His court vision among PGs is top 10.
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His court vision among PGs is top 10.
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jeremy lin drinks cobra venom before playing
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jeremy lin shot one 3 and it counted for 100 points.
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I been noticed too. Great passer but other than that he sucks. His court vision is definitely top 10. For now.
jeremy lin once wrestled a bear the bear was called for a foul
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Yeah, his court vision is his saving grace right now because his shooting and overall impact has been "so so". But, he is one of those guys that can control the game without scoring a point. But I would definitely say he is one of the top guys in terms of seeing the floor. He makes passes to guys that I didn't even notice were open and I have the benefit of camera angles.
[QUOTE=Dictator]I been noticed too. Great passer but other than that he sucks. His court vision is definitely top 10. For now.[/QUOTE]
He's a pretty good loose ball rebounder for a PG.
He's a decent at post-up defense but terrible against face-to-basket offense. He's also pretty good with double team defense.
The only that "sucks" for him right now is his scoring, shooting and passiveness on scoring.
Still not sure why he's not aggressive on the offensive end in terms of scoring. Even on a night where he started off 3/4, including a 3-pointer, he refuses to take more than 10 FGA.
[QUOTE=Dictator]I been noticed too. Great passer but other than that he sucks. His court vision is definitely top 10. For now.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say he sucks. I'd say his performance so far has been sucky. But he's been playing well the past few games.
its because he sees in HD. everyone else sees in SD
he's still recovering from injury
[QUOTE=DMV2]He's a pretty good loose ball rebounder for a PG.
He's a decent at post-up defense but terrible against face-to-basket offense. He's also pretty good with double team defense.
The only that "sucks" for him right now is his scoring, shooting and passiveness on scoring.
Still not sure why he's not aggressive on the offensive end in terms of scoring. Even on a night where he started off 3/4, including a 3-pointer, he refuses to take more than 10 FGA.[/QUOTE]
Probably coaching, lack of confidence, and he has Harden on his team. Lately he has been playing solid.
And, he has quick hands. He's good at getting steals.
Nash
Paul
Deron
Kidd
Andre Miller
Rubio
Rondo
Calderon
Conley
Kyle Lowry
10 pgs with better vision than Jeremy. There are also many more players with just as good or better vision.
Linsanity with the steal+dunk!!!!!
He jumped from pretty far out too.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]Nash
Paul
Deron
Kidd
Andre Miller
Rubio
Rondo
Calderon
Conley
Kyle Lowry
10 pgs with better vision than Jeremy. There are also many more players with just as good or better vision.[/QUOTE]
In terms of court vision I would put Lin ahead of Deron, Miller, Calderon, Conley and Lowry.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]Nash
Paul
Deron
Kidd
Andre Miller
Rubio
Rondo
Calderon
Conley
Kyle Lowry
10 pgs with better vision than Jeremy. There are also many more players with just as good or better vision.[/QUOTE]
You're a proven Lin hater. Fly a kite.
[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]In terms of court vision I would put Lin ahead of Deron, Miller, Calderon, Conley and Lowry.[/QUOTE]
that is just silly. Deron is top tier level when it comes to vision. Lin isn't even in the same ball park.
this whole thing is silly.
[QUOTE]You're a proven Lin hater. Fly a kite.[/QUOTE]
from the beginning I said he was Ramon Sessions, I stand by that.
i think his court vision is higher than his passing skills
[QUOTE=DMV2]
Still not sure why he's not aggressive on the offensive end in terms of scoring. Even on a night where he started off 3/4, including a 3-pointer, he refuses to take more than 10 FGA.[/QUOTE]
16 points on 7/9 shooting tonight. Could have had more than 10 assists if of the lay-ups went in for his teammates. 4 boards and 3 steals to add. Only 3 TO's.
Based on the games I've seen, he's trying to be a facilitator first than a scorer. More importantly, he's really trying to control his game instead speeding outta control like he was last year.
[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]In terms of court vision I would put Lin ahead of Deron, Miller, Calderon, Conley and Lowry.[/QUOTE]
This. Deron, Lowry and Conley are better players but Lin vision is very good.
[QUOTE=cotdt]he's still recovering from injury[/QUOTE]
Not anymore. He dunked it for the first time this season today.
SMH at people saying his court vision's better than Deron Williams...D-Will has been carving it up for years, disrespectful
i didnt think japanese could have good court vision :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=selrahc]i didnt think japanese could have good court vision :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
He's not Japanese u idiot :facepalm
[QUOTE=selrahc]i didnt think japanese could have good court vision :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
He's not Japanese u idiot :facepalm
He's Indonesian
[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]In terms of court vision I would put Lin ahead of Deron, Miller, Calderon, Conley and Lowry.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Maybe not ahead of Deron, but absolutely over the others.
He sees the floor well, but his passing skill isn't on the level of his vision.
[QUOTE=Beatlezz]He's not Japanese u idiot :facepalm
He's Indonesian[/QUOTE]
LOL thats basically the same thing
If Lin had the same amount of ball usage and freedom as he had under D'Antoni, he could easily have put up linsanity numbers tonight.
But the greatest thing about Lin is that he is a humble, team first player. With harden and parson's scoring he can focus on running the team and getting hockey assists as well as defending.
Of course box score watchers don't notice this kind of stuff, but I'm sure his team mates do.
[QUOTE=selrahc]LOL thats basically the same thing[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
[QUOTE=Money 23]Agreed.
