Point Guard options

So we have all at some point agreed that we can use an upgrade at the point guard position. Let us all take turns to examine who is out there, and what possible options the lakers can pursue.

I have not heard about what the warriors did with [B]Acie Law[/B]. Did they end up keeping him or did he sign elsewhere? What would it take to get Acie Law? Clearly he is not a minimum wage player as I myself, still consider him to be a prospect.

[B]Sebastian Telfair[/B] is also a free agent on the TWolves. Any word on whether they kept him, are keeping him, or if he's leaving?

I also like the thought of [B]Aaron Brooks[/B] and [B]Nick Young[/B]. I know that Nick Young is a shooting guard, but he can handle the ball well, he's very young and athletic, and against the lakers, him and Kobe sure like to compete. Its fun watching those.

Now... Let us evaluate what we have to offer

[B]Picks[/B]
1st round pick: 2012 from Dallas
1st round pick: 2012
2nd round pick: 2012

[B]Prospects[/B]
Derrick Caracter
Devin E-banks
Andrew Goudelock
Darius Morris

[B]Expiring contracts[/B]
The lakers do not have any attractive expiring contracts.

It seems to me that landing a young guard could be very well possible, if we are talking about a Kirk Hinrich caliber point guard. We would have to throw in a first rounder, probably 2 of our young prospects, and a role player that can still make an impact, i.e. Metta World Peace.

If you guys have any ideas for who to trade, and what point guard you would like, feel free to share!

Keep posting!

~LF~

Pulling off something for Hinrich, Teague or Lou Williams should be the primary objective.

If we aren't getting any of those just sign Baron for the min. and hope he can play like last year on a more consistent level.

there are no upgrades available thru free agency.
Baron Davis is injured and you never know what you get in the best of times.
Agent Zero is not a true PG, but at least he can spread the floor.

My money is on Zero...he will be signed for minimum dollars.

Sounds like Baron could be heading to the Knicks.

[QUOTE=lakerfreak]So we have all at some point agreed that we can use an upgrade at the point guard position. Let us all take turns to examine who is out there, and what possible options the lakers can pursue.

I have not heard about what the warriors did with [B]Acie Law[/B]. Did they end up keeping him or did he sign elsewhere? What would it take to get Acie Law? Clearly he is not a minimum wage player as I myself, still consider him to be a prospect.

[B]Sebastian Telfair[/B] is also a free agent on the TWolves. Any word on whether they kept him, are keeping him, or if he's leaving?

I also like the thought of [B]Aaron Brooks[/B] and [B]Nick Young[/B]. I know that Nick Young is a shooting guard, but he can handle the ball well, he's very young and athletic, and against the lakers, him and Kobe sure like to compete. Its fun watching those.

Now... Let us evaluate what we have to offer

[B]Picks[/B]
1st round pick: 2012 from Dallas
1st round pick: 2012
2nd round pick: 2012

[B]Prospects[/B]
Derrick Caracter
Devin E-banks
Andrew Goudelock
Darius Morris

[B]Expiring contracts[/B]
The lakers do not have any attractive expiring contracts.

It seems to me that landing a young guard could be very well possible, if we are talking about a Kirk Hinrich caliber point guard. We would have to throw in a first rounder, probably 2 of our young prospects, and a role player that can still make an impact, i.e. Metta World Peace.

If you guys have any ideas for who to trade, and what point guard you would like, feel free to share!

Keep posting!

~LF~[/QUOTE]
Yes, I mentioned Mo Williams from a separate thread, but Acie Law? Telfair? And even a SG?REally>?:(
Is Steve Blake really that bad for you guys?
Steve has hovered around 10 pts, 6 assists per 36 mins of play the past few years.
He has a career 3pt % of 39%.
Just before Phil decided to over rely on Fish last year, Steve averaged 10pts 6.3 assists at Portland and with Clips.
Im not saying he would be an allstar but IMO, he would be far better than other alternatives right now. Unless ofcourse we are talking about players who have been in allstar games, averaged more than 15 pts 8 assists/game ,shoot a decent % from the 3pt area AND HEALTHY.

[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]there are no upgrades available thru free agency.
Baron Davis is injured and you never know what you get in the best of times.
Agent Zero is not a true PG, but at least he can spread the floor.

