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Old 07-15-2006, 11:55 PM   #5
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Default Foye vs Roy game

I didn't have the privilege of watching the Vegas Summer League Games. But I found a nice post by someone name drza44 on the Timberwolves Central forums. Here is a link:

I paraphrased him below as well.

*Roy first. He looked awfully impressive yesterday, especially in the first half. He was CLEARLY the best player on the Blazers, despite the fact that he came off the bench. His scouting report was dead on the money. He totally controlled the offense, patiently picking his way to the rim when he chose to drive and setting up his teammates nicely with passes within the framework of the offense. He is outstanding at using picks to his advantage. He rarely (if ever) just took his man 1-on-1 off the dribble (except for #32-Jeremy Kelley, who he just repeatedly took for most of the second quarter), and instead would use a screen to get his shoulder past his defender. Once he had the step, he wouldn't explode to the rim but would instead patiently dribble his way in, seemingly looking for his teammates the entire time, but if he got to the rim and no one had broken open yet he was perfectly content to finish at the rim or get fouled (both of which he did a lot).

*Now Foye. He looked good. Very good. Just like Roy, he was clearly the best player on the Wolves (the "high pick" vibe that Aldridge didn't give off, both Roy and Foye gave off in spades). Foye opened the game hitting consecutive 18 foot jumpers, one off a curl catch-and-shoot (after he'd brought the ball up and passed it), the other in the corner off of 1-2 dribles. For most of the game, it was clear that he could get to the rim whenever he wanted but it seemed like he was kind of consciously trying to do other things. Honestly, like Bracey, I could tell that Foye wasn't a pure PG but nature, but Foye seemed much further along the PG continuum than Bracey did. I don't know if Foye had a single assist, but I noted several instances (at least 4-5)where he passed the ball to his teammates in places they could score and they either missed open shots or travelled. Some of them were off of drive-and-kicks (though a bit more controlled than Bracey's were, as he seemed to purposefully pass instead of jumping and realizing he had no shot and just throwing to an area). But others were in the offense, off entry passes or off a pick-and roll. Then there were another 3 passes at least that could have been assists but instead ended up as turnovers because his teammate either stopped their cut or had the ball go right through their hands (this happened with Bruenner, who messed up a beautiful assist and went up to him and apologized).

Like Roy, Foye could get to the rim when he wanted. But they did it differently. Roy used picks, and was very methodical and controlled on his drives. Foye was just explosive. He rarely used a pick...he rarely needed it. His first step was just by people. He had one play where he crossed up some guy on the baseline so nasty that the guy fell down, then he finished with a pretty layup. He had another play towards the end where Roy was guarding him, and he crossed through his legs 4 consecutive times before bursting past Roy and Roy had to foul him.

I'm running out of time, so I'm gonna wrap this soon. The last thing that I want to point out is that in the 4th quarter, Foye seemed to say "forget it, I'm scoring" and over a 2-minute stretch I think he scored or got fouled (and hit both free throwws) on 6 straight possessions to cut a 23 point lead for the Blazers down to 11 (or 13, can't remember) with 2 minutes left. Roy was on him every possession, and Foye jsut took him. At that point the Blazers took Roy out, and about 30 seconds later the Wolves took out Foye.

I thought this and my other post should provide some decent insights into the Roy vs Foye debate. The page so far seemed to be misinformed. Personally, I believe both Roy and Foye will be good NBA players. I prefer Foye to Roy, but I'm a Minny fan.

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