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That 2011 Cavaliers team also lost Shaq and wasn't really replaced by anyone significant that I can tell so a fairly straight comparison is not available. But we'll see. The current season isn't finished yet.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?491724-Aldridge-was-huge-liability-for-Spurs-on-defense https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289298&p=10426582 https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289784&page=18 He made Drummond look like SHAQ yesterday.

Well last year they missed almost 20 games because of covid so not sure they're actually a sub 20 win team. And last years team wasn't as good. Green missed a bunch of games and wasn't healthy and they didn't have wiggins until late in the season. As far as curry dragging them to an almost .500 team he definitely is but again lots of great...

you're saying that was his best year though. 4 of his 5 best seasons in bpm were in portland. was he better there overall?

:roll: can't make this shit up

No they don't.

Bad team Still losing with him More minutes/shots Not in Houston’s plans for the future Playing for contract in summer Nothing more nothing less.

Just admit it pal by your own standard LeBron has more impact.

His highest BPM by a big margin was with the Spurs in 18.

LOL @ crying about using his free agency rights Pretty sure Steph could've come back last year as some point but instead decided to be in on the tank job and let the ship sink and burn. That's some great showing of leadership.

ya like i said, haven't watched many spurs games. the ones i did see he wasn't doing anything special. looking at the numbers though, LMA had higher bpm finishes with portland. maybe his best playoff run also in-terms of scoring. how's his play this year?

It’s been over a year since covid hit the scene and people still only worry about themselves. You’d think this pandemic would make people more selfless. Guess not. I care less about how covid would effect me more than the person who has pre existing medical conditions. If protecting myself means I can potentially protect them? Then that is the...

clippers rank #1 offense right now on bball reference. Me staring down OP

Their leading players then. He's not going to win the award. It has its history and calcified preconditions. But as for the idea of what a real MVP should be? Yes he certainly should be in the running and, depending on how many more games they win and how Steph performs in them, yes in the end he might very well deserve it.

How large is the neighborhood?

He had his best season in San Antonio lol

Touché. Then again that's in the aftermath of being abandoned and demoralized by their star player. I cannot think of another player who gets as much credit for abandoning his teams.

He’s 29 wtf

Nicolas Claxton Future DPOY, one of the most versatile defenders in the league

Why are you calling them stars? That term only exists so that they can be manipulated to tell a narrative favored by the network that paid billions to broadcast NBA games, no?

you're not arguing that steph is the MVP right now, right? i think he's high impact and the goat shooter. i understand he gets a lot of bs flack too. still not MVP though.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2011.html :yaohappy:

after an entire 2020 year of calling up g-league players and purposely tanking, the only conclusion we have come to agree on is Stephen Curry, Wiggins Bazemore, Oubre and #2 overall pick were only good enough to elevate the Warriors from 15th seed to 11th seed.

If you can show they were sub-20 win teams without their stars than you have argument. If not it is just speculation and blather. Steph's team last year was the worst in the league. That's simply a fact. He's dragging them up to close to a .500 record despite missing more than a tenth of the season. Not many cases where that's happened.

Yeah at your age and history it’s not worth the risk to screw around. Got my Johnson and Johnson shot couple days ago. Takes 2 weeks but so far just a bruised area where I was given the needle.

Getting my first fix today in an hour. Pfizer baby. Can't wait to feel that shit running through my veins.