My money is on Zero...he will be signed for minimum dollars.[/QUOTE]

My money would be on Zero also, even though I wouldn't like it. I don't care about his playing abilities, im talking about his behavior. His pranks are too far. I wouldn't want him causing locker room problems. But yes, I agree he's another scoring threat that can spread the floor. Him and Kobe can be the primary ball handlers. It'll take pressure off Kobe.

Agent Zero would be just fine. Kirk is a nice addition as well.

i would take the chance and look at Blake, Fish,... under coach Brown. we all have to accept that Phil is gone and with him the triangle, the no-action for rookies,...

and then make the moves for new players.

[QUOTE=L.A. Jazz]i would take the chance and look at Blake, Fish,... under coach Brown. we all have to accept that Phil is gone and with him the triangle, the no-action for rookies,...

and then make the moves for new players.[/QUOTE]

I want to see Blake start if were the Lakers don't make anymore signings.

signing Zero could have some real benefits:
1. instant offense off the bench, and/or
2. if starter, spreads the court, can't double anyone and
3. an attraction for Dwight Howard.

Hinrich or Jarrett Jack please

[QUOTE=brownmamba00]Pulling off something for Hinrich, Teague or Lou Williams should be the primary objective.

If we aren't getting any of those just sign Baron for the min. and hope he can play like last year on a more consistent level.[/QUOTE]

I've long been a Hinrich fan.
I was really hoping ATL would resign Crawford (super suprised they let him walk, especially for the low amount of pay he will be getting), then I thought they may be interested in moving Kirk for the LO TE, along with a future pick.
(So esentially we'd get Kirk for LO). Not so sure they want to move him now though, but I agree, he'd be a nice fit.

[QUOTE=BallsOut]Hinrich or [B]Jarrett Jack[/B] please[/QUOTE]
Is he even available ?

If we can get him for a cheap 1 year deal I say why not.
But I heard the Knicks want him as well.

How is he health wise?

Who I would sign up is Aaron Brooks.

Baron Davis is officially off the market.

Moving Devin Harris?: ESPN

Wait can Lamar TE 8.9 million be use to get Harris?

Harris has one more year at 8.5 right??

But he is owed 9.3 this season??? Somebody help me with the numbers on this.

I know guys like Hinrich and Jack would be huge upgrades to what we have now, but I would rather find a point guard who can regularly break down defenses and get guys open shots. Hinrich and Jack, while both solid players, don't really do that consistently.

I like the Aaron Brooks option....

We need a speed guy who can sink shots.... We really only have
one penetrator (Kobe) which leads to everyone watching Kobe
do his thing... even when he's triple teamed!!!

[QUOTE=magicmanfan]I like the Aaron Brooks option....

We need a speed guy who can sink shots.... We really only have
one penetrator (Kobe) which leads to everyone watching Kobe
do his thing... even when he's triple teamed!!![/QUOTE]

Brooks can't get out of China until March....unless we make a deal to pay them off. I would love to have him!!!!

As it stands, this laker team is not a serious contender for the title. They should trade Bynum + Morris + Goudelock + 1st and 2nd round pick for Dwight Howard. Then send the TE and 2nd round pick to the Hawks for Kirk Hinrich

PG: Hinrich/Blake/Fisher
SG: Bryant/Kapono
SF: Barnes/Peace/Ebanks
PF: Gasol/McRoberts
C: Howard/Murphy

:bowdown:

Hinrich is not really what we need at PG and Harris would be awful don't need a 29 year old honestly... would prefer someone younger and quicker. Harris still is decently quick but injuries have slowed him some and he can't shoot.

Let's remember folks, the Lakers need an upgrade at PG for defensive purposes. Hinrich is probably the best as they come in that regard. If he doesn't work out his 8.1 mill comes off the books by the end of this season as well. Better risk than Devin Harris who has 9.3 mill left on his contract next year and not known for his defense.

Jarrett Jack is another option if New Orleans wants to shed some more salary.

Give Mike Taylor a chance!

I would trade bynum plus filler for D12 and then turn Pau into couple of role players like scola/martin/lowry

Pau for D williams/Beasley/wes johnson/filler

Lakers dont need a BIG 3....they can win with Dwight/Kobe and bunch of good role players like scola/lowry and martin to come off the bench plus who is an expirer next year

[QUOTE=BallsOut]Let's remember folks, the Lakers need an upgrade at PG for defensive purposes. Hinrich is probably the best as they come in that regard. If he doesn't work out his 8.1 mill comes off the books by the end of this season as well. Better risk than Devin Harris who has 9.3 mill left on his contract next year and not known for his defense.

