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Old 01-25-2013, 12:57 AM   #38
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Default Re: Better floor leader: Jordan or Magic?

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Originally Posted by Round Mound
MJ Was NEVER a Great Floor Leader. Some Stans Here Think He Is Perfect ore Some Shi-t Like That . Jordan Started Off as a Scorer and Later On Developed Better Play Making Skills But They Did Not Come Natural Like It Did for Magic and Bird. They Knew How To Make Their Players Better From Day 1.

Its Magic all the way people.

Exactly.

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"Scottie was our team leader. He was the guy that directed our offense and he was the guy that took on a lot of big challenges defensively...the year that Michael retired, Scottie I think was the most valuable player in the league. He was probably the player most liked by others. He mingled. He brought out the best in players and communicated the best. Leadership, real leadership is one of his strengths. Everybody says Michael was a great leader. He led by example, by rebuke, by harsh words. Scottie's leadership was equally dominant, but a leadership of patting on the back, of support." - Phil Jackson

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And, above all, Pippen was one of the best practitioners of team defense that the league has ever seen. On many occasions, Phil Jackson would question a player about why he had not adhered to the pre-game script by failing to double a designated scorer or "half" a defensive rotation. The player's response would usually be, "Scottie told me to do something different."

PJ would then shrug, nod and say, "Okay."


On offense, Pippen was an excellent finisher who made up in finesse and speed what he lacked in power. He also was a quick study, who mastered every intricacy of the triangle in record time.

His shot was a tad flat, making him an erratic jump-shooter. And at least once every game, Pippen would take a too-quick, too-long shot that would drive his coaches nuts. That's because he always yearned for more touches.

Also, since MJ was extremely harsh on teammates who made mistakes, it was Pippen whom his teammates sought out to soothe their bruised egos.

To civilians, Pippen was irresponsible, aloof and occasionally semi-antagonistic. But to his peers, he was always accessible and well-liked.--Charlie Rosen

People keep conflating taking 25 shots a game with leadership. The qualities leadership requires have no correlation to one's ability to toss a ball into a hoop. Yeah, the greater the player the greater the credibility he has, but to simply assume player's leadership skills correlates to their basketball ability ignores the realities of leadership, and indeed, human nature. For all we know the locker room leader of some teams may be the 7th man. Jordan's style of leadership was inherently limiting. It had a place--and worked well in combination with Pippen's different style--but there simply are inherent limits to a critical, harsh style of leadership. Imagine you had two co-workers: one offered you reinforcement and positive criticism to improve you while the other simply told you how much you sucked when you made a mistake? Who would you gravitate to? MJ was such a jerk that for years his teammates hated him, as was documented in the Jordan Rules. Players would move away from him on the bench when he left the game. Yet people act as if he was the basketball version of Lincoln combined with Washington?

Jordan being compared to Magic freaking Johnson on leadership is another classic example of how overrated Jordan is due to the MJ mythology.

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