Originally Posted by Legend of Josh
What do you mean how do I know? Look at the success of the Ravens since he's been under center. Like I keep admitting, give the defense the majority of the credit, and their true offensive powerhouse is Ray Rice, but you don't just win that many post season games, make two AFC title games in less than five years, etc without being a damn good football player, who finds ways to "win" - that's how we know.
Would Flacco be less successful on another team? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe he'd be better (I'm not saying probable, just possible; he plays for the Ravens, and not another team so there's no point in even trying to discuss that. Let's just judge him for what he's done in Baltimore).
You keep talking about stats... like total TD, total yards, QBR, but any head coach, GM or owner doesn't really care about all that bullshit if you're winning games. Winning is what matters, but nerds like you swear by stats and seemingly ignore the bottom line, which is wins... not "OMG, Flacco will never have a 5k yard season; he'll never throw 35 TDs, he's just not any good!"
You talked about Flacco being the "good" and "bad" version... and yeah well, you can sure as hell make that argument for the inconsistent Eli Manning, and to a lesser extent, Big Ben. Let's not pretend Flacco is the only enigmatic QB out there.
In one of his playoff wins he completed 9 out of 3 balls for 135 yards. And he won. On the Road.
He completed 4 balls for 34 yards and tossed an int against NE Pats and still won. ON THE ROAD.
You sure do give a lot of credit to Flacco, calling him a "winner," yet he hasn't even made the superbowl, much less win a superbowl.
How does that work again? Winners find a way to win, your words not mine...so why then, has he ended each year of his career with a loss and not a superbowl victory? How can he outplay Tom Brady last year, some would say severely outplaying him....yet he lost.
Could it be.....there are 51 other active players and numerous coaches that contribute heavily to wins and loses? Noooo, that couldn't be it. Joe is a winner! He finds a way to win....yet has no titles.
BTW, I never said there wasn't a good and bad Eli, but you're the one saying Flacco "is better and more consistent," which is just patently false.
Big Ben is way more consistent than both.
Get your facts straight.