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I would take him as high as 4 to Seattle. Has unbelieveable potential. Became great with a player on his back and in his face. Freakishly athletic. He's blowing minds at workouts, and rising fast on draft boards. Improving ball handling and increasing his range.
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For all the haters...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcQC0fBAbvY[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQXIbHpMTyE[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PKY3ashUMI&feature=related[/url]
that is going a little too far
i was just about to make a thread about how rose is the best athlete to come along into the draft since lebron- imo rose is the only prospect that could be considered for best athlete-
but after rose, i like westbrook & aurthur as the cream of the crop athleticaly
i like the thought of alexander as a lottery pick,and wasnt aware that he is as athletic as is sounds-
i had him sliding all the way to 26 to the rockets- sounds like he is moving much higher than that though- how about 23- orlando, 17-toronto, or portland/phoenix at 13/15
this guy alexander is a pure nba 3 imo- the weakest position in this years draft- only other pure 3 i even have on my list is davon jefferson- the rest are all imo sf/pf's like gallnari& donte green or pf/sf's like beasley , randolph - and i think batum is a sg & really think that buddinger and bill walker and rush are all pure sg's
so maybe alexander could be a top 10 pick- i had just never thought of it- i still see him in the teens to 20's
is this a joke?
Alexander will be lucky to go in the 1st round.
Step off the bandwagon before it even gets started,
[QUOTE=KNOW1EDGE]is this a joke?
Alexander will be lucky to go in the 1st round.
Step off the bandwagon before it even gets started,[/QUOTE]
Lucky to go in the 1st round?
Don't be a h8er... He will be a good player.
[QUOTE=jamal99]Lucky to go in the 1st round?
Don't be a h8er... He will be a good player.[/QUOTE]
Im not a hater, not at all. I like the kid.
But I dont know when all this hype around him started, he played pretty well in the tournament but nothing amazing. Nothing to boost him into the lottery.
He will go in the 1st round. But unless he REALLY amazes, and i mean REALLY amazes some people in the pre-draft workouts, he wont be a lotto pick.
[QUOTE=KNOW1EDGE]is this a joke?
Alexander will be lucky to go in the 1st round.
Step off the bandwagon before it even gets started,[/QUOTE]
You're insane. I GUARUNTEE he doesn't fall past 16.
And yeah, I may have went too far saying he's overall the best, but he's definitely the best leaper.
[QUOTE=d_white089]You're insane. I GUARUNTEE he doesn't fall past 16.
And yeah, I may have went too far saying he's overall the best, but he's definitely the best leaper.[/QUOTE]
Who says? Who says he is "def the best leaper"?????
I think he is a definate lock for the 1st round. But I am def not hopping on his bandwagon. He doesnt seem special to me.
If Indy weren't loaded at the wing already, I'd consider him at #11.
There's no way in hell this kid is the best overall athlete in the draft. Hell, Sonny Weems is a better athlete than Joe Alexander.
he definately doesnt look bad
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdAYyqSOuPc[/url]
[QUOTE=fatboy11]There's no way in hell this kid is the best overall athlete in the draft. Hell, Sonny Weems is a better athlete than Joe Alexander.[/QUOTE]
from what i've been reading and what i've seen, alexander may be the best pure athlete in the draft...he is definitely the best athlete at the SF position i think with chase budinger a close second...there are some great athletes in this draft
PG: rose, bayless, westbrook
SG/SF: alexander, budinger, rush
PF/C: beasley, arthur, speights, jefferson, jordan
Joe Alexander is a good athlete but I could not call him the 'best in the draft'.
Dude is 6'8" with pretty good hops and handles; he really fits the SF role very well at the pro level. I could see someone picking him up @ 14-20 but top 4? get real, he doesn't have [I]that much[/I] potential. He has decent potential but I don't see him being anything more than starter-worthy at best. If he works on his game he should have a good career in the NBA, but don't expect so much out of him that warrents a top 4 pick
[QUOTE=Efunk7]from what i've been reading and what i've seen, alexander may be the best pure athlete in the draft...he is definitely the best athlete at the SF position i think with chase budinger a close second...there are some great athletes in this draft
PG: rose, bayless, westbrook
SG/SF: alexander, budinger, rush
PF/C: beasley, arthur, speights, jefferson, jordan[/QUOTE]
I can agree that he is the best pure athlete at SF, I think he is def. better than Budinger and Rush (I love Rush's game tho).
From what I hear Joe has a very good work ethic, so he should succeed. However he still needs to put in a lot of work. His best selling point right now is his athleticism and size combo. That and his mid-range game, which has greatly improved this past year and a main reason he is even being discussed as a lotto pick. In college he has been able to take many defenders off the dribble very well, but his handles are gonna need a lot of work for him to play from the outside in the pros. If a team wants him to eventually play some inside game, he is gonna need to get a lot stronger and work on his boxing out; he doesn't have much of a post game to speak of, but with his height he could eventually do it (but probably not).
[QUOTE=MochaUdoka]I can agree that he is the best pure athlete at SF, I think he is def. better than Budinger and Rush (I love Rush's game tho).
From what I hear Joe has a very good work ethic, so he should succeed. However he still needs to put in a lot of work. His best selling point right now is his athleticism and size combo. That and his mid-range game, which has greatly improved this past year and a main reason he is even being discussed as a lotto pick. In college he has been able to take many defenders off the dribble very well, but his handles are gonna need a lot of work for him to play from the outside in the pros. If a team wants him to eventually play some inside game, he is gonna need to get a lot stronger and work on his boxing out; he doesn't have much of a post game to speak of, but with his height he could eventually do it (but probably not).[/QUOTE]
i tend to agree, and i see him being able to at least reach the level josh smith is currently at...6'9" sf/pf combo with great athleticism and developing perimeter game...
[QUOTE=MochaUdoka]Joe Alexander is a good athlete but I could not call him the 'best in the draft'.
Dude is 6'8" with pretty good hops and handles; he really fits the SF role very well at the pro level. I could see someone picking him up @ 14-20 but top 4? get real, he doesn't have [I]that much[/I] potential. He has decent potential but I don't see him being anything more than starter-worthy at best. If he works on his game he should have a good career in the NBA, but don't expect so much out of him that warrents a top 4 pick[/QUOTE]
I didn't say he WOULD be drafted there..i say i would potentially CONSIDER him there if I were an NBA team, which i'm not.
Here ya go haters...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcQC0fBAbvY[/url]
[QUOTE=KNOW1EDGE]Who says? Who says he is "def the best leaper"?????
I think he is a definate lock for the 1st round. But I am def not hopping on his bandwagon. He doesnt seem special to me.[/QUOTE]
I thought he would be lucky to go in the first man?...I"ll be checking the board for your astute opinion.
Bill Walker's a pretty crazy athlete.
[QUOTE=Efunk7]from what i've been reading and what i've seen, alexander may be the best pure athlete in the draft...he is definitely the best athlete at the SF position i think with chase budinger a close second...there are some great athletes in this draft
PG: rose, bayless, westbrook
SG/SF: alexander, budinger, rush
PF/C: beasley, arthur, speights, jefferson, jordan[/QUOTE]Sonny Weems is more athletic than Brandon Rush. Any day of the week.
Better player? No. Better athlete? Yes.
[QUOTE=d_white089]Here ya go haters...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcQC0fBAbvY[/url][/QUOTE][URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIp40WgQXi0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIp40WgQXi0[/URL]
Checkmate.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACR-9vrK09w[/url]
according to chad ford from espn,joe alexander has recorded a 44" vertical. i think thats gotta be bogus but he does have some hops. he also said marreese speights has abused him in las vegas workouts. he won't go higher than 11,but he wont drop below 17
[QUOTE=disco][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACR-9vrK09w[/url][/QUOTE]
That dunk was sick.
[QUOTE=fatboy11]That dunk was sick.[/QUOTE]
Even though Ewing didn't even start for Georgetown, I think he'll get drafted. He has great basketball IQ and is a great athlete. He also improved his shot quite a lot in the last two seasons. And his name won't probably do him any harm either...
[QUOTE=Posterize246]according to chad ford from espn,joe alexander has recorded a 44" vertical. i think thats gotta be bogus but he does have some hops. he also said marreese speights has abused him in las vegas workouts. he won't go higher than 11,but he wont drop below 17[/QUOTE]
That's a lie. Here's the article
Alexander's athleticism is jaw-dropping. He has a huge vertical jump and explodes off the floor. He has a little scar on his forehead just above his eyes where he hit his head on the rim in a dunk contest.
Where his leaping ability is really impressive is on his jump shot. He gets unbelievable elevation on his jumper. His jump shot is really a jump shot. With his huge leaping ability and high release -- it's virtually impossible to block.
Alexander showed excellent range on his jumper, draining NBA 3s with ease and showing a solid ability to shoot off the dribble. He still scissor-kicks a bit when he shoots which can throw him off balance, but as he smoothes out his form, he looks to be a deadly shooter.
People looking at his shaky 3-point shooting percentages in college might disagree with that assessment. He has not been a very accurate 3-point shooter in games.
That held somewhat true in a three-on-three matchup that pitted
Alexander versus Florida's Marreese Speights. Alexander struggled with Speights' height advantage and missed the majority of his shots. [B]However, he warmed up a little at the end and hit a few big shots down the stretch for his team.[/B]
Anyway that has nothing to do with his leaping ability
[QUOTE=disco]Even though Ewing didn't even start for Georgetown, I think he'll get drafted. He has great basketball IQ and is a great athlete. He also improved his shot quite a lot in the last two seasons. And his name won't probably do him any harm either...[/QUOTE]I agree.
Even if he doesn't get drafted, he'll be in camp with someone. He's in a tough position. He's not anywhere near as good as his father was, but he's still a good basketball player and could be NBA-caliber. It sucks because people don't see that most of the time. They just focus on him not being as good as Pat.
Joe Alexander seems like a gerald wallace to me if he really strives hard.
[QUOTE=fatboy11]Sonny Weems is more athletic than Brandon Rush. Any day of the week.
