Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015543]It's Iran and their proxies for sure. Combine that with all the neo-Nazis in the United States and right here on this forum, and it's pretty substantial opposition to Israel. But yeah, let's stand back and watch the Jews get decimated again.[/QUOTE]

Yea…not the same thing. In the slightest.

Another thing to consider, last time the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, they had alliances with NATO allies that helped with heavy lifting. This time it's only the US and the Zionists, and guess who will have to do the heavy lifting eventually? To control a country, you have to have boots on the ground, lots of them, you can't defeat a country as big as Iran by air strikes alone...it ain't going to be the Jews taking out enemy combatants in Tehran, it's going to be US troops.

The only way we can stop this stupidity is by charging and arresting politicians who drag us into wars under false pretenses, should have gone after the GWBush warmongers to put an end to this madness. All things fair, Netanyahu and Trump should be charged with crimes against humanity if they go through with their war crimes.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15015544]They were going ham on the Palestinians, they're easy targets. They're now going after their main enemy, Iran, coincidentally after Trump got in power and we all know the Zionists wanted Trump even when Biden was letting them run roughshod in Gaza. They clearly have dirt on Trump, and we will be going to war and this shit will be a disaster, for all parties involved.

After all the failures recently, it's insane you would even consider that Iran would fold and we wouldn't incur any "pain", as you put it. Gas prices would go through the roof immediately, and with that, everything else. Trump is playing with fire, but he's too dense to realize it.[/QUOTE]

I could just as easily argue that Israel didn't start going ham until Biden "coincidentally" came into power. That's not proof of anything whatsoever.

Meanwhile, of all the possible nightmare scenarios that could arise from this war, your default answer was rising gas prices? Don't get me wrong that wouldn't be ideal, but THAT'S your biggest concern? Didn't gas prices soar when Biden was president too?

[QUOTE=diamenz;15015542]which group do you think is more aligned with america's interests?[/QUOTE]

That's a ridiculous question.

I don't agree with Ben Shapiro when it comes to everything but I don't think he is an enemy of America.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15015550]I could just as easily argue that Israel didn't start going ham until Biden "coincidentally" came into power. That's not proof of anything whatsoever.

Meanwhile, of all the possible nightmare scenarios that could arise from this war, your default answer was rising gas prices? Don't get me wrong that wouldn't be ideal, but THAT'S your biggest concern? Didn't gas prices soar when Biden was president too?[/QUOTE]

You said that if war vs Iran went without "pain" and it ended rather easily, which in no way shape or form is that an actual realistic possibility, I mentioned that gas prices would skyrocket, along with everything else, in a best case scenario. That is incurring pain, no? Obviously worst case scenario is unthinkable, the end of modern civilization as we know it...the risks are too high, the net gains of a possible best case scenario aren't worth the lives of millions.

Trump could literally be the last US president in a worst case scenario that is on the table, a real possibility

[QUOTE=TheMan;15015552]You said that if war vs Iran went without "pain" and it ended rather easily, which in no way shape oform is that an actual possibility, I mentioned that gas prices would skyrocket, along with everything else, in the best case scenario. That is incurring pain, no? Obviously worst case scenario, the endo of modern civilization as we know it...the risks are too high, the net gain of a possible best case scenario aren't worth the lives of millions.

Trump could literally be the last US president lol[/QUOTE]

Well then if the economy totally craters and the cost of living goes through the roof, you won't need to do much convincing then. The people will naturally turn on Trump. It would have to be real economic pain though, not the type you imagine with your friends at "no kings". It wasn't long ago when you guys were swearing the stock market would never recover and that we were right on the verge of a depression.

But again I have to ask, what does Israel have to gain by weakening America's position? Don't they rely on our military and our protection? If America is weakened financially or otherwise, isn't that bad for Israel too?

There's still a chance Trump goes rogue and breaks the oath with the Elders of Zion.... He's still a king sith lord of the Knight's Templar.

I've seen some foreshadowing of that in a Hollywood film... but it would ultimately lead to his death. (save his reputation though, maybe).



