2018-19 regular season. Time to live up to the hype!

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/6/18067242/utah-jazz-2018-2019-roster-rank-rudy-gobert-is-mvp

[QUOTE]For the 2nd year in a row, Rudy Gobert has been voted the most valuable player on the Utah Jazz roster. This shouldn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/5/18067334/nba-utah-jazz-toronto-raptors-kyle-lowry-worst-start-franchise-history


Ricky Rubio and Joe Ingles continue to struggle. Joe was 3 of 13 from the field and a +/- -20 on the court. Ricky Rubio was 1 of 10 with 3 rebounds, 9 assists, and a +/- -20. There were times when Rubio looked just flat out lost on the court. Dante Exum ended up playing 16 minutes of this game, but most of those in garbage time. Joe Ingles is going to get the benefit of the doubt because he has shot 40% or above three of the last seasons. Ricky Rubio is getting a long leash from the saved up goodwill earned from his second half of the season and postseason. One of those savings accounts is going to clear checks for longer.


Ricky looks the same to me. That's the problem. Even when he's good it's hard to watch.

[QUOTE]Saying that the Utah Jazz can get this fixed and beat some bad teams to improve their record is not necessarily a lie, but it unfairly glosses over the mess that is before us right now. Ricky Rubio is continuing the worst start to a season of his career. Donovan Mitchell has almost hurt himself twice to start the season. Joe Ingles is struggling from the field. Rudy Gobert

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/05/utah-jazz-toronto-raptors-lowry-winless-home/


The last time the Utah Jazz finished their first 10 games with a 4-6 record, Quin Snyder was in his first year on the bench and the Gordon Hayward-led squad notched just 38 wins on the year.


The Hayward/Favors led team was one of the worst in basketball. Rudy made them one of the best teams in the league. :wtf:

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Andy Larsen: Donovan Mitchell is listed as probable for Wednesday

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Ryan McDonald: Former Jazz star Darrell Griffith will be in attendance at tomorrow

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46421879/ben-anderson-whats-wrong-with-the-utah-jazz

[QUOTE]It

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46422014/jazz-arent-panicking-amid-4-game-losing-streak

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900040668/ricky-rubio-is-more-concerned-with-defense-than-his-early-shooting-woes.html

[QUOTE]SALT LAKE CITY

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http://saltcityhoops.com/this-time-last-year-jazz-start/

[QUOTE]Utah

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/7/18070490/2018-g-league-salt-lake-city-stars-texas-legends-tyler-cavanaugh-willie-reed-naz-mitrou-long

[QUOTE]Perhaps Tyler Cavanaugh is that next player? Whether it

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: Donovan Mitchell is PROBABLE to play tonight. Joe Ingles is available.

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/7/17986304/utah-jazz-trade-nba-washington-wizards-zach-lowe-otto-porter-phoenix-suns

[QUOTE]It would suck to see Rubio and Favors go. Favors is loved by the fanbase and front office, and Rubio was a huge part of Utah

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/07/utah-jazz-not-time-panic-fan-concerns-justified/


Heading into the 2018-19 NBA season, anticipation and expectations were sky high for the Utah Jazz. In bringing back a team that closed out the season 29-6 and advanced to the second round of the playoffs, it was simply logical that this squad would continue to do great things. With a staunch defense led by Rudy Gobert, a brilliant coach in Quin Snyder, a rising star in Donovan Mitchell and a well-rounded group up and down the roster, this team seemed primed for a stellar year.


Actually it was stupid to think that the same team without shooters wouldn't have problems

[QUOTE]Just like the first group I mentioned, there

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Tony Jones: Mavericks injury report for tonight: Luka Doncic (right ankle sprain) is PROBABLE; Dirk Nowitzki (left ankle surgery) and Devin Harris (left hamstring injury) are both OUT.

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The Jazz clogged passing lanes and forced the Mavericks to make bad decisions. Dallas committed 25 turnovers, and Utah turned them into 31 points.

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[QUOTE]

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900040979/jazz-celebrate-40th-season-could-gobert-lane-be-in-the-future.html

[QUOTE]

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[QUOTE]Utah Jazz players treating Gordon Hayward

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/7/18073698/utah-jazz-game-recap-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-luka-doncic

[QUOTE]The moral to this story is when the Jazz start clicking as a team, every one of our players starts looking better. Defense flows into the offense, and add the fact that we were making our threes at a reasonable rate, and you get what you saw tonight. The Jazz took advantage of a younger Dallas squad, sure, but this was a game the Jazz sorely needed after a rough start to the 2018-19 NBA season. It

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/07/utah-jazz-tyler-cavanaugh-willie-reed-showing-stars/

[QUOTE]Since making the move from Boise, Idaho in 2016, the Salt Lake City Stars

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Andy Larsen: Jae Crowder on that game in Boston where the fans chanted Hayward

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/08/utah-jazz-alec-burks-deserves-chance-great/

[QUOTE]We all know the ups and downs that the Utah Jazz have had with Burks. He

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NBA point guard Ricky Rubio is dribbling away from his Minneapolis residence. His industrial-style apartment is now on the market for $1.22 million.

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[QUOTE]Emiliano Carchia: Al Jefferson

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Just learned that the Jazz will recognize Gordon Hayward

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[QUOTE]Tim Bontemps: Gordon Hayward will play tonight against the Phoenix Suns. Unless he has a physical setback during tonight

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46423518/jazz-set-for-gordon-haywards-return

[QUOTE]

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900041096/jazzs-jae-crowder-relives-sad-moment-of-gordon-haywards-gruesome-injury.html


I would hope that the fans tonight give Jae Crowder and Donovan Mitchell a standing ovation and don't acknowledge Hayward at all. Hayward is a me first type guy that would not have meshed with the chemistry of the team. He is not the type of player that dives for loose balls and we have an entire team full of guys that do that. As the season progresses Boston is going to find out that they severely overpaid for a guy who is a good ball player but not a great one. I would take Brown or Tatum over Hayward in a heartbeat. It won't be long before his contract becomes an albatross and he becomes difficult to trade because nobody wants to assume the financial drain.


He had reached greatness in his final games with the Jazz. Rather he returns to that after the injury remains to be seen. I'd take him over anyone on the Jazz not named Gobert and Mitchell that's for sure! :no:

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900041201/morning-links-kyrie-irving-gives-gordon-hayward-credit-for-playing-7-years-in-utah-while-utah-jazz-fans-ponder-their-response.html

[QUOTE]"If anything he gave (seven years) of his career trying to be the best he could in Utah and I give him credit for that," Irving told Jay King of The Athletic. "And he made a decision in his career, and in his life, for his family, to be better. I

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/9/18078378/gordon-hayward-utah-jazz-return-boston-celtic-jae-crowder

[QUOTE]This same group of fans eagerly awaiting what the then Knicks unprotected lottery pick would become and watched as Gordon Hayward became its heir. They watched and rooted for the development of the scrawny kid out of Butler even as Paul George blossomed in Indiana and saw success sooner. They took his side as Ty Corbin and Kevin O

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/9/18077196/alec-burks-sixth-man-most-improved-utah-jazz


Is this another mirage from Alec Burks? Or, has he figured things out?


You mean has Snyder gotten over himself?


In the pressure cooker of the NBA playoffs, Burks averaged 25.1 points, 7.4 rebounds, 5.3 assists and 1.2 steals per 75 team possessions, with a .581 True Shooting Percentage. His Win Shares per 48 Minutes for those games was .169. Gobert was the only Jazz player who topped Burks in Win Shares per 48 Minutes in the series against the Oklahoma City Thunder and Houston Rockets.


