Clippers aren't contenders yet.
They are a solid 4,5,6 seed team... probably slightly better than the Grizzlies at the moment.
The nice thing about the Clippers though is they have the POTENTIAL to become contenders because while having a nice veteran base they have two players (Kaman, Livingston) that can be possible all-stars.
Livingston especially, if he fufill even 70-80% of his promise, can push the Clippers to contender status.
Suns... man they are such a question mark until Amare proves his injury isn't too debilitating.
Even if his athleticism is stunted they will still be a very good team... but not contenders IMO.
If he does get it all back... then they are contenders for sure.