They just lost to the Sixers, and are just 1 game ahead of the lakers
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They just lost to the Sixers, and are just 1 game ahead of the lakers
Louie it's not a perfect roster but I think some of it is just a bad luck. They lost to the Cleveland Cavalier on a last seconds buzzer beater by Max Strus. In their four point lose to the Sixers they shoot 8 less free throws than Philly, if that was reverse they might win. If those games go the other way they will be something like 10-2 in their last 12 so I will not write them off yet.
Luka is lazy and selfish.
Kidd is dumb.
Perfect usage of "ain't" :applause:
[QUOTE=90sgoat;14889494]Luka is lazy and selfish.
Kidd is dumb.[/QUOTE]
And Kyrie has had a couple missed shots or bad plays in the final moments of recent games.
The team as a whole doesn't defend hard enough. Offensively the pairing does work, everyone else doesn't have much output but those two are efficient even at high volume so it works. It's the defense.
Really the core of Dallas issues is wasted resources.
They let Brunson go for nothing and traded Porzingis for Spencer Dinwiddie (no longer on the team, was salary fodder for Irving trade) and Davis Bertrans (who?). The raw asset waste there has them at an overall talent disadvantage. Even if you call Irving for Brunson an equal replacement the loss of value of Porzingis is immense on paper. You look at what the Celtics get out of him and can only wonder how the things he can do somehow didn't help Dallas. He protects the rim and is a great shooter by the standards of his position while also an athletic finisher, just not that strong. But they decided he was worthless and traded him for possibly a fifth of his worth. Some very bad management has taken place.
That said they are still a likely playoff
team and aside from one team the West is better than the East. As a duo they aren't bad unless your standard is championship or bust.
Someone should JFK this stat padding clown...
Nice missed lay up on the fast break. God forbid you pass to the guy running up the floor with you, ****ing moron.
[QUOTE=SATAN;14889875]Nice missed lay up on the fast break. God forbid you pass to the guy running up the floor with you, ****ing moron.[/QUOTE]
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm under the impression that James Harden is one of your favorite players. If that is the case, why hate on one extremely ball dominant superstar that doesn't play any defense and love the other? Aside from Harden's free throw baiting they're very similar.
[QUOTE=SATAN;14889864]Someone should JFK this stat padding clown...[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
What the ****, chill out you psycho
Don't bother passing it. Just get your stats up. That'll do the trick. Yay, nearly 40 point triple double while almost being being the sole cause for the L. Good for you. :rolleyes:
Satan turning into smoke
At least prime Westbrook was entertaining.
And there's your triple dub. I hope you're proud of yourself. Bench this clown and get Exum back in.
Who on the Mavericks is in realistic consideration for the defensive teams?
Answer: Nobody
Who on the Mavericks can teammates look to for leadership?
Answer: Nobody
[QUOTE=SATAN;14889883]And there's your triple dub. I hope you're proud of yourself. Bench this clown and get Exum back in.[/QUOTE]
Dante :roll:
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14889878]Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm under the impression that James Harden is one of your favorite players. If that is the case, why hate on one extremely ball dominant superstar that doesn't play any defense and love the other? Aside from Harden's free throw baiting they're very similar.[/QUOTE]
Very talented but not one of my favorite players. I was accused of being Loney (a Harden stan) and ran with it for a while.
Prime Harden>>>Luka btw
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14889526]The team as a whole doesn't defend hard enough.
They let Brunson go for nothing and traded Porzingis for Spencer Dinwiddie (no longer on the team, was salary fodder for Irving trade) and Davis Bertrans (who?). The raw asset waste there has them at an overall talent disadvantage. Even if you call Irving for Brunson an equal replacement the loss of value of Porzingis is immense on paper. .[/QUOTE]
Trading away Dorian Finney-Smith was a huge mistake by "Nico" the shoe salesman who, like Cuban, is one of the most incompetent people ever to be in the NBA.