But they would have won with Ricky! :lol :lol :lol

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/9/26/17908210/nba-gordon-hayward-villain-utah-jazz-why-havent-you-called-gail-barstool-sports-podcast

[QUOTE]The last possible

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/5/15920918/2017-free-agency-gordon-hayward-boston-celtics-utah-jazz-reaction-boo-him-into-the-stone-age

[QUOTE]As a writer for SLC Dunk you are required at times to take off your fan hat and look at this analytically or from a business perspective. Sometimes you think like a coach or how an opposing GM would encounter a situation. Other times you FAN hard in a post but nowhere near the level you would in real life. The honest to God truth is all of us who write here at SLC Dunk love the Utah Jazz. We

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/09/utah-jazz-honor-gordon-hayward-game-claims-theres-no-way-hed-miss/

[QUOTE]But it wasn

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Friday night, Hayward will come back to the court at Vivint Smart Home Arena for the first time since his decision to leave the Utah Jazz as a free agent to join the Celtics in July 2017. He won’t do so, though, as the All-Star he was when he left — at least, not yet. Instead, he returns as a player still in the midst of his recovery phase after suffering the most traumatic event of his basketball life, losing all but the first six minutes of last season after suffering a fractured left tibia and dislocated ankle in a fall during Boston’s season opener in Cleveland. Hayward is still inching his way back to being the impactful piece the Celtics expected to be adding to their roster 18 months ago. – via ESPN

That’s true not only because of the delayed return caused by Hayward’s injury, but because of the successes both teams had last season without him. The blossoming of Donovan Mitchell in Utah and Tatum in Boston meant both franchises, somehow, managed to thrive without the player whose departure from one and arrival with the other was expected to have such a decisive impact. “It’s just circumstances that happened,” Hayward said. “With me dealing with everything I had to deal with, and they’ve had a year to move on … they had a great year last year. “I’ve got nothing but respect for the people who are on the Jazz, and what they did for me. But it’s not something that I’ve been thinking about.” – via ESPN

They wish the wait wouldn’t have been so long, but the fractured lower leg changed everything. Sixteen months passed, and now the Utah Jazz and Gordon Hayward lurch into one of the NBA’s most undesirable encounters: The homecoming of the free-agent star. This instance isn’t rich with acrimony as much as it simply registers as a nuisance. The Jazz aren’t dying to discuss Hayward and his Boston Celtics, nor is Hayward dying to discuss the Jazz. It isn’t personal but practical. Utah has yet to play consistently well this season, nor has Hayward himself. Once they get on the floor, they’ll be fiercely competitive. The timing’s terrible, but no one wants to lose this one. “I wish it was just treated like another game,” Hayward told ESPN. – via ESPN

Mitchell changes everything and nothing. He gives the Jazz the hope of a big, bold future. They give him a stable and sure professional platform. “Frankly, we won’t hide from any culpability,” Lindsey told ESPN. “We dissected it ad nauseam. We did a lot of introspection. And what we are learning is that it’s just best to continue with what the Millers [Jazz ownership] believe in: having our best investments be in ourselves. “They’ve got a legacy trust where every dime goes back into the team. They take no profit. We’ve done an arena renovation. There’s the uniqueness to our new practice facility, where we really let Quin grab a piece of it to fit him and fit us. “So when you’re competing, and something doesn’t go your way, you want to take a look at it. And we did. Could I have done a better job handling the [Hayward] extension? Was there a hangover effect to that? Would he have left anyway? You ask yourself all those questions.” – via ESPN

They sure act like someone is still making a profit. Nothing has changed.

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Eric Woodyard: Derrick Favors on Gordon Hayward

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Andy Larsen: Just heard from Boston

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Jared Weiss: Celtics confirm Kyrie Irving is out tonight to attend his grandfather

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: Jazz guard Raul Neto appears closer to a return. He

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http://saltcityhoops.com/writer-panel-jazz-nation-prepares-for-a-reunion-with-hayward/

[QUOTE]Laura Thompson: I expect a few cheers, but mostly booing. While Hayward

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Jazz coach Quin Snyder says his team is approaching the game just like any other one, despite the ESPN broadcast and outside intensity among local fans surrounding Hayward

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Jay King: Terry Rozier will start for Kyrie Irving, who is attending his grandfather

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[QUOTE]Olgun Uluc: I

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Tim Bontemps: As I just reported on SportsCenter, the Jazz will not be doing a video tribute tonight to honor Gordon Hayward

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Jazz coach Quin Snyder says his team is approaching the game just like any other one, despite the ESPN broadcast and outside intensity among local fans surrounding Hayward

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46424109/how-did-the-jazz-recover-so-quickly-after-hayward-left-its-in-their-culture

[QUOTE]Griffith was selected second overall by the Jazz in the 1980 NBA Draft. The team had been in Utah for just a season and was a young organization with an unsure future. There wasn't a state-of-the-art practice facility. And there certainly wasn't the same type of money

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/09/report-utah-jazz-landed-star-pg-kyle-lowry/


Per the report, the Jazz had an inside track on prying Lowry from the Toronto Raptors, but feared that inking him to a high-dollar deal would impede their ability to re-up with Hayward from a financial standpoint.


Said they were willing to pay tax with the trust. How does Lowry make sense with Ricky though? Hayward leaves a team with Lowry, Gobert, Ingles and Mitchell? :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE]According to multiple Tribune sources, the Jazz spoke extensively to Toronto point guard Kyle Lowry

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https://hoopshabit.com/2018/11/09/utah-jazz-slow-start-traces-back-defensive-issues/


Last season, the Utah Jazz rode their elite defense into the playoffs. This season, the Jazz are off to a 5-6 start and the defense is to blame.


The defense has had it's moments and will be fine. The offense will always have problems with the players they play

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Tim MacMahon: Gordon Hayward was greeted with a nice chorus of boos when he walked onto the floor in Utah 70 minutes before tipoff. He grinned.

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Hayward spent his first seven pro seasons playing for the Jazz, and when he left to sign with the Celtics 16 months ago there was resentment and anger here. And Hayward missed all but five minutes of last season with an ankle injury, so these fans had not yet had a chance to really show him how they feel. So every time Hayward touched the ball Friday, or had his name called by the public address announcer, or even took a layup during pregame warm-ups, they booed. At one point in the third quarter, a chant of

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46424364/gordon-hayward-isnt-missed-but-he-isnt-forgotten

[QUOTE]Maybe the Jazz fans can now be over Hayward

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900041405/brad-rock-gordon-hayward-story-wasnt-the-utah-jazzs-best-story-of-the-night.html


The Hayward of old: not terrible, but not all that good.


Looked like Hayward to me :confusedshrug:

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900041403/no-kyrie-irving-and-the-boston-celtics-cant-overcome-his-absence-in-loss-to-utah-jazz.html

[QUOTE]It happened earlier this week against Toronto when Kawhi Leonard was out, last week when Minnesota

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900041439/utah-jazzs-rudy-gobert-listed-among-detroit-pistons-great-ben-wallaces-favorite-nba-defenders-to-watch.html


Gobert grinded overseas before coming to Utah in 2013, then spent time in the NBA Development League before breaking through these last two seasons to make the NBA All-Defensive First Team twice and ultimately winning Defensive Player of the Year in 2018.


