Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say

[QUOTE=TheMan;15015751]An Iranian military officer said that Pakistan told Iranian officials that they would drop nukes on Israel if they used nukes on Iran so...this shit could get out of hand real fast.[/QUOTE]

If that happens, Pakistan will no longer exist.

[QUOTE=n00bie;15015786]If that happens, Pakistan will no longer exist.[/QUOTE]

How?

[QUOTE=highwhey;15015648]you're wasting your time lol. we all learned about ww2 and the existential threat the axis powers posed as the annexed and conquered parts of europe and asia. there is simply no comparison since the axis made it clear they wanted to take over everything and were extremely aggressive about it. iran has not acted on any similar ambitions, nor are they even close to taking over any country.

patrick is stupid, don't get it wrong, [B]but he also loves to act ignorant on the most basic of subjects[/B].[/QUOTE]

I know I know

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15015636]Because the scale of the conflict literally exponentially less in scope and in danger for us than this. It’s not close.

And again, we didn’t enter WWII until it was clear that there was true tangible danger that was going to affect us at home.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying I want to go into Iran, but you're saying we should wait till Iran nukes Israel or comes very close to wiping Israel off the map before we get involved?

Your philosophy is that we only wait for tangible danger that was going to affect us at home? That's about the dumbest thing you can do with terrorist governments that lob missiles at your allies.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15015721]Don't be an idiot, we want Trump to reconsider, this war could have catastrophic unintended consequences, could lead to WWIII in a worst case scenario, Iran isn't alone, Pakistan is an ally (nuclear power) and more importantly, Russia and China. We are literally playing with fire...Iran isn't a real threat to the US, Israel's problem ain't our problem. Don't goad TACO into something catastrophic, STFU and sit this one out, bro.[/QUOTE]


He (as usual) is imposing a two week delay because we know he will forget about this in this time.

He's hoping the news cycle changes and nobody is talking about this in two weeks.

Trump reconsiders nothing. He backing away from this because he knows it will split the MAGA base.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015839]Your philosophy is that we only wait for tangible danger that was going to affect us at home? That's about the dumbest thing you can do with terrorist governments that lob missiles at your allies.[/QUOTE]

This is the philosophy that lead us into the Iraq War debacle.

Which you supported.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015839]I'm not saying I want to go into Iran, but you're saying we should wait till Iran nukes Israel or comes very close to wiping Israel off the map before we get involved?

Your philosophy is that we only wait for tangible danger that was going to affect us at home? That's about the dumbest thing you can do with terrorist governments that lob missiles at your allies.[/QUOTE]

neither of these scenarios are close to happening. iran doesn't have a nuke nor are they anywhere close to wiping out israel. as of tonight, iran is on the verge of being wiped out. they don't have any allies supporting them like israel does and they have much inferior weapons technology. trump chose 2 weeks bc that's about as long as iran's military can withstand an exchange of firepower with israel, especially since israel is being propped up by USA so they essentially have infinite firepower.

i'd be veyr surprised if iran lasts 2 weeks at this rate.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015839]I'm not saying I want to go into Iran, but you're saying we should wait till Iran nukes Israel or comes very close to wiping Israel off the map before we get involved?

[B]Your philosophy is that we only wait for tangible danger that was going to affect us at home?[/B] That's about the dumbest thing you can do with terrorist governments that lob missiles at your allies.[/QUOTE]

That's not [I]my[/I] philosophy :lol

Just explaining history to you I guess?

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15015865]That's not [I]my[/I] philosophy :lol

Just explaining history to you I guess?[/QUOTE]

Hmmm imagine if we would have gotten to Hitler a little bit sooner.

Hmmmmmmmmmm......

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015874]Hmmm imagine if we would have gotten to Hitler a little bit sooner.

Hmmmmmmmmmm......[/QUOTE]

Yea if only we could go back and kill him when he was a baby.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15015888]Yea if only we could go back and kill him when he was a baby.[/QUOTE]

That's not nice.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015874]Hmmm imagine if we would have gotten to Hitler a little bit sooner.

