LaLa: Mavs Fans Used Racial Slurs

[w00terz]

After tomorrow night, I don't want to see any more of your stupid ass posts. One more day, I can't wait.

Mavericks fans are sore losers. Your team sucks wang.

[Foster5k]

true.

i have no doubt whatosever that "lala" instigated this stuff. just look at her and look who she dates. it is a certainty.

The fact is, Brinker and kentatm, you two have no idea what happen. You going to rely on what Dallas fans say? Of course those fans will have each other's backs. Again, has LaLa ever started something with fans in the past? Yes or No? Has she ever thrown drinks on people, in the stands, in the past? Yes or No? Has she ever verbally started any confrontation, with any fans, in the stands before? Yes or No. I think before you go around accusing LaLa of something, you need to answer those questions, with facts, not assumptions or hearsay.

Also, it is a big deal that an owner of a team, will harass someone's mom, just because they lost a game. You can't have owners going around pointing fingers at the opposing team's mother and calling their sons thugs, etc, without punishment. The league actually, should of fined Cuban, for what he did. I think that would of sent a message. Instead, they just pat him on the hand, etc.

[NuggetsFan]

first off, there are MANY season ticket holder Mavs fans who called in on Dallas sports radio to say the racial stuff did NOT happen, that LaLa started it all by throwing a full drink on people and that she and KMarts mother were talking trash from the get go.

if you go into an opposing teams arena in your teams gear and talk some noise, your ass had better be ready to take some lip back. Its like that EVERYWHERE.

second, I really think people need to get a grip on the Cuban vs KMarts mom thing. What did he do that was really that bad? He shouted out her kid is a thug as he was walking by. Is that really so awful? Really? Are some of you really that big of a pansy that equals harassing a person? Good lord, grow some balls.

finally, I am really amused at people from Colorado suddenly being super sensitive to mean fans. I have had full beers thrown at my back walking up to the stadium at Colorado games for wearing A&M or Colorado State (sister went there) gear. I wore a Mavs jersey at a Nugs game and had to listen to people scream about being a queer who screwed steers. My sister wore a Mavs jersey to game one and then didnt in game 2 b/c so much crap was yelled at her. Avs fans were major pricks when I rocked my Stars gear up there in the playoffs. Hell, Colorado and CSU games have been pepper sprayed for fans being nuts and one year when playing Nebraska they had to kick out all the people int he student section for tossing stuff on the field.

So all you butt hurt Denver fans need to get over it and realize that when you go into a hostile environment in enemy garb you are going to get some **** yelled at you and that you aren't any better than the rest of us when it come to fan class. There are ALWAYS a few drunk pricks who start ****. Even wussy Mormon fans at BYU football games can be complete *******s (they were hanging black players in effigy when I went there for an A&M game) so just grow a spine and deal.

I pretty much agree with the things you said. ****s going to happen either way that's how fans are.

But in no way should race come into play, there's no was to justify that. Don't know if it's actually true so doesn't really matter.

And the Cuban thing(bolded) is bad. What are you talking about grow some balls? you don't bring anyones mom into the picture. I'm sure you'd be upset if someone had words with your mom and I'm sure you wouldn't let it go.


Don't agree with harassing Mom's\Wife's tho.

[kentatm]

I pretty much agree with the things you said. ****s going to happen either way that's how fans are.

But in no way should race come into play, there's no was to justify that. Don't know if it's actually true so doesn't really matter.

And the Cuban thing(bolded) is bad. What are you talking about grow some balls? you don't bring anyones mom into the picture. I'm sure you'd be upset if someone had words with your mom and I'm sure you wouldn't let it go.


Don't agree with harassing Mom's\Wife's tho.

if somebody shouted to my mother from a distance as they were walking away that I was a punk or a thug I would NOT be upset. I'd laugh it off with a big fat "Whatev." He didn't run up in her face and scream at her. he yelled out something as he was leaving the arena, fueled by the anger of losing and a clear no call on an intentional foul. Its not close to as bad as people are making it out.

I don't know if LaLa is telling the truth or not. Its possible some jackass said something yea. But like I said, i have had all kinds of things yelled at me in all types of sporting events. ****, in San Antonio I was repeatedly called a whip cracker (by Hispanic guy which was amusing). You know what you do when a moron shouts something at you? You ignore their ass. Nothing infuriates a trash talker more than being brushed off like the nothing they are.


also Foster, I have no reason to believe LaLa just how you have no reason to believe the fans. HOWEVER, she was escorted from the arena (as was Trina who was reported (unconfirmed) to have been throwing punches. Also, you can see in some video that it looks like LaLa was trying to throw stuff as she was leaving so who knows. YOu can't ever really prove anything when something devolves into he said she said.