2 seasons? Going on 4 years now. :eek: :eek:

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/10/18082580/jimmy-butler-traded-minnesota-timberwolves-philadelphia-76ers-dario-saric-robert-covington-northwest


Jimmy Butler traded, Joe Ingles remains best Wing in Northwest Division


:wtf:

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/10/utah-jazz-whats-real-whats-not-west/


Those early-season ups and downs have even made the Jazz, who many presumed would be a staunch force in the West this year, difficult to define. Will they still become the elite team they appeared capable of turning into? Or have they been dramatically over-hyped?


Only so good they can be with Favors, Rubio and Exum

[QUOTE]Sure, they had a lot of turnover in their role and bench players, but as long as Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum are leading this team along with underrated head coach Terry Stotts, I

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/09/victory-sweet-ingles-crowder-come-big-utah-jazz-win-hayward-celtics/


On the flip side, Gordon Hayward struggled in his return to Salt Lake for the most part as he continues to work his way back to his former explosiveness and athleticism. He logged 25 minutes, the fewest of any Celtics starter, and finished with 13 points on inefficient clips of 3-of-9 from the field and 1-of-5 from deep. He did dish out seven assists, though, which were an encouraging sign for him of his playmaking ability with his new teammates.


Not surprised to hear Boston fans say Hayward sucks but for someone that watched him play at his best to think he struggled? His shot was off. He looked mostly the same to me otherwise though.

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: Jingles, on HaywardMania coming to its close:

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That

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900041481/utah-jazz-guard-dante-exum-has-love-for-utah-reaffirmed-through-mall-autograph-session.html

[QUOTE]

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/11/utah-jazz-will-jimmy-butler-trade-impact-division-rival-eastern-conference-nemesis/


The addition of Saric and Covington should be positive for the Timberwolves as well. Both are hard-working players that excel in their respective roles and should be nice pieces for Minnesota. Both can space the floor effectively, and Covington should help Minnesota have a solid defensive option on the perimeter. Not only that, but Minnesota has long struggled with depth, and adding both those players could remedy that situation.


Might be deeper than the deepest team in the league the Jazz. :lol

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/11/utah-jazz-week-five-outlook-familiar-foes-road/4/

[QUOTE]Having a group of stars is a nice theory, but when they aren

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https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2018/11/09/boston-celtics-gordon-hayward-return-utah/

[QUOTE]Gordon Hayward gave Utah and the Jazz organization everything he had in his time with the franchise. He poured his soul into that team, and was heartbroken when he made the decision to leave. Utah and it

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http://saltcityhoops.com/qa-already-wondering-about-trades-free-agency/

[QUOTE]First off, Favors is a huge asset to the Utah Jazz. It

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http://saltcityhoops.com/could-patience-be-virtuous-for-the-jazz-two-years-in-a-row/

[QUOTE]In hindsight, it seems like these viewpoints were shortsighted, if not outrageous. But nobody can blame them. The prevailing idea in Jazz fandom last January was that Rubio was not going to work out with the Jazz, or at least not playing alongside two big men. It didn

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/12/utah-jazz-memphis-grizzlies-preview-jazz-aim-redemption-vs-grizz/

[QUOTE]Sure, Conley went off for 23 and 28 points, respectively, in the two bouts, and Gasol gave Utah

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[QUOTE]Eric Woodyard: Ricky Rubio remains probable for tonight

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Eric Woodyard: Mike Conley on facing Jazz for 3rd time:

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Entering Monday night

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http://saltcityhoops.com/salt-city-seven-crowder-the-jazz-get-going-goberts-back-road-stretch-looms-more/

[QUOTE]So actually, they moved on from their All-Star forward by not asking anybody to replace him at all. They

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https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2018/11/12/18088366/utah-jazz-quin-snyder-jae-crowder-hugging-will-get-you-misty-eyed-boston-celtics

[QUOTE]And let

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https://fansided.com/2018/11/12/joe-ingles-best-fifth-man-nba/


Ingles is not the team’s best perimeter defender, nor its best rebounder and not its best passer. He doesn’t use a ton of possessions (his 18.8 percent usage rate this season is a career-high) and he doesn’t even really have the ball in his hands all that often — among the 292 players who have played at least 100 minutes this season, Ingles ranks 105th in time of possession percentage, meaning the ball is in his hands about as often as it’s in those of, say, Andre Iguodala.


Arguably their best passer

I'd say he's one of the top 4 players on the team for the 3rd straight year. 1-Gobert, 2-Crowder and then Mitchell and Ingles not necessarily in that order this year

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[QUOTE]Two days later, the Jazz traded for Ricky Rubio, but he wasn

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: Raul Neto has been cleared to practice and will join the SLC Stars for a rehab stint. The Jazz guard hasn

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http://saltcityhoops.com/utahs-second-half-offense-delivers-memphiss-1st-home-loss-96-88/

[QUOTE]Oddly enough, the offensive breakout resulted from Utah

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Word is the Wolves did try to engage Washington — another team falling well short of expectations — in trade talks for the sharpshooting guard Bradley Beal. But the Wizards have kept Beal off limits amid their 4-9 start. They would naturally prefer to trade the struggling Otto Porter, or perhaps even John Wall, but both possess hard-to-move contracts. My pal Zach Lowe at ESPN recently did a deep dive on just how hard Wall will be to trade once his “supermax” contract extension kicks in next season. – via New York Times


Rubio, Exum, Favors for Porter and Wall somewhere else? 3rd team?

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[QUOTE]Mirotic eats this up. When asked if he likes the fit in New Orleans, his face beams.

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https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-power-rankings/2018/11/14/18089476/nba-power-rankings-utah-jazz-week-four-national-media-not-impressed-with-boston-celctics-win

[QUOTE]Jae Crowder is just a little delusional when he claims the Celtics know they made a mistake by giving him up in the Kyrie Irving deal, but he has made a major impact since the Cavaliers rerouted him to Utah. He

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https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2018/11/14/18094518/2018-nba-utah-jazz-derrick-favors-three-pointers

[QUOTE]Favors work ethic to improve his game has been impressive. For him to continue to develop his game this far into his career is fantastic. If he can continue hitting threes, and stay healthy, there

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/14/utah-jazz-raul-neto-cup-coffee-g-league-return-imminent/


This guy is clearly due some good luck, and the Jazz could definitely use him for point guard depth. He’s a nice player to have when, say, Ricky Rubio goes 3-for-11 and fouls out with just two assists (as he did against the Memphis Grizzlies)…or when Dante Exum gets pulled for the night after an embarrassing 2:37 against the Boston Celtics.


and he still wouldn't have played. Doesn't have enough length :rant


Despite the litany of problems he had last year, he still put up 4.5 points per game in limited action and was a 40-percent 3-point shooter. Moreover, the Jazz rocked the opposition when Neto played; his net rating of 10.2 was the highest on the squad among rotation regulars.


They were certainly a lot better early last year when he was on the floor instead of Rubio

He should replace Allen on the 13 dressed players though. Send Allen to the G-league and get him ready to help later in the year

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/13/utah-jazz-dallas-mavericks-preview-jazz-seek-third-win-dallas/

[QUOTE]With the exception of Donovan Mitchell

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/13/utah-jazz-daryl-morey-pins-matt-harpring-as-rival-player-hed-love-on-his-team/

[QUOTE]Morey

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/13/utah-jazz-jae-crowder-found-perfect-home/


I remember clearly when I first took note of Jae Crowder. He was playing for the Dallas Mavericks at the time, and I was feeling frustrated but impressed by how this huge guy with long hair was canning threes and hustling hard, making life difficult for my Utah Jazz, even as a role player.


