#23 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

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John Battle (#12 on the hawks) ??????

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[B]Dwyane Wade[/B] with the best playoff series in NBA History winning his team a title.

-Averaged 40 PPG in the wins
-Awful supporting cast compared to other title winners
-Team was underdogs
-30-5-8-2-2 on 49/32/77 in his prime.

This guy had the most impressive series in NBA History, led his team to a titlee single-handily, and won another title as a 2nd option, all with some All NBA teams. It is his time.

#23 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops Voting

15- George Mikan
12- Isiah Thomas
7- David Robinson
1- Scottie Pippen
1- Dwyane Wade

I'm going to go with David Robinson here at 23.

Honestly I don't know where Mikan fits in, his career accomplishments are outstanding but it's quite obvious his game and abilities would not have translated across the eras like many all-time greats. I guess you only go with stats and dominance relative to peers.

Very good posts regarding Mikan KBlaze, I will take a slight exception with the assertion that it's top five or bust for Big George.

For me it's top 15 or higher. I personally couldn't take him out of my top eleven right now.

Once you reach the level those eleven guys did (at one point considered unquestionably the best player in the World) and back it up like they did (By winning multiple titles as their teams best player) I think using things like titles or MVP's to differentiate is unsatisfying.

For me, acknowledging that Mikan was for his era what Wilt, Kareem & Shaq were subsequently for theirs is to give the ranking credence. At that point I don't punish Mikan because he achieved the things he did in a less competitive era for both big men and superstars, but rather reward players like Russell for getting the best of Wilt so often and elevating Jordan because of his amazing dominance from the back court despite the presence of so many superstar centers and forwards from the same basic era. Magic, Kareem and Bird get a bump from having played against each other for so many seasons and to have still racked up so many accolades. Likewise for the modern trio of Shaq/Duncan/Kobe.

Anyway I want to second your overall point of view and how much of a cop out it is to just arbitrarily assign Mikan a spot somewhere between how good he was then and how good you suspect he might be today.

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[B]Dwyane Wade[/B] with the best playoff series in NBA History winning his team a title.

-Averaged 40 PPG in the wins
-Awful supporting cast compared to other title winners
-Team was underdogs
-30-5-8-2-2 on 49/32/77 in his prime.

This guy had the most impressive series in NBA History, led his team to a titlee single-handily, and won another title as a 2nd option, all with some All NBA teams. It is his time.[/QUOTE]

Get the f*ck out of here with that sh*t.

Isiah FTW!!!!

Can't believe Dirk lasted until 22. People just don't understand the game.

Top 20 easily.

Really dont think being a Mavs fan for 30 years skews your opinion on that?

Im often amazed at how everyone but the fanbase of the person talking underrates the favorite player of that fanbase....and those fans dont notice that they are doing the exact same thing the fans of other players are doing....and being called idiots for it.