Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender

okay guys there has been much talk about Patrick Beverley lately if hes a dirty player or not.
while i think he has those tendencies we might have to watch him for a longer sample size to decide.
what is 100% clear to me is that he isnt even average on defense.
sure he gambles for steals and especially early in games he gets quite a few. but thats it.
all he does outside of this is handcheck all game, has the second most fouls per 36 minutes of all guards and still cant defend good PGs in any way.
he gets picked easily, gets burned hard by fast PGs and has a very bad defensive IQ. he fouled 3 pt shooters OFTEN this season and often late in games too.
hes a terrible team defender and at most average on 1 on 1 defense. the stats prove this as opposing PGs, even average ones, often go off on him.
he for example has a WAY worse defensive rating than his back up Lin too.
so why do you guys think hes starting on Houston??
hes worthless on offense and at best an average defender.:biggums: :wtf: :coleman:

1. He's the dirtiest punk player in the NBA.

2. He is not a good defender.

3. NBA fans are complete morons.

That about sums it all up.

Beverley is all hustle and effort...which equates to good on the ball defense.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]1. He's the dirtiest punk player in the NBA.

2. He is not a good defender.

3. NBA fans are complete morons.

That about sums it all up.[/QUOTE]

What was he like in the Euro league?

[QUOTE=Clyde]Beverley is all hustle and effort...which equates to good on the ball defense.[/QUOTE]
it actually doesnt because he gets lit up even by average PGs on a regular basis.
this while fouling the ntire time with excessive handchecking.
Jeremy Lin showed he can completely shut down opposing PGs this season, did it even in multiple consecutive games.
Beverley starting is pure hate by coach McFail and his desire to prove he was right to cut Jeremy before Linsanity:facepalm

[QUOTE=Clyde]What was he like in the Euro league?[/QUOTE]
If i remember he only played in Eurocup which is at best D-League level

[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]it actually doesnt because he gets lit up even by average PGs on a regular basis.
this while fouling the ntire time with excessive handchecking.
Jeremy Lin showed he can completely shut down opposing PGs this season, did it even in multiple consecutive games.
Beverley starting is pure hate by coach McFail and his desire to prove he was right to cut Jeremy before Linsanity:facepalm[/QUOTE]

huh?

Jeremy is obviously bigger, but he's not shutting down anyone.

I also see you have Lin as a top 5 point guard, so I'm just going to put you ignore because you're here to troll people.

[QUOTE=Clyde]Beverley is all hustle and effort...which equates to good on the ball defense.[/QUOTE]

He's barely average at best in on ball defense. Anyone saying otherwise has never seen him play a game.

[QUOTE=Clyde]huh?

Jeremy is obviously bigger, but he's not shutting down anyone.

I also see you have Lin as a top 5 point guard, so I'm just going to put you ignore because you're here to troll people.[/QUOTE]
Lin held PArker to 6 points on 12 % earlier this season while having an efficent offensive game himself, then held Thomas to 5/17 and Wall to 6/19 in CONSECUTIVE games when Scruberley was injured.
and that is only an example, he did that multiple times this season.
last game vs Thunder WEstbrook was 0-5 on Lin while he was 6-9 on beverley

[QUOTE=Euroleague]He's barely average at best in on ball defense. Anyone saying otherwise has never seen him play a game.[/QUOTE]


I've seen him play 3 times this week.

Can't knock his hustle or effort.

[QUOTE=Clyde]What was he like in the Euro league?[/QUOTE]

As I already told you, he was the third string point guard on Olympiacos.


[B]Here is his Euroleague profile:[/B]

[url]http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=001927&seasoncode=E2009[/url]

He was supposed to be a "defensive specialist" with Olympiacos, because he could not really shoot, or score, and he was supposed to be a "hustle and energy role player" that would rebound, and "get under the skin of the opponent"....in other words be the dirtiest player in Euroleague.

He had I believe a 3 year contract, but he only last 1 year, because he actually was not a good defender, as he could not keep any fast point guards in front of him. All he actually could do was be the dirtiest player in Euroleague and seemingly try to injure opposing players just about every time he got in a game.

He was advertised as a "defender" to Olympiacos by Pat Riley, and as Giannakis, the Olympiacos coach said, they did not keep him because he actually did not shut down down anyone at any time that he was asked to at any important game or moment.

Just as an example, Spanoulis completely destroyed him in the Greek League playoffs.

He's a 3rd string point guard. That's about his true level. That's what he really is. Daryl Morey is just a moron.

Jeremy Lin is a much better player than him.

[QUOTE=Clyde]I've seen him play 3 times this week.

Can't knock his hustle or effort.[/QUOTE]
god absolutely devastated the last two games on defense while provoding nothing on offense.
dat hustle doe

[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]it actually doesnt because he gets lit up even by average PGs on a regular basis.
this while fouling the ntire time with excessive handchecking.
Jeremy Lin showed he can completely shut down opposing PGs this season, did it even in multiple consecutive games.
Beverley starting is pure hate by coach McFail and his desire to prove he was right to cut Jeremy before Linsanity:facepalm[/QUOTE]

It's not McHale. It's Morey and his "genius" stats. His "genius" stats and calculations decide everything on that team. Including the playing time and rotations.

Beverley actually isn't that bad on defense. Jeremy Lin is a good defense PG?

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dsV3gZw.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Euroleague]As I already told you, he was the third string point guard on Olympiacos.


[B]Here is his Euroleague profile:[/B]

[url]http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=001927&seasoncode=E2009[/url]

He was supposed to be a "defensive specialist" with Olympiacos, because he could not really shoot, or score, and he was supposed to be a "hustle and energy role player" that would rebound, and "get under the skin of the opponent"....in other words be the dirtiest player in Euroleague.

He had I believe a 3 year contract, but he only last 1 year, because he actually was not a good defender, as he could not keep any fast point guards in front of him. All he actually could do was be the dirtiest player in Euroleague and try to injure opposing players just about every time he got in a game.

That's about his true level. He's a 3rd string point guard. That's what he really is. Daryl Morey is just a moron.

Jeremy Lin is a much better player than him.[/QUOTE]
damn Euroleague dropping truthbombs as always.
totally nailed it:cheers: :cheers: