Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
Duncan has been the Spurs best player this year and highest impact player this year IMO. Hell some have taken to say he's been the best bigman in the game. I have yet to hear a single person NOT call Chris Paul the best PG this year in the NBA. Chris Paul has been a better player than Tony Parker every single year of his career.
21 ppg, 7.5 apg, 3 rpg for Parker in 33 minutes.
17 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 3 apg, 3 bpg in just 30 minutes a game for Duncan as the team's defensive anchor.
Both have identical win shares and similar impact metrics but Duncan again has more value to the success of the Spurs due to his defense.
Missing 12 games doesn't disqualify you from an MVP race and Paul's absence proved exactly why he's the true MVP of the league. Take Parker off the Spurs and they are just fine. Take CP3 off the Clippers and they fell apart bad DESPITE having one of the best backup PG's.
Paul is a better player, is more important to his team than Parker... therefor he's a much stronger MVP candidate. The teams are so close record wise that that's negligible.
Yea, but there's no argument for Duncan. I'm not trying to be all sure of my opinion, but there is no argument. It's like someone trying to argue Griffin on your team. There's no argument. Parker has been better than Duncan every step of the way. Duncan is the beneficiary of Parker much more than Parker is of Duncan. He's an anchor but he's not Gasol or Noah this year. Parker is their #1 playmaker and he runs their offense. Duncan still gets some assists abut the offense doesn't begin to go thru him. It all goes thru Parker. He's their guy throughout the game. He's their guy down the stretch of games. When Manu is on the floor with Parker, Duncan becomes the 3rd guy.
And, just as with Paul, Duncan has missed 12 games. You say that Parker is not that important to the Spurs...not to suggest this about Duncan, but the Spurs are 10-2 without him. BTW, one of those losses is when the big 3 were out, along with Danny Green, in Miami.
By your argument, that says a lot (in comparison) about his impact on the Spurs.
It's not close. And again, Paul could have an argument over Parker if he was playing every game. But he's missed 12 and that makes it just about impossible to argue him over Parker. The Clippers' record without Paul is indicative of how important he is to the Clippers. Watching the games, it actually tells as much of the story as a guy not playing can tell. But it doesn't (at least not rightfully) strengthen his argument for MVP. The fact is he hasn't been there to help for those 12 games.
Kenny Smith says Parker is the 3rd best player in the NBA this year. Despite not picking him for the all-star team, Charles has talked about Parker being even better this year...and last year Barkley had him as the 3rd best player in the NBA. And Chuck, despite his dislike for our teams, is as good an analyst as there is. There have been people talking about Parker having the better season. No one argues Parker being a better player than Paul. Paul is the best PG in basketball.
12 games doesn't disqualify you...but it's 12 games so far. So far that matters a lot. You couldn't argue that Paul is playing way better than Parker. So 12 games is a big deal and an obstacle for Paul to ovecome.
And again, Duncan is only more valuable to the Spurs in that he is Tim Duncan and he's the heart of the team. On the floor there is no argument for him being as important, as valuable, for having the impact that Parker has. Parker is much better, at this point.