I saw him in college in the tournament against BYU first


Crowder played hard for the Jazz through the remainder of the season, providing a gritty edge and much-appreciated hustle for a team that had lost Thabo Sefolosha, their primary stretch four, to injury. Jae quickly endeared himself to Jazz Nation as a fan favorite.


He was platooning with Jonas but why would you know that? :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]Not only that; Crowder also fit seamlessly into Utah

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46427937/jazz-fall-by-50-coach-players-try-to-make-sense-of-historic-loss

Trying to win by shooting 3's without shooters is insane!

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/11/15/jazz-mavericks-analysis/

[QUOTE]I

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http://saltcityhoops.com/cold-shooting-leads-to-50-point-loss-in-dallas/

[QUOTE]No better play personified the Utah Jazz

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https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2018/11/15/18096300/utah-jazz-lost-by-50-now-what-nba-2018

[QUOTE]This was supposed to be the year the Jazz solidified themselves as the second best team in the West and the only legitimate threat to the Warriors. This was supposed to be the year the Jazz put a complete season together, winning all the games that they are supposed to. Yes, it

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[QUOTE]It

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[QUOTE]League sources said Thon Maker, who makes $2.8 million this season, D.J. Wilson, who makes $2.5 million, or Christian Wood, who makes $1.5 million. would be potential candidates in a Korver-Dellavedova deal. Like Dellavedova, Maker, Wilson and Wood are buried on the Bucks

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/15/utah-jazz-editorial-lets-not-kid-ourselves-this-continuity-plan-isnt-working/

[QUOTE]Utah Jazz Editorial: Let

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https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/251661/Joe-Ingles-Lives-In-The-Now

[QUOTE]We

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Liked Maker as a rookie. Haven't seen much of him. Wood was the best player I saw in the G-league. Not sure why it took so long for someone to get him in the first place
Get a couple more Aussies on the team, can't hurt!

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The gameplan has now become double Mitchell and dare Utah to outshoot you from the 3 line. Outside of Ingles there isn't a consistent shooter on the team, Crowder will occasionally get hot, but if he's taking 9 three's a game you'd be happy with that if you're the opposition.

Rubio, Exum and Favors especially are going to be left open all the time as we saw last year. Get rid of those 3 and the spacing will improve greatly. The D collapses on Gobert and smothers Mitchell. Ingles also having a tough time in the paint.

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Get a couple more Aussies on the team, can't hurt!

as long as they subtract Dante! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25290354/zach-lowe-10-things-like-including-trae-young-nba

big surprise Rudy isnt the problem! :lol

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900042256/jazzs-exum-sixers-simmons-to-fulfill-childhood-dreams-in-first-nba-head-to-head-matchup.html


Exum, 23, is averaging 7.6 points, 2.1 assists and 1.6 rebounds during his fifth season in Utah as a valuable role player, while Simmons has emerged as a potential franchise cornerstone alongside Joel Embiid in Philly. Simmons is putting up 14.5 points, 9.1 rebounds and 7.6 assists for a 9-7 Sixers squad.


That right there tells you the problem with the Jazz. If he's valuable you suck! His value has been that he doesn't suck as bad as Rubio.


In addition to Simmons and Exum, other Aussies around the league on opening night included: Exum’s teammate Joe Ingles (Jazz); Jonah Bolden (Philadelphia); Aron Baynes (Boston); Ryan Broekhoff (Dallas); Matthew Dellavedova (Milwaukee); Kyrie Irving (Celtics) and Patty Mills (San Antonio).


Not counting Maker here. :wtf: :wtf:

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900042250/utah-jazz-now-with-a-target-on-their-back-facing-new-struggles.html

[QUOTE]

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/16/18098925/utah-jazz-philadelphia-76ers-jimmy-butler-ben-simmons-donovan-mitchell

[QUOTE]Meanwhile Utah has leaned hard into continuity. It

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People are getting lost in the noise
Our offense is doing exactly what it’s supposed to do: generating open 3s and looks at the rim. We have been missing open 3s, layups, and free throws at an inordinate rate. That’s exactly
the kind of statistical noise that regresses to the mean. Yeah it’s frustrating to watch, and there’s some psychological snowball effect that plays a role, but you play through the noise. The answer is not to substitute the highest-efficiency plays because of a bad conversion stretch. The answer is not to start chucking 19 footers because "hey let’s try the midrange." The threes the Jazz are getting are not contested. The right answer is you keep shooting and shooting and shooting. Layups will go in. Free throws will go in. Threes will go in. At least at a long-term average rate. To the extent our conversion rates are below average, it’s not systemic.

Defense is a different story, but also subject to some noise. Teams are making the same shots they missed last season. Same distance, same level of pressure. They just happen to be going in. Again – not necessarily systemic or trend worthy. We obviously have rule changes to adjust to, and that’s proving more difficult than expected. But we’re still decidedly average. Not a disaster.

Posted by Korumbian on Nov 16, 2018 | 3:12 PM

The problem is it doesn't matter how many open 3's you generate if you have non shooters firing them. They also have multiple guys that can't finish. Replace the 3 guys that kill them with better shooters and your analysis makes sense. Thabo and Neto were 2 of their best shooters. Niang shot better than Ingles or anyone in the NBA last year with the Stars. Burks has shot well from 3 at times at least in his career.


If your offense generates open looks for a 28% 3pt shooter is that a good offense?
Posted by TheRealDennisLindsey on Nov 16, 2018 | 3:14 PM

Someone gets it. I think it's funny that Bolerjack always says that was a good look and it's Ricky, Exum or Favors bricking it. Is the offense generating those looks or is the defense letting them have those looks? :wtf:


The statistically rational way to look at it
Is to avoid or severely discount the noise of a recent stretch (especially one that’s just a month) and put more stock in the most recent full-season averages and, to a lesser extent, career marks.

Rubio shot 35% last season on all threes. Mitchell 34%. Crowder 32%. Ingles 44%. Burks 33%. Royce 35%. The team as a whole shot 36%. The percentage on wide-open threes was closer to 40%.

Professional basketball players do not inherently regress season-to-season like this, which indicates that the poor shooting is a fluke, not a trend. In that context, the answer is to keep the green light.

Posted by Korumbian on Nov 16, 2018 | 3:27 PM

Those aren't good nymbers outside Ingles though. I think Mitchell will be a great shooter. Burks has been before as has Crowder. I think Royce can be. He seems to lack confidence out there just like the two brickers


I will actually go out on a limb
and say that our record to end the year this season will be close to the same.

The schedule is so ridiculously front-loaded through mid-January that almost every "easy" game on the schedule will happen in the last three months of the year.

Posted by Korumbian on Nov 16, 2018 | 3:15 PM

Not unless they make changes. Crowder was big last year. Getting rid of Johnson and Hood was big. Getting rid of Rubio, Exum(good luck), and Favors and maybe the guys Snyder doesn't like and you may be right. I'm not counting on it. I see them bringing back Rubio and Favors next year as ridicilous as that it.


Is not the record
It’s the bad defense that is worrisome. Part of that is shots not falling, but even the team admits the defense has fallen off. Rule change can’t account for the massive drop off when other top teams from last year are doing fine.