Dorian Finney-Smith was the heart on that team.
DFS was also one of Luka's best friends on the team. While DFS wasn't a great defender, he played hard and always hustled and most importantly, he made Luka hustle and play defense too.
It's pretty obvious that none of the new guys like Luka. There's none of the having fun like the old team used to do. Guys are getting shipped out, Zingis gone, Javale gone, Curry gone, Dinwiddie gone, Brunson gone, DFS gone, Reggie Bullock gone.
Everyone's gone, all that's left are journeymen like Gafford, PJ Washington, Kyrie, THJ.
The truth is that all the fingers are beginning to point at one person. One person that can't get along, can't get along with Zingis, can't get along with Brunson, can't get along with anyone. Someone that refuses to play defense, complains every call, is lazy and out of shape.
Luka has revealed himself as selfish player.
Brunson must be so glad to be out of this dude's shadow. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=90sgoat;14889900]Trading away Dorian Finney-Smith was a huge mistake by "Nico" the shoe salesman who, like Cuban, is one of the most incompetent people ever to be in the NBA.
Dorian Finney-Smith was the heart on that team.
DFS was also one of Luka's best friends on the team. While DFS wasn't a great defender, he played hard and always hustled and most importantly, he made Luka hustle and play defense too.
It's pretty obvious that none of the new guys like Luka. There's none of the having fun like the old team used to do. Guys are getting shipped out, Zingis gone, Javale gone, Curry gone, Dinwiddie gone, Brunson gone, DFS gone, Reggie Bullock gone.
Everyone's gone, all that's left are journeymen like Gafford, PJ Washington, Kyrie, THJ.
The truth is that all the fingers are beginning to point at one person. One person that can't get along, can't get along with Zingis, can't get along with Brunson, can't get along with anyone. Someone that refuses to play defense, complains every call, is lazy and out of shape.
Luka has revealed himself as selfish player.[/QUOTE]
Dallas needs to draft Bronny so they can sign Bron, and let The Chosen One teach Luka how to be a champion. The way he did with AD and Ree and Love and Bosh, and even Wade if we're really being honest who was kind of a supporting player to The Diesel in 06 so I dont count that as a ring for him.
Don Solo needs his LeYoda.
(Not sure if I got that reference right, I'm not super well versed in The Star Wars.)
Luka has an extremely low basketball iq. He will never win. White harden
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14889905]Luka has an extremely low basketball iq. He will never win. White harden[/QUOTE]
It's not the IQ, he's just an egomaniac.
People just didn't see it because was 21 years old and smiling all the time. Well, now he's 25 and about to get his second coach fired and miss the playoffs for two straight seasons.
I'd say he has the worst from both Harden and Iverson, rapidly approaching Melo.
Duo is working. They just don't play defense and tend to fall apart when Luka sits on the bench.
They had a better and more balanced team 2 years ago during their WCF and they inexplicably decided to blow it up.
Duo is working very well. Their problem is their 3rd best player is Daniel Gafford.
And they don't even start him.
[QUOTE=dankok8;14889986]Duo is working. They just don't play defense and tend to fall apart when Luka sits on the bench.
They had a better and more balanced team 2 years ago during their WCF and they inexplicably decided to blow it up.[/QUOTE]
The offensive fit is working surprisingly well but when they're both on the court it's too much of a defensive hole. It's why they seem to be staggering minutes now. I don't know if it's even possible to make it work on that end with them two together.
What?
They can beat anyone lol
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14890113]What?
They can beat anyone lol[/QUOTE] In a single game, yes. In a series, no. They aren't getting past the second round and that will remain true until they find a way to be at least average defensively.
[QUOTE=FKAri;14890109]The offensive fit is working surprisingly well but when they're both on the court it's too much of a defensive hole. It's why they seem to be staggering minutes now. I don't know if it's even possible to make it work on that end with them two together.[/QUOTE]
Team wise it makes the most sense to bring Ree off the bench, but you know it will turn into massive drama if they ask him to do it.
