its pretty uncool to put your foot under a dude when he's shooting a jumper hoping that he'll land on your foot and get injured, esp when youre in the nba and that is a guys livelihood
bev is a silly thug, if he couldnt put a ball in a hoop he would be slinging crack.
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[QUOTE=YouGotServed]A lot of people saying Beverley is a dirty player.
Show me. I want evidence. I'll wait.[/QUOTE]
PUT DOWN THE PIPE
Re: Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender
[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]I don't think Beverley tries to actually hurt anyone and he definitely wasn't trying to hurt Westbrook the other night.
But he WAS trying to get in his head and that timeout play WAS on purpose.
I just don't like players like that. I mean, it's one thing if you're Rodman or Artest and you're producing buckets and/or rebounds, but when you're a thug and your statline ends up being 2pts, 3 rbs, 0 assts...just shut the **** up and play the game. I'm not saying that's Beverley, but if keeps up the shit he pulled against OKC, he WILL become that kind of player.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: I absolutely loved how he went at Westbrook after the timeout was called. It was low-class for sure, but Beverley doesn't give a shit about being classy. F[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck class. Class is overrated. Most of the all time greats weren't classy on the court anyway, they were assholes.
I don't agree with your logic. What does PatBev's stats have to do with anything? :oldlol: @ this idea of having a correlation between sportsmanship and stats. Anyway, IIRC, PatBev tried to give Westbrook daps last year and Westbrook got mad and slapped his hand away.
He made it clear he doesn't want to be friends or "cool" with Beverley. Why would Beverley go to Westbrook and apologize to him after that? What Beverley did was low, and I loved it. I hope he does it again next time they meet.
Again, somebody show me video evidence of Beverley being dirty. I'm waiting.
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[QUOTE=IncarceratedBob]its pretty uncool to put your foot under a dude when he's shooting a jumper hoping that he'll land on your foot and get injured, esp when youre in the nba and that is a guys livelihood
bev is a silly thug, if he couldnt put a ball in a hoop he would be slinging crack.[/QUOTE]
i go with smoking it. he already looks like a crackhead.
thats why i call him lil cracky
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[QUOTE=Rocketswin2013]Bitch quote.[/QUOTE]
True quote.
Re: Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender
[QUOTE=YouGotServed]:oldlol: I absolutely loved how he went at Westbrook after the timeout was called. It was low-class for sure, but Beverley doesn't give a shit about being classy. F[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]ck class. Class is overrated. Most of the all time greats weren't classy on the court anyway, they were assholes.
I don't agree with your logic. What does PatBev's stats have to do with anything? :oldlol: @ this idea of having a correlation between sportsmanship and stats. Anyway, IIRC, PatBev tried to give Westbrook daps last year and Westbrook got mad and slapped his hand away.
He made it clear he doesn't want to be friends or "cool" with Beverley. Why would Beverley go to Westbrook and apologize to him after that? What Beverley did was low, and I loved it. I hope he does it again next time they meet.
Again, somebody show me video evidence of Beverley being dirty. I'm waiting.[/QUOTE]
Typical clutchfans psychopath right here...................
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Jeremy Lin sucks butt and Beverley is better than him. Get over it.
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[QUOTE=Euroleague]Typical clutchfans psychopath right here...................[/QUOTE]
Cool. Now show me video evidence of Beverley being a dirty player.