Hmmmmmmmmmm......[/QUOTE]

how is nazi germany comparable to iran? does your obese brain really not understand that they were the aggressors in their conflict? as is israel in modern time.

it;s like trying to blame burger king employees for your obesity. they simply assembled the whoppers, it's your fault for being 400 pounds. you're the one that sought out the burgers, they didn't force feed them to you.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015889]That's not nice.[/QUOTE]

Yes it is!

[QUOTE=highwhey;15015859]neither of these scenarios are close to happening. iran doesn't have a nuke nor are they anywhere close to wiping out israel. as of tonight, iran is on the verge of being wiped out. they don't have any allies supporting them like israel does and they have much inferior weapons technology. trump chose 2 weeks bc that's about as long as iran's military can withstand an exchange of firepower with israel, especially since israel is being propped up by USA so they essentially have infinite firepower.

i'd be veyr surprised if iran lasts 2 weeks at this rate.[/QUOTE]

What news are you watching?

Israel went from we want regime change, to no, we're not looking for regime change. Iran has an insane amount of missiles (preparing for this), and the vast majority of the missiles that they've used are from an old stockpile that are 20 to 25 years old. They're causing so much destruction in Israel right now, and it's costing them (and us) 300 million dollars a day to defend. For every missile that gets through, it's like 12 iron dome missiles that misses them. Israel has even started to let some missiles go through, because they are running out of interceptors ($50,000 to $100,000 each, David Sling $1,000,000 each, Arrow 3, 3 million each, and teh SM-3 from US NAVY ships is costing us, 10 to 28 million dollars each).

I'm curious, because the major news on the NY Post was the hospital getting hit, and then they quickly buried it, and Israel censoring the damages. The Tel Aviv Stock Exchange hit was big news, and then nothing.

[QUOTE=highwhey;15015897]how is nazi germany comparable to iran? does your obese brain really not understand that they were the aggressors in their conflict? as is israel in modern time.

it;s like trying to blame burger king employees for your obesity. they simply assembled the whoppers, it's your fault for being 400 pounds. you're the one that sought out the burgers, they didn't force feed them to you.[/QUOTE]

You're factually incorrect as usual. Iran funds and orchestrates every attack on Israel. So you're Israel is the aggressor stance is just wrong. When you are blinded by hatred for the Jew, you begin to make mistakes as you've made here.

[QUOTE=jstern;15015904]What news are you watching?

Israel went from we want regime change, to no, we're not looking for regime change. Iran has an insane amount of missiles (preparing for this), and the vast majority of the missiles that they've used are from an old stockpile that are 20 to 25 years old. They're causing so much destruction in Israel right now, and it's costing them (and us) 300 million dollars a day to defend. For every missile that gets through, it's like 12 iron dome missiles that misses them. Israel has even started to let some missiles go through, because they are running out of interceptors ($50,000 to $100,000 each, David Sling $1,000,000 each, Arrow 3, 3 million each, and teh SM-3 from US NAVY ships is costing us, 10 to 28 million dollars each).

I'm curious, because the major news on the NY Post was the hospital getting hit, and then they quickly buried it, and Israel censoring the damages. The Tel Aviv Stock Exchange hit was big news, and then nothing.[/QUOTE]

the most recent twitter videos. i can't vouch for their validity, but the most recent video clip i saw, was of an Iranian carbon fiber plant that was instrumental in missile production for Iran.

and money is no object for israel (USA)...because they have their hands balls deep in our pockets. 3.8 billion a year they recieve in aid...and i'm going to venture and say that is in addition to the current conflict so they really do have the money to go the distance.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015907]You're factually incorrect as usual. Iran funds and orchestrates every attack on Israel. So you're Israel is the aggressor stance is just wrong. When you are blinded by hatred for the Jew, you begin to make mistakes as you've made here.[/QUOTE]

so again, you're blaming iran for something israel created (they formed and funded hamas).