Jarrett Jack is another option if New Orleans wants to shed some more salary.[/QUOTE]


OK........If we trade for a PG who then comes off the books, we'll be in a worse spot next year than we are now....right?

I hope we are not dumb enough to attempt a trade with Stern again.......kinda like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football with Lucy holding it....(Ok, I'm old) only to have her repeatedly move the ball causing him to land on his head. Let's not be that guy. I'll bet Stern has told every NBA team to turn down any trade the Lakers offer.

[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]I would trade bynum plus filler for D12 and then turn Pau into couple of role players like scola/martin/lowry

Pau for D williams/Beasley/wes johnson/filler

Lakers dont need a BIG 3....they can win with Dwight/Kobe and bunch of good role players like scola/lowry and martin to come off the bench plus who is an expirer next year[/QUOTE]
Pipe dream dude....

Any how I'm all for getting Howard now for future purposes. Players will make their way to LA in the future if we get him. Yes we need a pg but a franchise big man is harder to find. And no Bynum is not that. I would give up both Bynum n Gasol and get Howard turkeyboy n Nelson.

When I see point guards options oh I think what might of been with chris paul:(

[QUOTE=DirtySanchez]Pipe dream dude....

Any how I'm all for getting Howard now for future purposes. [B]Players will make their way to LA in the future if we get him. Yes we need a pg but a franchise big man is harder to find. And no Bynum is not that.[/B] I would give up both Bynum n Gasol and get Howard turkeyboy n Nelson.[/QUOTE]

Bingo! I believe many people, both Laker fans and non-fans alike, who talk about the Lakers needing a PG, not Howard, are only thinking of now. A ring doesn't seem likely this year so they might as well prepare for the future. Bryant has another 2-3 years of elite production and Howard along with the right supporting cast could yield one last hurrah. Not to mention the Lakers just made that Time Warner TV deal last year.

How about hire AI for cheap or temporary hire until we get true young PG? He could be of use to us for now I think. At least he can be that other guy other than Kobe to attack the paint.

[QUOTE=kobesabi]How about hire AI for cheap or temporary hire until we get true young PG? He could be of use to us for now I think. At least he can be that other guy other than Kobe to attack the paint.[/QUOTE]


I've been thinking about that for weeks :cheers: I know most guys will bash the idea but I'm all for it.

He's (iverson's) been out of basketball for a while. I wouldn't trust him as a starter, or as a player on this team.

Hey, Eric Gordon refuse to sign extension with NO....Could we get this guy.

[QUOTE=LA.MJ&KB#1]Hey, Eric Gordon refuse to sign extension with NO....Could we get this guy.[/QUOTE]

:facepalm Attempting to trade with Stern :facepalm :oldlol:

[QUOTE=lakerfreak]He's (iverson's) been out of basketball for a while. I wouldn't trust him as a starter, or as a player on this team.[/QUOTE]

I'm positive he's still better than anyone we have right now.

[QUOTE=LA.MJ&KB#1]Hey, Eric Gordon refuse to sign extension with NO....Could we get this guy.[/QUOTE]

Another team out there would probably offer a lot more for him than we could..

It's funny to me that Hinrich's name is still thrown out there. I would have loved him when Phil Jackson was the coach and the Lakers were running the triangle. Now that Mike Brown is the coach I don't see him fitting in. I wasn't really ever a fan of that hire..... I didn't like him in Cleveland and I don't like what he's doing in LA..... back to the PG thing, I do like the Aaron Brooks ideas. Sure we can't get him until March but it's only a month away. He'll have enough time to fit in and gel with the team before the playoffs. Right now he looks like the best available option. I like gambling on Arenas for the vets minimum too. I still think Morris needs more PT as well.

[QUOTE=DKLaker]I'm positive he's still better than anyone we have right now.[/QUOTE]

hmm...goudelock?

[url]http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/164075075719544832[/url]

Ramon Sessions?

[QUOTE=lakerfreak]hmm...goudelock?[/QUOTE]

I liked him since we drafted him.......but let's not get too excited yet.....right Smush? :roll: