FYI guys....Carney measured in at 6'4.5" without shoes..and 6'5 3/4" with shoes. NO WAY he plays SF in the NBA. He'll be a SG in the pros and right now he doesn't have a very good jump shot. He's lightning fast and a freak athlete though so that will help. I don't know why they keep saying he's a SF. He's Eddie Basdens height. Ronnie Brewer is an inch taller, 20 lbs heavier and just as athletic if not more athletic. I'd take Brewer in a heartbeat over Carney, however, I think both will be good pros. And what is the big deal about Tyrus Thomas...he's shorter than Deng! Isn't that crazy?