[QUOTE=highwhey;15015859]neither of these scenarios are close to happening. iran doesn't have a nuke nor are they anywhere close to wiping out israel. as of tonight, iran is on the verge of being wiped out. they don't have any allies supporting them like israel does and they have much inferior weapons technology. trump chose 2 weeks bc that's about as long as iran's military can withstand an exchange of firepower with israel, especially since israel is being propped up by USA so they essentially have infinite firepower.

i'd be veyr surprised if iran lasts 2 weeks at this rate.[/QUOTE]

WTF, where are you getting your news from? First, air strikes alone won't decimate Iran, it will lead to a lot of civilian casualties but Iran's big wigs are dug deep and the US and Israel don't know where they are, if they did, they would be dead by now. And Iran does have support, the Russians and Chinese will arm them to try to thwart the US and Israel's goal at regime change. This is where a conflict of this nature can escalate into unintended consequences. There are 200 Russian nuclear scientists currently in Iran, if the US kills a bunch of them, the Russia could potentially start bombing US targets in retaliation...you don't think the Russians would be eager for some payback with the US previously supporting the Ukraine? The previous two world wars started off a regional conflicts that just escalated, this could easily escalate too, especially considering Iran is an important oil producer to Russia and China, they're not gonna sit idelly by and let the US and Israel have their way without any pushback.

[QUOTE=highwhey;15015912]so again, you're blaming iran for something israel created (they formed and funded hamas).[/QUOTE]

:facepalm


Israel didn't create the Houthis or Hezbollah.

Oh look the dirty beaners spent their whole day seething about Donald Trump again.


Wow, what a shocker! :lol:

Highwhey is so fat he legit has stretch marks on his stomach and the man is some little midget beaner who wants to cheat on his fat wife and **** his cousin because she looks more white than him.

May god bless these two muchachos, jesus knows they need it more than anyone.

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[QUOTE=RRR3;15015921][IMG]https://i.ibb.co/hxhxLntk/Methy-the-slack-jawed-yokel.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

You are a sub six feet and chubby and ugly jewish dude

Let me know how that works out for you

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015914]:facepalm


Israel didn't create the Houthis or Hezbollah.[/QUOTE]

you mean the people israel continually bombs and keeps them oppressed?

[QUOTE=RRR3;15015921][IMG]https://i.ibb.co/hxhxLntk/Methy-the-slack-jawed-yokel.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

You are a sub six feet and chubby and ugly jewish dude

Let me know how that works out for you

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15015918]Highwhey is so fat he legit has stretch marks on his stomach and the man is some little midget beaner who wants to cheat on his fat wife and **** his cousin because she looks more white than him.

May god bless these two muchachos, jesus knows they need it more than anyone.[/QUOTE]

I'm 5"9 165 lbs of lean muscle, redneck. I quit all my bad habits years ago, unlike you methy. If we were to trade hands, I'd beat you into next Tuesday you degenerate junkie. You're fortunate I'm a God fearing man or else I'd hunt you down and beat you like the mangy scoundrel that you are...

Question is, do you have any opinions or insights you want to add or are you just gonna resort to your low IQ racial slurs which confirms to everyone here that you have nothing to add.

There's a Spanish saying that translated says... it's better to be quiet and let people think you're an idiot than open your mouth and leave no doubt you're an idiot... everytime you chime in, I can't help but be reminded of the quote.

Go away junkie

[QUOTE=TheMan;15015927]I'm 5"9 165 lbs of lean muscle, redneck. I quit all my bad habits years ago, unlike you methy. If we were to trade hands, I'd beat you into next Tuesday you degenerate junkie. You're fortunate I'm a God fearing man or else I'd hunt you down and beat you like the mangy scoundrel that you are...

Question is, do you have any opinions or insights you want to add or are you just gonna resort to your low IQ racial slurs which confirms to everyone here that you have nothing to add.

There's a Spanish saying that translated says... it's better to be quiet and let people think you're an idiot than open your mouth and leave no doubt you're an idiot... everytime you chime in, I can't help but be reminded of the quote.

Go away junkie[/QUOTE]

165?? Goddamn son, you'd get pushed around if we ever met. That's scrawny as ****.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015928]165?? Goddamn son, you'd get pushed around if we ever met. That's scrawny as ****.[/QUOTE]

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highweight is like 4 TheMan's put together. highweight, share some tacos with your brother, ese.

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15015928]165?? Goddamn son, you'd get pushed around if we ever met. That's scrawny as ****.[/QUOTE]

Size 30 waist, I've been lifting weights for 5 years now, lean and mean, bro. Best shape of my life, no more smoking weed, beer only on weekends. I'm light but quick on my feet, I also box to keep in shape. warriorfan would absolutely get stomped by me if he were to be so unlucky to run into me. I'm a forgiving man, I will allow the scrub to talk smack here, it's inconsequential in the larger scheme of things.