[rawimpact]

^agree

If he looks like a thug, acts like a thug, he most likely is a thug.

[Foster5k]

.also Foster, I have no reason to believe LaLa just how you have no reason to believe the fans. HOWEVER, she was escorted from the arena (as was Trina who was reported (unconfirmed) to have been throwing punches. Also, you can see in some video that it looks like LaLa was trying to throw stuff as she was leaving so who knows. YOu can't ever really prove anything when something devolves into he said she said.

All I'm saying is this:

-I've never heard, before this situation, LaLa getting into any altercation with any fan, so that leads me to believe that she was verbally, physically attacked, etc.

-She basically has no reason to make something like this up.

-Dallas fans have thrown stuff on the court before.

-Mark Cuban has harassed a person's mom before, so of course, I will believe one of their fans will do the same and harass Carmelo's girl.

-Fans are known to verbally attack opposing teams. Lala is not known to verbally attack fans.

All this summed up, makes for a good enough reason, and logical reason, for me to think LaLa is telling the truth, and the fans verbally attacked her and threw ice on her.

Also, rawimpact, what is your definition of a thug? Carmelo Anthony looks like a thug? Wtf? He acts like a thug? Wtf? How does he look and act like a thug, please inform me.

I wonder if they got their rightful discount for KFC grilled chicken? I heard thats what you give them and they stop being madd!

Peter Griffin, everything you have stated, before this comment will now be ignored. By that statement, you clearly are an ignorant racist. I'm done with you. I didn't know the KKK was so prevalent on ISH.

[rawimpact]

After tomorrow night, I don't want to see any more of your stupid ass posts. One more day, I can't wait.

Mavericks fans are sore losers. Your team sucks wang.

How can you say this? If it wasn't for the mistake, the series could possibly have been 2-2....


quit being so damn cocky.

[rawimpact]

Also, rawimpact, what is your definition of a thug? Carmelo Anthony looks like a thug? Wtf? He acts like a thug? Wtf? How does he look and act like a thug, please inform me.

I was talking about kenyon martin, sorry for the confusion.

Going after somebody like that on or off the court is just wrong, especially for a professional basketball player. Cuban is considered to be just a fan when in attendance and should be treated as one.

[BRINKER]

Also, it is a big deal that an owner of a team, will harass someone's mom, just because they lost a game. You can't have owners going around pointing fingers at the opposing team's mother and calling their sons thugs, etc, without punishment. The league actually, should of fined Cuban, for what he did. I think that would of sent a message. Instead, they just pat him on the hand, etc.

i couldnt agree more. cuban can be really bush league at times and this was one of them. pretty disgraceful.

[kentatm]

All I'm saying is this:

-I've never heard, before this situation, LaLa getting into any altercation with any fan, so that leads me to believe that she was verbally, physically attacked, etc.

I never heard anything about Manny and roids but then he got busted using a masking agent. That mean it aint true?

-She basically has no reason to make something like this up.

She could be pissed or embarrassed she was taken out of her seats. She may be angry she acted like a fool and wants an excuse. She may have a bit of an attention whore in her.

-Dallas fans have thrown stuff on the court before.

fans at EVERY arena and stadium have tossed stuff onto the court. She isnt a fan?

-Mark Cuba has harassed a person's mom before, so of course, I will believe one of their fans will do the same and harass Carmelo's girl.

it makes ZERO difference if she is Melos woman or not. She is the opposing arena wearing enemy garb. Getting shouted at is par for the course. And saying B is guilty b/c of the actions of A? I hope you never get on a jury with that attitude.

-Fans are known to verbally attack opposing teams. Lala is not known to verbally attack fans.

again, she isnt a fan? B/c nobody has ever said anything about her she has never talked trash? Also, Dallas (all teams) and especially the lower bowl of the AAC which is made up of mostly corporate seats and rich fat asses who never get up and yell is easily one of the tamer places to play in the US.

All this summed up, makes for a good enough reason, and logical reason, for me to think LaLa is telling the truth, and the fans verbally attacked her and threw ice on her.