Maybe not ahead of Deron, but absolutely over the others.
He sees the floor well, but his passing skill isn't on the level of his vision.[/QUOTE]
I think his passing skills are elite. Look at how well he threads the needle or gets the ball in the exact right spot. There was a play tonight where Asik was on the post and spun towards baseline and Lin dropped it just over the defender perfectly for Asik to get the lay up on the other side. That stuff is what makes Lin an elite passer.
His vision and passing skills are elite...his decision making sometimes could be better and he needs to work on getting HIMSELF in better position.
[QUOTE=DMV2]16 points on 7/9 shooting tonight. Could have had more than 10 assists if of the lay-ups went in for his teammates. 4 boards and 3 steals to add. Only 3 TO's.
Based on the games I've seen, he's trying to be a facilitator first than a scorer. More importantly, he's really trying to control his game instead speeding outta control like he was last year.[/QUOTE]
D'Antoni's system encourages that crazy uptempo style. His system also spreads the floor with shooters everywhere which opens up lanes especially on the wings in transition. Lin isn't a great slasher so without that spacing its much harder to do what he was doing as a Knick.
I agree that he's trying to control his game though. I think he's understanding his role more and more as the season is progressing.
Lin is better than Kobe.
[QUOTE=Beatlezz]He's not Japanese u idiot :facepalm
He's Indonesian[/QUOTE]
Do you guys think Asia is all the same?
His parents are from Taiwan. There are 48-50+ countries in Asia and they are not all the same..
This is what makes people dislike hearing about Lin. He's been putrid all season, then when he puts a couple of decent games together, all of a sudden threads start appearing like this.
Can he actually play more games, and show more consistency, before people start making claims about "elite" skills?
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]This is what makes people dislike hearing about Lin. He's been putrid all season, then when he puts a couple of decent games together, all of a sudden threads start appearing like this.
Can he actually play more games, and show more consistency, before people start making claims about "elite" skills?[/QUOTE]
Except if you actually watched him play this season you'd realise that the passing and vision isn't something new that has just appeared in the last two games, he's been doing it pretty much since game one barring the 4-6 game stretch where he was not handling the ball at all while the team adjusted their offensive style.
He has also significantly improved his transition play since last season where he hardly ever turns over the ball in transition now, whereas this was something he did do from time to time in trying to make the hero pass with the knicks.
The only difference in the last two games is that his shot has been falling. Other than that the rest of his play, passing, vision, rebounding, defending and steals has been there all season long. But it's still a very small sample size, either to laud or to damn him.
But you're going to hate no matter what anyway.
[QUOTE=Klazart]Except if you actually watched him play this season you'd realise that the passing and vision isn't something new that has just appeared in the last two games, he's been doing it pretty much since game one barring the 4-6 game stretch where he was not handling the ball at all while the team adjusted their offensive style.
He has also significantly improved his transition play since last season where he hardly ever turns over the ball in transition now, whereas this was something he did do from time to time in trying to make the hero pass with the knicks.
The only difference in the last two games is that his shot has been falling. Other than that the rest of his play, passing, vision, rebounding, defending and steals has been there all season long. But it's still a very small sample size, either to laud or to damn him.
But you're going to hate no matter what anyway.[/QUOTE]
I don't "hate" anyone, I dislike hype.
He's been bad for most of the season, so let's see more good games before undue praise is given.
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]I don't "hate" anyone, I dislike hype.
He's been bad for most of the season, so let's see more good games before undue praise is given.[/QUOTE]
Except that in regards to the specific topic of his passing ability and court vision he has been very good, which you would know if you bothered to actually watch him play.
I don't know why I wasted my time writing out a detailed reply to a hater like you in the first place. I guess maybe because someone who is objective might read it and your erroneous statements will be noted as such by said observers.
[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]In terms of court vision I would put Lin ahead of Deron, Miller, Calderon, Conley and Lowry.[/QUOTE]
LOL over Lowry MAYBE but Deron and Miller [B]NOT EVEN CLOSE[/B] Calderon and Conley hes below but not via landslide and Lowry maybe because Lowry is a more attacking/ defensie type PG
[QUOTE=Klazart]Except that in regards to the specific topic of his passing ability and court vision he has been very good, which you would know if you bothered to actually watch him play.
I don't know why I wasted my time writing out a detailed reply to a hater like you in the first place. I guess maybe because someone who is objective might read it and your erroneous statements will be noted as such by said observers.[/QUOTE]
Feel free not to "waste your time" responding to any of my posts in the future. Your fanboyism is annoying, and does nothing but add to the general dislike of Lin threads on the board.
As a starting point guard, Lin is supposed to display good court vision and awareness. Has he developed this to the point where he can be considered "elite"? No.
Time will tell if that will happen.
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]This is what makes people dislike hearing about Lin. He's been putrid all season, then when he puts a couple of decent games together, all of a sudden threads start appearing like this.
Can he actually play more games, and show more consistency, before people start making claims about "elite" skills?[/QUOTE]
Coming from someone doing the exact same thing, where he plays 1 bad game and you make a ton of posts calling him out for it :rolleyes:
I have been surprised by his court vision and passing so far. His 6.4 APG isn't outstanding and his decisionmaking isn't that great, but he sees openings and has really thrown some nice passes this season. He sees cutters and has good timing on his passes. I wouldn't call it elite, but it has been great, unlike other aspects of his game.