I’m not ready to call for a trade quite yet, but I am getting there. These next three games will be telling. If we bounce back and look good, carry on. If not, I think DL should stay seriously considering trades.

Plus, I doubt we’ve got a shot at Middleton or Harris. A trade may be the only way to get the third star we need to contend

Posted by Bebop on Nov 16, 2018 | 3:23 PM


The defense has looked good at times. They haven't put it all together. Ricky not guarding anyone doesn't help matters and Favors needs to be near the rim not on the perimeter


Miami offered Olynyk as part of trade for Butler.
Olynyk is another player we should look at.

Posted by TheRealDennisLindsey on Nov 16, 2018 | 3:24 PM


Makes a lot of money and not known for d or length I don't believe. Try again

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/15/18097215/utah-jazz-are-an-average-basketball-team-blowout-dallas-mavericks

[QUOTE]This year, Utah has the tough schedule, but are only integrating one new player: Grayson Allen. Georges Niang was around the team as a two way player last year. The team has a franchise best in continuity percentage

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https://www.slcdunk.com/research-statistics-analytics/2018/11/16/18098209/utah-jazz-continuity-dennis-lindsey-quin-snyder-nba-trades

[QUOTE]Utah

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https://deadspin.com/how-the-hell-did-the-jazz-lose-by-50-to-the-mavericks-1830470531

[QUOTE]Before the season started, the Utah Jazz were considered a lock to finish top four in the Western Conference, and many prognosticators even thought they could surpass the Rockets and finish second. Theoretically, Utah seemed likely to rip out of the gates because of continuity, some internal improvement from their best player in his second season, and the return of a stalwart defense that allowed the second-fewest points per possession last year. Why couldn

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/16/utah-jazz-g-league-stars-stone-acquire-washpun/

Miss you Diamond. Could probably use you once Reed is gone which shouldn't be too long from now

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Andy Larsen: Raul Neto is still OUT for tonight

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You like my new avatar Kabong? First change since 2014-15 and the year of the salute

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David Locke: 76ers head coach Brett Brown revealed his first nickname for Joe Ingles

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46429075/naz-mitrou-long-already-feels-connected-to-the-jazz--now-he-wants-to-join-them

He's not there yet. The sad part is he's probably still better than Dante and Rubio because he can hit some shots and layups. :rant :rant

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46429207/looking-at-why-the-jazz-lost-to-the-76ers


“We played with a lot of passion,” Donovan Mitchell said. “Philly is a great team. We had the game in the bags. If we don't make a few mistakes, the game goes the other way.”


Mistakes like the coty playing Rubio and Exum together? Or not changing the matchups when the Sixers had Embiid spot up from 3 to get Rudy away from the basket?


The big one was the Butler play. Embiid set a back screen and Butler ran around it into the paint and was wide open. It wasn’t anything special; a set that's run dozens of times a game by teams. The Jazz just had poor communication on the play. Ingles thought Gobert would help. Gobert didn’t think Ingles needed it. Ingles tried to intercept the pass and when he didn’t, Butler was left all alone.


Expecting Rudy to do it all? :rant


The Jazz were cold from deep against Philly, shooting 18 percent (4-for-22). The thing is: this isn’t a new problem.


The thing is it's not cold when you have one shooter. :wtf:


Utah is great at creating open shots by using off-ball screens to free players up. But open shots still need to be made, and the Jazz aren’t making very many.


They get open looks because the D is sagging into the paint to stop Rudy, Mitchell and Ingles


Before Friday’s game, Donovan Mitchell was shooting 32 percent from 3-point land when defenders were 4 feet or more away, Ricky Rubio was shooting 29 percent on such shots and Jae Crowder was hitting 33 percent of his open triple looks. Those three all shoot more 3-pointers than anyone on the Jazz not named Joe Ingles.


Crowder and Mitchell can do better. That's what you should expect from Ricky. The fact that he is taking more 3's than anyone not named Gobert or Exum is ridiculous! :rolleyes:


Those three Jazzmen are shooting worse than their career averages, but none of them are above average career 3-point shooters in the first place. So more performances like the 4-of-22 could be in Utah’s future.


Who could have expected that going into the season with one shooter? Let's shoot even more 3's than last year! :eek: :eek:


“I took 35 shots — that can’t happen,” Mitchell said. “Zero assists. That’s not who I am, that’s not who I’ve been. I have to be aggressive, but I have to be smart.”

Mitchell was aggressive early, firing up 19 shots in the first half alone. It’s one thing if he hit most of them, but outside a run in the fourth quarter where he displayed some fabulous shot making — a crossover for a midrange jumper and a 3-pointer that put the Jazz up three with under four minutes remaining — he was mostly off the mark. Mitchell finished 13-of-35 and 1-of-11 from 3-point range.

As for the bad shooting?

“We can only get better,” Mitchell said.

We're seeing Ricky and Exum on the court together more and more so actually it could get worse as hard as that is to imagine. Niang and Allen didn't play either. :cry:

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46429168/butler-embiid-lead-sixers-past-jazz-113-107


"We competed but we have to be smarter," Jazz coach Quin Snyder said. "We had some mistakes where we have to think more. They add up against a team like this."


You have to be smarter. Rubio, Exum and Favors are killing you and now you are playing Exum and Rubio together? I know you are smarter than the rest of us but :wtf:

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/11/17/jazz-sixers-analysis-by/

[QUOTE]Mental mistake category one: Ricky Rubio

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900042568/donovan-mitchell-ben-simmons-rookie-beef-put-to-rest-in-sophomore-seasons.html


In their first head-to-head battle since the much-publicized 2017-18 Rookie of the Year race, Simmons got the edge against Mitchell, ending with a near triple double with 10 points, eight rebounds and eight assists.


debatable. Simmons wasn't that good. 2 rebounds and 2 assists is a lot. Not near a triple double.

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Rubio was an elite defender as a 16 year old playing in the Olympics gold medal game. He was an elite defender when he entered the NBA. And he is an elite defender now. People who know basketball, such as Snyder, understand this, which is one reason Rubio keeps on appearing as a Jazz starter.

Posted by yasky2 on Nov 17, 2018 | 2:07 AM


People that watch him see him behind his man or on no man and gambling for steals. Because of Rudy he gets away with a lot of that crap. Elite length doesn't make elite defender though the Jazz seem to think it does. Neto is a much better defender too bad about his length

[QUOTE]One other thing.
Quinn is in a tough situation with the starting line up. First, Favs is NOT the reason for the 1st team struggles and I think Quinn knows that. Rubio and Donovan have got to shoot better. When Favs is your 4th best 3 point shooter (that is not a typo) at 35%, your team is not going to win many games. Either Ricky or Favs has to suck it up and take themselves out of the starting line up or someone below them has to be ready to go. Again I am a big Exum fan, but he hasn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/16/18099593/utah-jazz-philadelphia-76ers-jimmy-butler-joe-ingles-donovan-mitchell


Ricky Rubio and Jae Crowder got caught on a miscommunication with Ben Simmons handling the ball on the perimeter. Neither one communicated the screen nor the switch which ended with Jae Crowder being screened out of the play by his own man, Ricky Rubio. The play allowed Ben Simmons a wide open layup.