[QUOTE]he Israeli military has claimed that more than 60 fighter jets took part in the attacks on the Iranian capital, which it said used approximately 120 munitions.
The army also said it struck “several industrial sites for missile production” in the Tehran area.
As we’ve been reporting, Israel’s attacks across Iran over the past several days have killed hundreds of people.[/QUOTE]
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Two Weeks = Too Weak

"Two Weeks" is the "Mexico Will Pay" of "I'll end the war in 24 hours."

They're begging daddy Trump to give them the 30 000 ton buster bomb. Already waiting on handouts.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15015931]Size 30 waist, I've been lifting weights for 5 years now, lean and mean, bro. Best shape of my life, no more smoking weed, beer only on weekends. I'm light but quick on my feet, I also box to keep in shape. warriorfan would absolutely get stomped by me if he were to be so unlucky to run into me. I'm a forgiving man, I will allow the scrub to talk smack here, it's inconsequential in the larger scheme of things.[/QUOTE]

Settle down midge

[QUOTE=diamenz;15015667]actually no i [I]don't[/I] think that he has any autonomy in regard to this particular scenario, certainly not enough to put his foot down and hold israel at bay.

look, trump is bought and compromised when it comes to israel - this isn't even up for debate. the cash flow log is a google search away. the adelsons, the greater israel lobby and the same neocons that were behind the iraq war that trump so vocally opposed before they had a hand in getting him elected are all influencing him on this. as i'm sure you're aware, this influence is overwhelming, especially as it continues to take shape over time and israel makes moves militarily to force his hand. it's no different than big $ entities that are in the pockets of us congresspeople. trump [I]owes[/I] them.

that being said, let me turn around and ask you the same question. can you honestly tell me that trump really gives two shits about israel or at the least cares [I]enough[/I] to assist in facilitating all of this, risking a major uprising from his base and the ensuing economic blowback that follows, if he weren't bought? do you really honestly think that he would risk doing the bidding of netanyahu and promote/encourage another foreign war in the ME that has, at the least, the [I]potential[/I] to be the worst that we've seen yet, at minimum in regard to gas prices and our markets and at worst our building debt and body count at the expense of his legacy and america in general after centering his campaign on prioritizing [I]our[/I] interests above all?

i don't think so. this is why i said that you know better.[/QUOTE]

Musk donated money to Trump's campaign too. Is Trump obligated to him in a similar fashion? I went on google like you said he donated almost 3x as much money as Adelson did.

Like I said let's assume you're right. Let's say Trump is really compromised to such a degree that he has no autonomy and that Israel is in charge of everything. What do they have to gain by starting WW3? No one has been able to answer that for me yet. Wouldn't a war of this scale hurt them just the same?

I'm asking in good faith here. What is Israel's so called grand scheme?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15016028]Musk donated money to Trump's campaign too. Is Trump obligated to him in a similar fashion? I went on google like you said he donated almost 3x as much money as Adelson did.

Like I said let's assume you're right. Let's say Trump is really compromised to such a degree that he has no autonomy and that Israel is in charge of everything. [B]What do they have to gain by starting WW3? No one has been able to answer that for me yet. Wouldn't a war of this scale hurt them just the same?[/B]

I'm asking in good faith here. What is Israel's so called grand scheme?[/QUOTE]

I don't think they care. They know we'll protect them push come to shove and can do what they want.

I also don't think they believe WWIII is in the cards.

Imagine being one of the board's MAGAS.

You have to change your core principals over and over again to match Trump's whims in a given week.

Must be exhausting and humiliating.

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:dancin:djparty:dancin

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15016044]I don't think they care. They know we'll protect them push come to shove and can do what they want.

I also don't think they believe WWIII is in the cards.[/QUOTE]

You don't think they care? About their own safety and security?

Recklessly engaging in a large scale war without any fear of repercussion doesn't sound very smart to me. It sounds like an awfully big gamble. In addition to Trump wouldn't Israel need the majority of U.S. congress on their side as well? You're already seeing people on Trump's own side disavow.

They would need to stage a direct attack on the U.S., but again that's also a huge gamble.