Better player? No. Better athlete? Yes.[/QUOTE]
good call on weems...i also forgout about giddens...
[QUOTE=Posterize246]according to chad ford from espn,joe alexander has recorded a 44" vertical. i think thats gotta be bogus but he does have some hops. he also said marreese speights has abused him in las vegas workouts. he won't go higher than 11,but he wont drop below 17[/QUOTE]
i dont think he has 44" off a straight 2-footed vert, but i think he comes close off of an approach...
from draftexpress:
"Any question about just how freakishly athletic he is vertically were answered as we watched him perform a series of highlight reel caliber dunks as the day of workouts came to a close—360s, off the backboard, windmills, the Vince Carter “honey-dip“/elbow inside the rim, between the legs, taking off from a step inside the free throw line, he visibly wowed each and every one of the players on the sidelines with his antics. Just for good measure, he finished off by jogging lightly towards the basket, jumping off two feet and viciously head-butting the rim, as you can see in the photo. "
[IMG]http://www.draftexpress.com/gallery/General/1211177907.jpg[/IMG]
Alexander is going to be the guy in this draft that goes around 8-16 pick and is the player that all the teams 3 through 7 or so wish they would have taken. He is legit. He has a nice shot, can finish, can post up, can handle, can play D. I could justify taking him as high as 6.
[QUOTE=Efunk7]i dont think he has 44" off a straight 2-footed vert, but i think he comes close off of an approach...
from draftexpress:
"Any question about just how freakishly athletic he is vertically were answered as we watched him perform a series of highlight reel caliber dunks as the day of workouts came to a close
[QUOTE=meanmonster]Alexander is going to be the guy in this draft that goes around 8-16 pick and is the player that all the teams 3 through 7 or so wish they would have taken. He is legit. He has a nice shot, can finish, can post up, can handle, can play D. I could justify taking him as high as 6.[/QUOTE]
THANK YOU.
It'll be interesting to see where Alexander goes in the draft. If the draft was tomorrow, I think he would be picked in the teens somewhere.
the nba is really getting too far into drafting 19 year old freshman. had this guy been a sophomore his stock would be up a little more
I really liked Alexander in the Big East and NCAA tournaments, but watching him dominating purely because of his physical superiority against college small forwards made me think are his skills actually anywhere near the NBA level. He's first step is nice, but not that quick in the NBA level. He was able to finish in traffic against 6'8 - 6'9 big men, but can he take it to the basket against NBA big men? He has a pretty good shot, but does he have NBA range? He doesn't have very good handle, or skills in general. Also, he's turning 22 this year, and is there definitely that much upside or did he develop this year to max his potential?
I like him, but is his stock a bit too high? One great month and pretty good physical attributes shouldn't make anyone a lock lottery pick.
I really like Alexander is some respects, but he has a few major flaws.
Shooting is of course #1. If he wants to be a full time starter in the league, he needs to be able to shoot. He can score in so many other ways, but making 25% of 3's in the NBA won't cut it. The other is creating his own shot. He is athletic, and has a lot of moves, but you can't give him the ball behind the 3pt line and tell him to score. Those two things together make you wonder how he is going to score in the NBA. I think Phoenix would be the perfect place for him because even a guy like Marion can score 20ppg with them. Not that Marion isn't very good, but he needs to be set up to score like Alexander. I see NBAdraft.net has the Bucks taking him which would be a horrible fit because they don't have anyone to set up his scoring.
But just to prove him not a hater, if he can develop a good, consistant outside shot in the next couple years, I could see a more athletic version of Paul Pierce. He can get to the basket, handle contact, good mid-range game, creative at getting his shots off, and plays with intensity. The thing that stands out however, is that Pierce can set up his game by hitting outside shots.
Actually Alexander has pretty good range, and is said to be shooting the NBA 3 well in workouts. He was rarely behind the 3 point line at WVU, which may make his shooting % deceiving.
[QUOTE=d_white089]Actually Alexander has pretty good range, and is said to be shooting the NBA 3 well in workouts. He was rarely behind the 3 point line at WVU, which may make his shooting % deceiving.[/QUOTE]
idk. he only shot about 40 3s this year so his % COULD be deceiving. but he only shot 30% his sophomore year and he launched 131 of them. id think that if he had good range he wouldnt have been bashful about shooting them his junior year.he sure wasnt his sophomore
He is a completely different player between those 2 years. His sophmore year he had an awful coach that would rather see 45 threes shot per game than running a decent system. His coach this year knows how to mold players to fulfill their potential and be ready for the NBA. I'm not saying he's Sasha Vujacic or Ray Allen shooting wise, but he can hold his own.
[QUOTE=d_white089]He is a completely different player between those 2 years. His sophmore year he had an awful coach that would rather see 45 threes shot per game than running a decent system. His coach this year knows how to mold players to fulfill their potential and be ready for the NBA. I'm not saying he's Sasha Vujacic or Ray Allen shooting wise, but he can hold his own.[/QUOTE]
huggins taught him how to play down low a lot more and how to use his athleticism and size a lot more.but i dont see anything that would prove he has become a better shooter.just a more all around playr