You deserve to lose with Ricky on the floor

[QUOTE]Thabo Sefolosha had 2 points and 6 rebounds, but his bigger contribution came on the defensive end. Lineups where he was on the court just did better. This was the first time since Sefolosha

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/17/utah-jazz-boston-celtics-can-jazz-find-shot-beat-boston-anew/

[QUOTE]Unfortunately, I

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Tony Jones: Jazz PG Raul Neto is AVAILABLE for tonight

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[QUOTE]Paul Garcia: Right now, 14 of the 15 teams out West are winning over 41% of their games.

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/17/18100422/staff-reactions-philadelphia-76ers-utah-jazz-game-slc-dunk-post-game

[QUOTE]Andrew Bailey: Well, the team was preaching that before the season even started, right? Maybe they were trying to brace us with that message. Maybe they were as nervous about the preseason optimism as I was. Those

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/17/18100358/2018-nba-utah-jazz-vs-boston-celtics-game-preview

[QUOTE]The only reliable force has been Joe Ingles and Rudy Gobert. At some point something has to change or do you just continue to bang your head against a wall that isn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/17/18099583/utah-jazz-starting-lineup-shakeup-favors-rubio-crowder

[QUOTE]And the reasons aren

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/17/one-way-or-another-the-utah-jazz-have-to-find-some-shooting/

[QUOTE]Part of this trend has to do simply with misfortune. The Jazz won

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Andy Larsen: Quin Snyder on Donovan Mitchell

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Raul Neto, though he was listed as available to play this afternoon, is on the team

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Tom Westerholm: Quin Snyder:

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Jay King: Brad Stevens said no limitations for Gordon Hayward even on a back to back after playing 39 minutes last night.

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: Joe Ingles and Brad Stevens having words there

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Scott Agness: Victor Oladipo, still bothered by that right knee, exits and heads right back to the locker room with head athletic trainer Josh Corbeil.

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/17/utah-jazz-trade-target-jonathon-simmons/

[QUOTE]Now, Simmons isn

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Against Philadelphia, Mitchell drew heat from national media for his 31-point, zero-assist night, becoming the first since Carmelo Anthony in 2014 with at least 35 field goals and no assists. During the Boston victory, Mitchell remained aggressive, but looked to find others as well, starting 5-for-7 from the field.

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46429752/how-donovan-mitchell-bounced-back-against-the-celtics

[QUOTE]It was an improvement over past games, but the Jazz still didn

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/11/18/triple-team-andy-larsens/

[QUOTE]We

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/17/18100784/utah-jazz-revenge-game-2-gordon-hayward

[QUOTE]If the Jazz hadn

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Eric Woodyard: Indiana Pacers star Victor Oladipo is questionable vs. Utah with right knee soreness.

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Jayson Tatum and Donovan Mitchell have a lot in common. They were lottery picks in the 2017 draft

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[QUOTE]As the Washington Wizards

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/18/utah-jazz-indiana-pacers-preview-jazz-aim-close-road-trip-strong/

[QUOTE]So therein lies the dilemma, if Oladipo plays, I think that the Pacers will have the edge over the Jazz. Not only will Indy

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https://sircharlesincharge.com/2018/11/17/nba-backcourt-power-rankings-lillard-curry-thompson/4/


The Utah Jazz have been disappointing to start the season, but the engine behind their success is still the play of Ricky Rubio and Donovan Mitchell, who will have a huge hand in this team turning around the season.


:roll:

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J. Michael Falgoust: McMillan calls Oladipo doubtful.

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http://saltcityhoops.com/sc7-process-results/

[QUOTE]That

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Georges Niang will be inactive tonight, while Raul Neto will be available for the first time.

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46430936/they-had-more-how-the-jazz-lost-to-oladipo-less-pacers

[QUOTE]Not all turnovers are created equal. The ones the Jazz were committing were the brutal ones. Half of Indiana

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/11/20/jazz-pacers-analysis-by/

[QUOTE]I

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https://uproxx.com/dimemag/derrick-favors-utah-jazz-future/2/

[QUOTE]The NBA has evolved in recent years so that players like Favors

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https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2018/11/20/18104138/kyle-lowry-utah-jazz-royce-oneale-jae-crowder


He goes on to quote some and other sources, including Andy Larsen at the Tribune, that illustrated how confident the Jazz felt in landing Lowry heading into that summer. I know that this is beating a dead horse and all, but can you imagine a talent like Kyle Lowry on this team right now!?


No because they already had Rubio. Don't see how that made much sense other than Rubio sucks

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/19/18103967/jazz-need-to-start-crowder-in-place-of-ingles-start-thebalosha-niang


Start Thebalosha/Niang at power forward.
By BellFrazierRookies on Nov 19, 2018, 7:05pm MST +

With Rubio, Mitchell and Gobert. 2nd team-Favors, Thebalosha/Niang/Ingles, Ingles/O'neill Burks Exum/Neto.

Maybe use ingles as a part time power forward and O'neill as backup small forward.

Exum Ingles are struggling and Favors not doing much at starting power forward.

Trade Favors and Exum to get a real inside/outside power forward.

I'd say Gobert/Mitchell/Crowder/Ingles have to start. After that it would be out of Thabo/Neto or Burks for the other spot

Who's taking Exum's contract? Rubio and Favors certainly need to go even if it's a buyout

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/20/utah-jazz-uninspired-effort-oladipo-less-pacers/

[QUOTE]Although the Pacers boast an impressive young frontcourt with Domantas Sabonis and Myles Turner, it

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46431510/a-long-road-jazz-trying-to-navigate-a-travel-heavy-first-couple-months


So if Utah can at least tread water until then, it should be in a good position to make a run down the stretch. And less-than-inspiring losses to the Mavericks and Pacers notwithstanding, the Jazz have mostly done just that.


The problem with that thinking is that they've been a better road team through most of Quin's tenure


But the tough early schedule could be starting to pay a toll. After Monday’s loss, the Jazz admitted they didn’t have the same type of energy as the Pacers. Could that have been a direct result of being on the road for over a week?


Just the latest excuse. One thing that is constant. Maybe it's just a roster that is asked to shoot 3's and can't hit them

Or a team that passes more than anyone and thus has a ton of turnovers?

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/20/utah-jazz-strange-jae-crowder-offensive-issue/


That said, the statistic makes plain the fact that the Jazz are sorely lacking shot creators; players that can generate their own offense. Crowder may be the most glaring example, but the Jazz roster is teaming with players whose only offensive recourse is to get to a spot and wait for a pass.


Burks. Unleash him. Won't happen :rant

[QUOTE]Time will tell if this is something that can (or needs to) be overcome, but I tend to think it will ultimately limit the team

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/20/utah-jazz-far-too-early-2019-free-agent-wish-list/

[QUOTE]And let

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/20/utah-jazz-vs-sacramento-kings-will-home-court-help-jazz-break-funk/

[QUOTE]The Jazz have unfortunately been one of the league

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https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-power-rankings/2018/11/21/18104719/nba-power-rankings-week-five-will-the-real-utah-jazz-please-stand-up-dallas-mavericks-boston-celtics

[QUOTE]It

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[QUOTE]Several problems on this team.
Not just a few.
Center: We

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https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2018/11/21/18106123/2018-nba-utah-jazz-washington-wizards-trade


Surely the Jazz can offer something better. What do you think it would take to get either Bradley Beal or Otto Porter on the Jazz?


