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[QUOTE=DreamRockets]but that isnt what we are discussing here :confusedshrug: we are discussing who was the heat's mvp in '05, and that was shaq, not wade, it wasnt wade who made that bum damon jones shoot 3's like he was dale ellis, shaq did.[/QUOTE]
excellent Dale Ellis reference!
Shaq obviously doesn't want Nash to win a third MVP, and he shouldn't. Nash had no business winning it last year.
[QUOTE=Who'sKobe]Shaq obviously doesn't want Nash to win a third MVP, and he shouldn't. Nash had no business winning it last year.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he apparently doesn't have enough tattoos. And NBA tends to be more for the "Blacks Only" type of award.
Shaq is absolutely right (you don't know how hard it is for me to say that). Nash being a back-to-back MVP makes me puke everytime I think of it.
Here are all the back-to back MVP's in NBA history:
Bill Russell
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Moses Malone
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
Tim Duncan
Steve Nash
Which name doesn't seem to fit in with the rest? You decide.
And don't call me a Nash ***** either. I actually believe THIS season is Nash's most deserving year for MVP. The two previous ones should've went to Shaq (2005) and Dirk (2006) respectively..
[QUOTE=Mean Joe Bean]Shaq is absolutely right (you don't know how hard it is for me to say that). Nash being a back-to-back MVP makes me puke everytime I think of it.
Here are all the back-to back MVP's in NBA history:
Bill Russell
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Moses Malone
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
Tim Duncan
Steve Nash
Which name doesn't seem to fit in with the rest? You decide.
And don't call me a Nash ***** either. I actually believe THIS season is Nash's most deserving year for MVP. The two previous ones should've went to Shaq (2005) and Dirk (2006) respectively..[/QUOTE]
Shaq won 58 games in the Eastern Conference, Nash team won 62. Nash team the year before he got there (Amare, Marion, Joe Johnson) won 29 games. Shaq team the year before he got there, made the playoffs. Put each one together. Nash>Shaq
[QUOTE=c_az_a]Yeah, he apparently doesn't have enough tattoos. And NBA tends to be more for the "Blacks Only" type of award.[/QUOTE]
Blacks Only award which explains why a white guy won the MVP two consecutive years.
[QUOTE=c_az_a]Shaq won 58 games in the Eastern Conference, Nash team won 62. Nash team the year before he got there (Amare, Marion, Joe Johnson) won 29 games. Shaq team the year before he got there, made the playoffs. Put each one together. [B]Nash>Shaq[/B][/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=Who'sKobe]Blacks Only award which explains why a white guy won the MVP two consecutive years.[/QUOTE]
It appears that way with all the "Nash doesn't deserve it". So they bring up a guy like AI only having one, Shaq only having one. What about John Stockton not having one????? Oh, forgot about Kobe and that guy makes everyone around him better. Oh wait, his team wins, Kobe credit. Team lose, kobe needs help. You say, last year Dirk deserve it, therefore, your comments is contradictory when you claim Shaq the year before. How, Suns had the best record two years as Mavs did last year. Shaq doesn't even fit in the equation. Could Shaq win 54 games in the Western Conference without Dwyane Wade? I dobut it... because he barely won 58 with D-Wade in the East.
[QUOTE=Who'sKobe]Blacks Only award which explains why a white guy won the MVP two consecutive years.[/QUOTE]
The NBA is marketing towards the wrong market segment. Apparently NASCAR is richer and starting to entertain black people (not the hood mentality ones of course) and they are making money. The NBA continues with this Kobe, LeBron thing, the players will make their cash but no where close to other sports who show players with class. Pac Man Jones should join the NBA because he fits the persona.
[QUOTE=Mean Joe Bean]Shaq is absolutely right (you don't know how hard it is for me to say that). Nash being a back-to-back MVP makes me puke everytime I think of it.
Here are all the back-to back MVP's in NBA history:
Bill Russell
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Moses Malone
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
Tim Duncan
Steve Nash
Which name doesn't seem to fit in with the rest? You decide.
And don't call me a Nash ***** either. I actually believe THIS season is Nash's most deserving year for MVP. The two previous ones should've went to Shaq (2005) and Dirk (2006) respectively..[/QUOTE]
Obviously Nash ain't on their level. But how many times must it be said, YOU'RE NOT COMPETING WITH THE PAST, you're judged on how you do THIS season against other players...of the same season.
With that said Nash didn't deserve either one of his MVPs. But not because of that idiotic argument of bringing up past names, but because there were players who played better than him NOW.
[QUOTE=FabCasablancas]With lamar Odom... and in the EAST![/QUOTE]
The East wasn't that bad then. Yeah the West still owned them, but it's nothing like it is today. And you bring up Lamar Odom like he's some kind of dominant player or something. Odom has never even sniffed the playoffs before that season with the Heat.
[QUOTE=c_az_a] Pac Man Jones should join the NBA because he fits the persona.[/QUOTE]
Are you trying to say NFL players behave better than NBA players? Don't make me laugh..
[QUOTE=c_az_a]It appears that way with all the "Nash doesn't deserve it". So they bring up a guy like AI only having one, Shaq only having one. What about John Stockton not having one????? Oh, forgot about Kobe and that guy makes everyone around him better. Oh wait, his team wins, Kobe credit. Team lose, kobe needs help. You say, last year Dirk deserve it, therefore, your comments is contradictory when you claim Shaq the year before. How, Suns had the best record two years as Mavs did last year. Shaq doesn't even fit in the equation. Could Shaq win 54 games in the Western Conference without Dwyane Wade? I dobut it... because he barely won 58 with D-Wade in the East.[/QUOTE]
re-read my post again:
Shaq obviously doesn't want Nash to win a third MVP, and he shouldn't. Nash had no business winning it [B]last year.[/B].
You have confused me for someone else..that was my first post here and I never had Dirk as the MVP..although he would have been an excellent choice too. Shaq was up for MVP in 2005. Last year it was Kobe and Dirk.
[QUOTE=Solid Snake]Obviously Nash ain't on their level. But how many times must it be said, YOU'RE NOT COMPETING WITH THE PAST, you're judged on how you do THIS season against other players...of the same season.
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I'm glad someone finally brought this up.
nba players irritate me when they act like this