I think a top 12 debate could be made. It would be right on the edge of that. Grant Hill was by far a better SF in his prime. He was absolutely amazing before that injury. I agree Kombo, Drummond does seem like he's going to be really fun to watch. I just wish he could get a few more minutes. He's been producing. I want to see more. I have a feeling we'll be getting someone pretty good soon too. That person could be here for a while so it could be we all have a few new favorite Pistons by this time next year. I feel like next year is the year we have a winning team again. Joe D needs to be smart with this cap space. Without winning the fans have been fairweather and aren't supporting the team. That means they aren't making the money they want to. I think that will motivate them to make some good moves.