Not sure they have enough for Beal but I'd offer everything but Gobert and Mitchell for him. Porter can be had. They want to get rid of his contract. If the Jazz want him they can get him. But it might mean some combination of Favors and Rubio if not both and you know they don't want to get rid of those guys. :rant

[QUOTE]If you haven

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/21/utah-jazz-vs-sacramento-kings-key-match-big-time-backcourt-battle/

[QUOTE]The key to a Utah Jazz victory against Sacramento will be slowing the dynamic backcourt duo of Buddy Hield and De

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https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/251711/Markelle-Fultz-Prefers-Fresh-Start-With-New-Team

They take Exum for him? He can't shoot. What do the Jazz got to lose?

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https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/251707/G-League-Hires-Allison-Feaster-Rod-Strickland-For-Professional-Path-Initative

sounds good

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46432239/thanksgiving-week-5-things-utah-jazz-fans-should-be-thankful-for-this-year


Utah Jazz head coach Quin Snyder is one of the best coaches in the NBA. He joined the Jazz ahead of the 2014-15 season and has helped to improve the team over the years. Last years performance was his most impressive, as his team finished the season with a 48-34 record and won a first-round playoff series despite losing All-Star Gordon Hayward in the offseason. Utah started off last season terribly and were able to turn it around. So for any Jazz fans upset the Jazz have started off this season 8-9, be grateful for Snyder; he has already turned a season around once.


Keep giving others the credit when all we've ever really seen is the Jazz don't suck with Rudy. :facepalm

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While I was talking to Korver, Rodney Hood

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[QUOTE]Rudy Gobert was visibly upset at how he defended against the Kings, in particular against Willie Cauley-Stein, who scored 23 points and did so on 11-of-15 shooting from the field.

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46432392/cauley-stein-scores-23-as-kings-beat-jazz-119-110


"We have to be able to defend better to win," coach Quin Snyder said. "If I could point to one thing, it's our communication. That's the thing that links you together and makes you be able to defend as a group."


Thabo and Neto were on the bench. They defend and can hit open looks. A big part of their defensive problems come from the turnovers and long rebounds off the 3's. Kings weren't that good in the half court

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46432376/kings-run-by-jazz-119-110

[QUOTE]The Kings set the tone early with a fast-break filled first quarter that saw them jump out to a 34-23 lead. Coming off a five-game road trip, the Jazz

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/11/22/jazz-kings-analysis-by/

[QUOTE]And then late, it was a matter of communication. The players all sprinted back, but they were confused about who was guarded and who wasn

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043393/jazz-struggle-again-with-poor-3-point-shooting-in-disheartening-loss-to-sacramento.html


The Jazz, who came into the game as one of the worst 3-point shooting teams in the NBA, hit only 12 of 39 from long range in the disheartening defeat that dropped them to 8-10 on the season and 2-5 at home.


Who could have foresaw this? Certainly not coty who thought these non shooters should take even more 3's while 4 of his best shooters don't even leave the bench!

[QUOTE]fortydam-OREM, UT
It sure seems that Quinn has built a team that he feels can shoot 30 plus threes a night and win. Long rebounds off bad shooting promotes fast break points that any defense would struggle with. The high pick and roll is easily defended, and the blender is nothing more than one guy diving to the hoop.

Under this predictable offense the Jazz are going to need a stretch four that can shoot threes. It doesn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2018/11/22/18107637/utah-jazz-thanksgiving-be-grateful-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-jae-crowder

[QUOTE]On the eve of the Thanksgiving holiday, the Jazz dropped another one at home to the Sacramento Kings. They fell to 8-10 overall, and 2-5 at home. It seems, at this point of the season, that the Jazz are not who everyone thought they were coming into this season. And that

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/21/18107620/utah-jazz-sacramento-kings-deaaron-fox-donovan-mitchell

[QUOTE]After another lackluster performance at home, the Jazz drop to 8-10 overall and 2-5 at home. It

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/22/utah-jazz-three-things-thankful-thanksgiving-2/

[QUOTE]And despite the disappointing loss, you had to absolutely love Mitchell

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[QUOTE]So assuming you also are asking about the roster, the move that makes the most sense would be flipping Wayne Ellington for a draft choice or younger, lower-cost prospect, as a means of also working toward getting out of the luxury tax (not because of the cash implications, but rather the pesky longer-term ramifications of the luxury tax). In many ways, Wayne, with his professionalism, sets up as the perfect specialist for a contender one 3-point shooter away from a higher level of competiveness. That said, there are two factors at play: 1. Wayne cannot be dealt until Dec. 15, after signing this offseason as a free agent. 2. As an impending Bird Rights free agent on a one-year contract, Wayne has the right to veto any trade. That said, I would be believe that playing for a contender, and therefore showcasing himself for a contender in advance of his next entry into free agency, could prove enticing enough to acquiesce. Otherwise, it

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46432429/jazz-going-through-a-different-kind-of-build-this-season

[QUOTE]

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043431/jazz-are-back-on-the-road-to-face-lebron-and-the-lakers-after-another-home-loss.html

[QUOTE]SALT LAKE CITY

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/22/utah-jazz-lessons-learned-from-this-seasons-wins-and-losses


The biggest worry for many has been the seeming lack of effort at times, paired with defensive woes. This past week in particular has not been pretty. Starting with a 50-point loss to Dallas, then a 121-94 loss to an Indiana Pacers team playing without their best player, and most recently, the team was run off the floor at home by the Sacramento Kings.


Biggest worry is a GM and coach that think this mess can work and ownership that will let them keep thinking that


Similar to last season, the NBA schedulers did the Jazz no favors in regards to the first half of the season. Currently tied for the most road games played in the NBA, and having played the fourth hardest schedule in the league per basketball-reference, the rough schedule is only going to continue as we enter into December and head to the New Year.


Top teams win most of their games regardless


Shooting consistency is important


If they had shooters you could feel confident that things would improve. They don't have good shooters and most of the ones they do have don't play!

[QUOTE]Despite the Jazz often taking the right shots, sometimes you don

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[QUOTE]Not only that, but I mentioned misses upon misses drastically hurting the Jazz, and each of those three aforementioned guys is guilty of that as well. We all have witnessed Rubio

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/23/utah-jazz-problems-collective-several-individual-deficiencies-contributing/

[QUOTE]Some are pointing fingers at Utah

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/23/utah-jazz-los-angeles-lakers-preview-jazz-must-show-urgency/

[QUOTE]And those transition opportunities aren

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/23/18109104/utah-jazz-los-angeles-lakers-game-preview-black-friday-lebron-james-rudy-gobert-donovan-mitchell

[QUOTE]Utah

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/23/utah-jazz-alumni-al-jefferson-big-al-china/


His footwork, post moves and professionalism were beloved by Utah Jazz fans for three years. Big Al averaged about 18 points and 10 rebounds per game as a member of the Jazz. He only led them to the playoffs once, but the Jazz were always a competitive team when equipped with his services.


despite him you mean

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Eric Woodyard: Jazz coach Quin Snyder was honest in his assessment of the team

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[QUOTE]Utah Jazz guard Donovan Mitchell suffered a rib contusion and missed the entire second half of Friday

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46433439/the-good-and-bad-of-the-jazzs-loss-to-the-lakers

[QUOTE]

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/11/24/jazz-lakers-analysis-by/

[QUOTE]With or without Mitchell, the Jazz

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043569/jazz-drop-3rd-consecutive-game-in-flat-post-thanksgiving-performance-to-lakers.html


Poor shooting (check).

A bevy of turnovers (check).

Unsightly execution (check).