Not really. Again, I think the people who were there sitting in the area that were calling in saying that it was LaLa and KMarts mom that started the trash talking from the get go and LaLa tossed a drink first have jsut as much credibility as her. Plus, local radio guy Randy Galloway who HAMMERED Cuban and defended KMarts mother up and down after game 3 was ripping her today saying he watched her stirring it up from early in the game. He another Dallas liar too?

Also, rawimpact, what is your definition of a thug? Carmelo Anthony looks like a thug? Wtf? He acts like a thug? Wtf? How does he look and act like a thug, please inform me.

I actually like Melo but his stop snitching appearance? Pretty low class and thuggish. Of course, he DID throw a punch and ran like a little girl.... Not so thuggish.

Peter Griffin, everything you have stated, before this comment will now be ignored. By that statement, you clearly are an ignorant racist. I'm done with you. I didn't know the KKK was so prevalent on ISH.

what he said is a great example of what I meant about ignoring BS comments

[Kblaze8855]

the fact that she dates a loser thug zero-IQ chump like carmelo anthony leads me to believe she has no class, and is a ghetto skeezer who goes around 'hooten n hollerin' at every one who looks at her wrong.

thus the most likely course of actual events in this instance was that she instigated a fight with someone over absolutely nothing, then dallas fans probably retaliated verbally WITHOUT using any sort of derogatory racial language, then she further made a scene and embarrassed herself, then to basically justify her absolute lack of dignity, she fabricated some notion of offensive slurs.

basically there is a 100% chance that she started this whole thing, made an absolute fool of her ghetto self, then completely made up the race card in order to save face.

So based on nothing but the fact that she dates Carmelo you have deduced that shes a "hooten n hollerin", classless, lying, ghetto, "skeezer" who made up the idea of racial slurs to cover for her lack of dignity?

Are....are you Batman?

Did you teach Batman?

[momo]

Jeeez. This is a great thread for pulling idiots out of the wood work and exposing them so they can be ignore listed.

[Silverbullit]

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archi...-bodyguar.html

Peggy, a season-ticket holder who sat in the row behind Carmelo Anthony's love LaLa Vazquez and Kenyon Martin's mother last night, put the blame for the bad scene during Game 4 squarely on Melo's fiancee and her bodyguard.

The hostility started, according to Peggy, when the bodyguard turned around and loudly and crudely insulted her.

"Everybody started defending me," she said, "and it just got really nasty."

Peggy (who asked that her last name not be used) strongly denied that any Mavs fans used racial slurs or threatened Vazquez, a VH1/MTV personality. She said the only time any Mavs fan touched Vazquez was when a girl in Peggy's group accidentally brushed against her while reaching for a purse underneath her seat.

"Don't you ever (beep) touch me again!" Vazquez responded, according to Peggy, who added that Vazquez also flicked soda on them at that point.

"If that would have been any other fan, they would have been tossed out long before that girl was," Peggy said. "That little girl needed attention. Apparently, she's a has-been whatever."

Peggy said nobody harassed Lydia Moore, Kenyon Martin's mother. Peggy, who went to Game 2 in Denver and had pleasant conversations with K-Mart's mom during Game 3, said Moore and the man seated next to her seemed to be enjoying the attention early in the game and didn't do anything to cause trouble.

But it bothered Peggy that MFFLs are being portrayed as racist hooligans while Vazquez is playing the victim.

"Dallas fans are getting a bad rap for this," Peggy said. "I think they're pulling the race card, and there's nothing to it. It's ridiculous, because it's not at all what they're saying.

"Those people just wanted attention."

[NuggetsFan]

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archi...-bodyguar.html

Ahh seems kinda fishy. Not saying this "Peggy" isn't telling the truth but I wouldn't expect her to step up and say that her "group" and other Mavs fans were saying racial slurs.


I'm just hoping that all this drama is going to get Denver fired up for tonight and we can have the last laugh..

[Foster5k]

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archi...-bodyguar.html

"That little girl needed attention. Apparently, she's a has-been whatever."

After reading that quote, from what you posted Silverbuillit, this Peggy woman clearly has an agenda against LaLa. Calling her a little girl? Saying she needs attention? Saying she is a has-been? Wtf? Can you honestly believe anything someone like this will say? I for sure don't.

kentatm stated it pretty good. No one knows what happened. Although, I think kentatm is wrong and that fans started all this mess. I agree with him that we may never know the truth, of what happened unless we see more video. You can't simply go either side, by hearsay and especially from a woman who is clearly making personal attacks against LaLa, saying she is a has-been.. Wow!

I sure as hell don't believe this Peggy woman.