It's not that the Jews have dirt on Trump from what I've researched.... It's that the Jews bailed him out when he was close to a $Billion Dollars in debt...

Who financed and owned Trump after that? The Jewish Elite.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15015554]

But again I have to ask, what does Israel have to gain by weakening America's position? Don't they rely on our military and our protection? If America is weakened financially or otherwise, isn't that bad for Israel too?[/QUOTE]


Not if it ultimately leads to Globalism.

That's the aftermath of all this war.... Globalism will be the solution.

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15015559]Not if it ultimately leads to Globalism.

That's the aftermath of all this war.... Globalism will be the solution.[/QUOTE]

Well then someone better remind the board lefties then. If that's the case you would think this would be a cause for celebration.

No more countries and their pesky "borders".

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[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15015547]Yea…not the same thing. In the slightest.[/QUOTE]

It's the same thing. Explain the difference then in your eyes.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15015549]Another thing to consider, last time the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, they had alliances with NATO allies that helped with heavy lifting. This time it's only the US and the Zionists, and guess who will have to do the heavy lifting eventually? To control a country, you have to have boots on the ground, lots of them, you can't defeat a country as big as Iran by air strikes alone...it ain't going to be the Jews taking out enemy combatants in Tehran, it's going to be US troops.

The only way we can stop this stupidity is by charging and arresting politicians who drag us into wars under false pretenses, should have gone after the GWBush warmongers to put an end to this madness. All things fair, Netanyahu and Trump should be charged with crimes against humanity if they go through with their war crimes.[/QUOTE]

You sound insane.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15015524]So Iran is the hero in your story?[/QUOTE]

Iran [b]is[/b] the hero. Of course you bloodthirsty loonies that want Muslims killed would side with the evil fks that have been genociding for the past 20 months.

Pretty sure they said Saddam had WMD's and started a war over it, that turned out well didn't it

Rinse and repeat

I will say this.

I don't think Trump is truly autonomous. He is in a lot of respect, but not when it comes to certain things. Such is the case with every person that has ever been president.

I noticed it back in 2017 when he first became president. People may not remember but President Trump was a lot more tame compared to Primary Trump. In the primaries the guy was totally unhinged even for his standards. He toned it down a lot once the election drew near and then he toned it down even further once he became president. Remember he went from telling Hillary he would throw her in jail to "Geez I don't know guys I wasn't really being serious..." Granted I never ever thought Trump was seriously considering throwing Hillary in jail, but the fact that he was willing to say it outright was something in and of itself.

Also, it can't be denied that he's shaky when it comes to the Epstein thing. Either he's implicated or he's obligated to someone who is. Like I said usually Trump answers questions with bravado and confidence, but one time when he was asked about releasing the Epstein tapes he said "Geez I don't know we wouldn't wanna make certain people look bad" or something to that effect. You could tell he was bullshitting and he wasn't speaking from the heart. He appeared compromised. Same with Patel and Bongino. They're compromised. Clearly.

I guess the real question is at what point were they compromised. Just like with Patel and Bongino, Trump seemed to have a lot more balls before he took office. In an interview he talked about Epstein's "cesspool island" and even threw Prince Andrew's name in the mix. I posted the video in the Epstein thread. Maybe that was before he was tapped.. OR before he saw how deep the rabbit hole really went.

As of this moment, I don't think Trump OR Israel has any interest in destroying the world as we know it. I also don't think Trump has any interest in tanking America. That doesn't benefit Trump OR Israel. I am guessing that if they are pulling off this type of maneuver, they believe the battle has already been won. I pray to God that they're right.

By all means if you think I have it wrong I'm open to hearing what you have to say. But don't bother if all you have is "Israel is a demonic death cult hell bent on world domination..."

Deep inside every MAGA's heart is a neocon.

[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5356939-trump-supporters-iran-israel-iran-strike/?fbclid=IwY2xjawLAmGNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFSZThNQUZ1UkVvSXJQMVhWAR6MY92weP9ie9fljuFQMN3pINOoDa8Lj_Hj1ow0z9Clvi9D1du9Y6HmrnzxQg_aem_u3qSDctoACnR0aHX-nXULA[/url]

Steve Bannon assures all that brainless MAGAS will support Trump's idiotic war with Iran.

