Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
....this is what I replied to:
And you take that to mean that I think dominance does not involve the playoffs?
To put it simply....
Someone does 09 Lebron numbers and wins 66 games with Boobie, Mo, old Z, hughes and so on while someone does 12 Lebron numbers and wins less with Wade, Bosh, Ray, and so on....
09 Lebron wins the MVP.
So I dont quite see how Lebron is just having some otherworldly season far as MVP chances this year or last. Not when he has had at least 2 years himself that would probably win it over both of them.
Doesnt mean he was a better player then. But you win more with less help with the number he was doing back then(in 2010 he did like 30/9/8) you win MVP.
He wouldnt win MVP with his current year over any number of seasons. 2000 Shaq wins this year. 09 and 10 Lebron. 96 Jordan. 92 Jordan. 87 Magic. 67 and 68 Wilt. Several of Kareems seasons. Shit Dirk might win for 07. Good but not amazing team wins 67 games? People would laugh when he went out in the first round...but he already has the MVP.
Its not about how good they are on the bottom line. The topic was about how Lebrons seasons stacks up all time and what Durant could do with less imposing seasons in his way...suggesting there are only 4 or less of them.
I just dont see how thats the case.
Just be real here....
How do you vote for Lebron winning equal or less games on the Heat vs doing it on the Cavs with a bunch of role players?
You dont get to vote after june. You vote in April.
09 Lebron would win.
He wouldn't be winning that many games with his old Cleveland team with the current East. Its a lot more of an open field at the moment, and as far as defense goes, nearly every team in the playoffs picture currently is fantastic defensively. Even the Bucks who are the 8th seed.
There is a greater collection of talent in each individual team as well, so more all star caliber players to take over games and challenge other teams.
Same goes with all the other player comparisons, where you transport each individual season into current basketball. The number of wins back then with their team might not translate to as many wins now. NBA basketball right now is more balanced than its ever been. You have a large number of teams with top heavy talent, and a great number of teams with up and coming talent, and it seems to be perfectly distributed to result in currently, maybe some of the most competitive league wide basketball we've seen in a long time.