[QUOTE=Mask the Embiid;14889905]Luka has an extremely low basketball iq. He will never win. White harden[/QUOTE]
Luka will never win..... except for that year when he got to the conference finals which Embiid has never done.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14890126]Luka will never win..... except for that year when he got to the conference finals which Embiid has never done.[/QUOTE]
Brunson.
[QUOTE=90sgoat;14890129]Brunson.[/QUOTE]
Brunson averaged 21 with 4 assists in the playoffs that year. He was good but Luka averaged 36/10/8 with better efficiency.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14890131]Brunson averaged 21 with 4 assists in the playoffs that year. He was good but Luka averaged 36/10/8 with better efficiency.[/QUOTE]
Brunson is a leader, unlike Luka.
[QUOTE=90sgoat;14890136]Brunson is a leader, unlike Luka.[/QUOTE]
The scoreboard doesn't care who the leader is.
The scoreboard says Luka has been the leading scorer in the playoffs the last two seasons he got there.
It's probably time for luka to go on another team.
not enough talent and defense around them. the duo plays really well but you cant compete with the celtics or nuggets or even wolves starting 5 or the big 3 of a team like clips/thunder. bucks have middleton/lopez as their 3rd and 4th guy mavs have lively and like pj washington
[QUOTE=90sgoat;14889908]It's not the IQ, he's just an egomaniac.
People just didn't see it because was 21 years old and smiling all the time. Well, now he's 25 and about to get his second coach fired and miss the playoffs for two straight seasons.
I'd say he has the worst from both Harden and Iverson, [B]rapidly approaching Melo.[/B][/QUOTE]
Cmon man, that's too much. He already made a conference finals, but I agree he is a massive asshole that people don't like playing with.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14890137]The scoreboard doesn't care who the leader is.
The scoreboard says Luka has been the leading scorer in the playoffs the last two seasons he got there.[/QUOTE]
Yeah and that results say that one guy made the SF conference finals while the other during the playoffs was..
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[QUOTE=dankok8;14889986]Duo is working. They just don't play defense and tend to fall apart when Luka sits on the bench.
They had a better and more balanced team 2 years ago during their WCF and they inexplicably decided to blow it up.[/QUOTE]
No they don't. +2 with him on and -2 with him off. Jokic for example is +10 on and -10 off. That's what falling apart actually looks like.
[QUOTE=hold this L;14890263]
No they don't. +2 with him on and -2 with him off. Jokic for example is +10 on and -10 off. That's what falling apart actually looks like.[/QUOTE]
He has a +6.3 Net Rating and is the 3rd most impactful player in the league currently in terms of EPM (+7.5), ahead of Jokic (+6.6). Jokic is actually worse on defense according to EPM.
They're a +5.5 when Kyrie and Luka are both on the court, and -9.7 with both on the bench. The defense barely improves (~2 points per 100) while the offense falls apart when Luka's on the bench overall.
I don't respect any player that refuses to play defense, because then you expect everyone else to pick up the slack and that's just feeling as if you're better than everyone else.
Even Lebron played defense. Magic tried, Bird hustled, Kobe tried until his knees were shot, MJ tried, Barkley rebounded and tried, Shaq tried.
There's no all time great who didn't try playing defense. Lots of top 30 guys who would have been top 10-ish if they played defense.
[QUOTE=90sgoat;14890339]I don't respect any player that refuses to play defense, because then you expect everyone else to pick up the slack and that's just feeling as if you're better than everyone else.
Even Lebron played defense. Magic tried, Bird hustled, Kobe tried until his knees were shot, MJ tried, Barkley rebounded and tried, Shaq tried.
There's no all time great who didn't try playing defense. Lots of top 30 guys who would have been top 10-ish if they played defense.[/QUOTE]
Yep! I at least need effort at both ends of the floor if not results