Originally Posted by JEFFERSON MONEY
Agreed quite thoroughly.
The antagonization amongst the lefts and the rights reek of bad blood and ostracization, when in reality we are perpetually intertwined and need each other for prosperity. Biggest issue is the left sees the right as dumb, backwards, and greedy but lacks balls and consistency and a set order of things. The right sees the left as hypocritical in the way they argue. And of course weak and destructive to American interests.
We must create a system to emphasize each others strengths. The left has done absolute wonders in terms of entertainment, kicking azz in music and movies especially. So many outstanding things have come through the social reform messages (RaTM, PE), the experimentaiton with drugs (Hendrix, Zep) and so on that America simply couldn't live without them. But their policies hurt the ambitious...
And the conservatives have mastered a safe formula in faith and family that have kept mankind from exercising its darkest impulses for thousands of years and continued to breed good, centered, strong people.
Just like in writing, if we can find a way to use the reason of the right with the imagination of the left in harmonious fashion, we could create a masterpiece.
All it takes is a refocus and readjustment but it's easier said than done. And I honestly think Nationalism could potentially help in this regard. If America was to collectively instill a sense of deep pride in its citizens and keep the utter bipartian animosity at bay, patch up a few policies (like divorce), and fund those who wish to create jobs, we could look at a brighter future.
It's like Cyrus says in The Warriors. "The problem is the man is turning us against one another." But what if.. we united
There's some masterminds pulling strings behind the scenes no doubts. F*ck them. I hope someone goes Dorothy and Co. on them and reduces Oz to a clown.
Similarly, the whole Muslim vs Christian vs Jew vs Atheist fiasco. There's some major sh!t going on to start up a ruccus. And when people are divided thats when bullies like Jack from Lord of the Flies step in and seize power. And as people who honor liberty it is imperative that tyrants be abdicated from the throne.
Very well thought insights. I should include you as one of the smart posters I've seen on here.
You are right, but we are fighting an uphill battle because there is so much indoctrination going on in both education and church. Both sides are conditioning the lower class to think in terms of black and white: education does this by saying everything they teach (including history which is the most subjective topic) as objective and factual while religion is brainwashing their followers to believe in an all knowing God. When this happens, there are no discussions; there are only disagreements. The values they teach in education is antithetical to religion; education is not supposed to teach values, but they do this indiscreetly, which probably needs another thread to fully explain.
We are all conditioned at birth to hate each other: for example, race is a huge issue that gets brought up time and time again usually initiated by education. Education would highly emphasize on slave history and religion would be against equality for both women's and black's rights. Education would teach open mindedness towards gays and the use of contraceptives, and religion would be the opposite of that.
Both systems are doing this deliberately and the whole purpose is to create a poor vs poor inner conflict.
The best thing is to be above issues that pit us against one another and to only focus what unites us, but sadly, they are systems of indoctrination, and when someone is indoctrinated fully, it is hard to convince them otherwise.