What you really thought the cult was a bunch of peaceniks?

[url]https://archive.org/details/six-million-jews-1915-1938_202212[/url]
(Six Million Jews 1915 - 1938)


Not claiming Holocaust denial here... but it wasn't 6 million.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015582]It's the same thing. Explain the difference then in your eyes.[/QUOTE]

You want me to explain the difference between a tangible hostile takeover of the continent of Europe and overall global war being waged by the axis powers vs “proxies” that Iran is fighting in the Middle East?

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15015620]You want me to explain the difference between a tangible hostile takeover of the continent of Europe and overall global war being waged by the axis powers vs “proxies” that Iran is fighting in the Middle East?[/QUOTE]

I want you to explain why helping an ally in Israel is different this time. You made the claim that it is and that it's none of our business if Iran wants to eradicate Israel. How is that any different than Hitler wanting to invade Poland and France and drop bombs over London?

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015631]I want you to explain why helping an ally in Israel is different this time. You made the claim that it is and that it's none of our business if Iran wants to eradicate Israel. How is that any different than Hitler wanting to invade Poland and France and drop bombs over London?[/QUOTE]

Because the scale of the conflict literally exponentially less in scope and in danger for us than this. It’s not close.

And again, we didn’t enter WWII until it was clear that there was true tangible danger that was going to affect us at home.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15015636]Because the scale of the conflict literally exponentially less in scope and in danger for us than this. It’s not close.

And again, we didn’t enter WWII until it was clear that there was true tangible danger that was going to affect us at home.[/QUOTE]

you're wasting your time lol. we all learned about ww2 and the existential threat the axis powers posed as the annexed and conquered parts of europe and asia. there is simply no comparison since the axis made it clear they wanted to take over everything and were extremely aggressive about it. iran has not acted on any similar ambitions, nor are they even close to taking over any country.

patrick is stupid, don't get it wrong, but he also loves to act ignorant on the most basic of subjects.

Also, let's be clear on something, there are absolutely no credible reports that the Iranians were close to a bomb, US intelligence has made it clear, Tulsi Gabbard recently confirmed this. Netanyahu has been claiming since the 80s that the Iranians were "months away", he's a liar just like Trump. This is a totally unprovoked and illegal war, the US are enabling the bad actors in this conflict, the Jew colonizers, we are siding with the aggressors. We are the bad guys, make no mistake about it.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15015469]What am I supposed to see? That Trump is Israel's lap dog?

Are you saying he's totally subservient to Israel and has no autonomy?[/QUOTE]

actually no i [I]don't[/I] think that he has any autonomy in regard to this particular scenario, certainly not enough to put his foot down and hold israel at bay.

look, trump is bought and compromised when it comes to israel - this isn't even up for debate. the cash flow log is a google search away. the adelsons, the greater israel lobby and the same neocons that were behind the iraq war that trump so vocally opposed before they had a hand in getting him elected are all influencing him on this. as i'm sure you're aware, this influence is overwhelming, especially as it continues to take shape over time and israel makes moves militarily to force his hand. it's no different than big $ entities that are in the pockets of us congresspeople. trump [I]owes[/I] them.

that being said, let me turn around and ask you the same question. can you honestly tell me that trump really gives two shits about israel or at the least cares [I]enough[/I] to assist in facilitating all of this, risking a major uprising from his base and the ensuing economic blowback that follows, if he weren't bought? do you really honestly think that he would risk doing the bidding of netanyahu and promote/encourage another foreign war in the ME that has, at the least, the [I]potential[/I] to be the worst that we've seen yet, at minimum in regard to gas prices and our markets and at worst our building debt and body count at the expense of his legacy and america in general after centering his campaign on prioritizing [I]our[/I] interests above all?

i don't think so. this is why i said that you know better.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15015655] [B]there are absolutely no credible reports that the Iranians were close to a bomb, US intelligence has made it clear[/B], [/QUOTE]

:confusedshrug:

[video=youtube;JC56Ltg5zDE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC56Ltg5zDE[/video]

[QUOTE=diamenz;15015669]:confusedshrug:

[video=youtube;JC56Ltg5zDE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC56Ltg5zDE[/video][/QUOTE]

This jackass has been claiming this since the 80s. He's always wanted to knock off the Iranian government and we're about to finally fulfill this maniac's fantasy at our own expense. We just never learn, if Trump goes along with this, he'll be loathed even worse than GWB, no one today admits they voted for him and supported his wars :lol

Looks like it's reported that Trump will give two weeks of trying to see if diplomacy will work out for Iran before deciding if the United States will directly strike Iran.

[QUOTE=Meticode;15015689]Looks like it's reported that Trump will give two weeks of trying to see if diplomacy will work out for Iran before deciding if the United States will directly strike Iran.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Meticode;15015689]Looks like it's reported that Trump will give two weeks of trying to see if diplomacy will work out for Iran before deciding if the United States will directly strike Iran.[/QUOTE]

TACO Trump Always Chickens Out

[QUOTE=Meticode;15015689]Looks like it's reported that Trump will give two weeks of trying to see if diplomacy will work out for Iran before deciding if the United States will directly strike Iran.[/QUOTE]

BREAKING: A reporter just called out Trump’s pattern of saying “two weeks” anytime he’s indecisive and wants to avoid making a tough decision. The media needs to call this out.

netanyahu is crying on tv about his son having to delay his wedding for the 2nd time due to the missiles & how its a huge personal price.

these demons are so unserious about this. :facepalm


and trump is no different, he's hesitating bc he knows his voter base is split. 2 weeks? either tehran or tel aviv will be reduced to rubble by then most likely, neither side is stopping the aggression.

[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;15015697]BREAKING: A reporter just called out Trump’s pattern of saying “two weeks” anytime he’s indecisive and wants to avoid making a tough decision. The media needs to call this out.[/QUOTE]

Don't be an idiot, we want Trump to reconsider, this war could have catastrophic unintended consequences, could lead to WWIII in a worst case scenario, Iran isn't alone, Pakistan is an ally (nuclear power) and more importantly, Russia and China. We are literally playing with fire...Iran isn't a real threat to the US, Israel's problem ain't our problem. Don't goad TACO into something catastrophic, STFU and sit this one out, bro.

we can't rule out of the possibility that israel may use a low-yield nuclear weapon in order to inflict sufficient enough damage on the two main underground nuclear facilities that everyone is talking about if the 30,000lbs bombs don't get the job done or there's the off chance that they won't.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15015739]we can't rule out of the possibility that israel may use a low-yield nuclear weapon in order to inflict sufficient enough damage on the two main underground nuclear facilities that everyone is talking about if the 30,000lbs bombs don't get the job done or there's the off chance that they won't.[/QUOTE]

next 2 weeks everyone will be shitting bricks

the exception being DoD contracturds. they're probably pre-ordering new yachts.

[QUOTE=highwhey;15015741]next 2 weeks everyone will be shitting bricks[/QUOTE]


So we set the over/under at 4th of July?


I think this might be something Trump would want to do a few days after the 4th... I'll take the over.

Two B-2 bombers were airborne today conducting "training". This would be the plane used if the United States used 30,000lbs bunker busters bombs.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15015739]we can't rule out of the possibility that israel may use a low-yield nuclear weapon in order to inflict sufficient enough damage on the two main underground nuclear facilities that everyone is talking about if the 30,000lbs bombs don't get the job done or there's the off chance that they won't.[/QUOTE]

An Iranian military officer said that Pakistan told Iranian officials that they would drop nukes on Israel if they used nukes on Iran so...this shit could get out of hand real fast.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15015751]An Iranian military officer said that Pakistan told Iranian officials that they would drop nukes on Israel if they used nukes on Iran so...this shit could get out of hand real fast.[/QUOTE]

:roll:

[QUOTE=TheMan;15015751]An Iranian military officer said that Pakistan told Iranian officials that they would drop nukes on Israel if they used nukes on Iran so...this shit could get out of hand real fast.[/QUOTE]

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