Rubio and Exum suck check. Favor is a backup that starts check. Snyder and Lindsey are responsible for this mess check. :rant

[QUOTE]After falling to 8-11 on the season, Jazz coach Quin Snyder admitted beforehand that the team

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043584/what-the-heck-is-going-wrong-in-the-utah-jazzs-disappointing-8-11-start-to-season.html


Utah also holds the fifth-worst offensive rating (104.7) while sometimes lacking a sense of urgency in certain situations. With nearly a quarter of the 82-game regular season now in the books, the Jazz have dropped from a promising fifth seed playoff contender on the rise last season to 14th place in the highly competitive Western Conference, where 4.5 games separate orders 1-14 in the standings.


4.5 games is a lot already. It's time to do something coach and GM. Time to stop saying it's early and the schedule will get easier. Favors and Rubio need to be benched. They will immediatley get off to better starts. Niang, Neto and Thabo all need to be in the mix. Allen needs to go to the GLeague until he's ready. I'd look to trade Rubio and Favors minimum probably Burks, Thabo and Neto who the coach doesn't appreciate. Why are they back to begin with? Ideally you get some shooters in return. But who they get back isn't as important as just getting rid of guys that don't belong and trying someone else. I wish the owners would get rid of the GM who would get rid of the coach but that won't happen. They have like 3 other GM's in the mix already. You'd think someone would have a clue!


Part of the problem is that guys may be feeling like they can tap back into last year’s success, with much of the same roster in place, but are also dealing with the pressure of no longer catching teams by surprise.


just more excuses. The one thing that never runs out!:lol


The effort on the defensive end has regressed early on, especially in transition situations, while Ricky Rubio’s play has been up-and-down and opponents are regularly attacking reigning Defensive Player of the Year Rudy Gobert at the rim. Also, Donovan Mitchell is averaging 20.6 points per game but is shooting just 41.8 percent and a consistent second option has yet to emerge offensively.


Ricky is mostly down but please get another quote from him about what's wrong. He's the main thing which goes to Snyder and Lindsey


“It’s hard to tell. We had some off nights lately but we just have to stay aggressive and it will come,” Rubio said after going 3-for-12 with seven points and five assists versus Los Angeles. “We have to get more easy shots like we have been doing and make them.”


You and Exum and Favors will have easy shots all night long. You either brick them or don't even look at the rim which hurts just as bad

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[QUOTE]If Donovan is out next game, it would be nice to see Quin start Alec Burks to try to replace Donovan

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/24/18109617/utah-jazz-los-angeles-lakers-ingram-mitchell-ball-burks-

[QUOTE]That

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https://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/nigel-williams-goss-1.html

Looks like Goss is doing pretty well still. Numbers are down playing in Greece. Better league and Euroleague I imagine

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https://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/teams/olympiakos/2019_greek-basket-league.html

Pretty good team he isn't the best player this year!

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Looks like he is one of the best players on one of the best teams in Europe. Gotta think he'll be with the Jazz or Stars next year

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/24/utah-jazz-poor-shooting-la-microcosm-seasons-bigger-issue/

[QUOTE]During that seven-game stretch, the Jazz are dead last in the NBA in both categories. Dead. Last. They

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[QUOTE]The Milwaukee Bucks are waiving guard Jodie Meeks, league sources told ESPN. Meeks

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[QUOTE]While national viewership has started slower than last season, several local markets are seeing impressive gains to date. The addition of James in the offseason has helped Spectrum SportsNet to a 39% gain. The Nuggets have also impressed in the standings early on, and ratings in Denver on Altitude are up 160%. Rookie Mavericks G Luka Doncic has drawn the interest of viewers in the Dallas-Ft. Worth market, with game ratings up 86% despite sitting near the bottom of the Western Conference standings. Coming off an impressive playoff run, Jazz game ratings in Salt Lake City are up 59% on AT&T SportsNet Rocky Mountain. The Rockets also continue to draw despite a slow start, with ratings on AT&T SportsNet Southwest up 80% in Houston to date.

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Some sources have said that, despite the team’s statements, Fultz is no longer in the Sixers’ long-term plans. And they are no longer using his shoulder as an excuse for his performances. – via Philadelphia Inquirer

If the 76ers have tired of this saga and are considering trading Fultz, and multiple sources said they are, his trade value must have declined a great deal since the start of the season. The team might be able to get a late-first-round pick for Fultz from a desperate club willing to take a chance, or the Sixers could try for a player with an expiring contract. That would enable them to avoid paying the $9.7 million that Fultz is guaranteed for next season. Butler is expected to opt out of the final year of his deal, and the money saved by trading Fultz could allow the Sixers to re-sign Butler and another top free agent. – via Philadelphia Inquirer

On Wednesday, The Athletic reported that Fultz is also dealing with a right wrist injury in addition to the shoulder ailment. According to that report, sources also said that Fultz would prefer a fresh start with another team. Later, Brothers denied the report. – via Philadelphia Inquirer

He could be worth taking a flier on. Got to be better than Rubio and Exum at the very least. Maybe they'd take Favors? Not sure they'd have any need for our pg's outside Neto. Jazz have the expiring deals. Thabo might make sense.

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Looks like Exum straight across might work but they wouldn't want him other than he's buddies with Simmons

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Burks or Burks and Bradley works. They have an open roster spot. Like to keep Bradley hitting step back 3's now!

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Thabo or Thabo/Bradley or Thabo/Udoh or all 3 work. Exum/Favors/Neto can't be traded yet. Thabo they could use and Udoh would be a nice depth piece as well. burks could add scoring. Bradley is like a first rounder except he's shown something at the Gleague level anyway unlike Exum!

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Can't shoot any worse than the rest of the team and what if he puts it together ??

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/24/wayne-ellington-trade-bait-utah-jazz-all-over/

[QUOTE]The Jazz would have to wait until December 15th to make a move on Ellington, since he signed a contract with Miami over the summer. But what will it take to get him? Winderman suggests a draft pick or young prospect could do the trick. You

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/24/utah-jazz-sacramento-kings-slumping-jazz-aim-payback/

[QUOTE]If the Jazz hope to turn things around to dish out some payback to the Kings on their home floor, they

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/24/utah-jazz-need-clarity-derrick-favors-front/

[QUOTE]Favors definitely isn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/24/18110395/utah-jazz-transition-defense-turnovers-points-off-turnovers

[QUOTE]Remember in Iron Man 3 when everyone chased after the Red Herring of a Villain they thought was the Mandarin, but then they came to find out, it was a fake? That

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/24/18109879/utah-jazz-mailbag-answers-to-questions-about-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-ricky-rubio-and-more


So, again, if Washington just wants to clear space, Utah could send two or three of its expiring deals, a draft pick (or two) and maybe Grayson Allen (if Washington has any interest in him).


Doubt that is enough. If it is than they'd be stupid not to do it. Snyder without a Duke player is a plus as well

[QUOTE]I still think they can get homecourt advantage. The schedule will get easier. There

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/25/18111165/utah-jazz-sacramento-kings-donovan-mitchell-injury-report-rib-contusion

[QUOTE]The most logical answer is Alec Burks. While his defense is suspect at a lot of times, offensively he can be a Donovan Mitchell-lite and he can get to the free throw line. He

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/25/utah-jazz-sacramento-kings-can-gobert-contain-cauley-stein/

[QUOTE]As much as it pains me to say it, between team-wide defensive issues making life difficult for Gobert and his own personal mistakes and miscues, it

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/25/utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-sundays-contest-sacramento/

[QUOTE]The lone bit of good news is that Mitchell did indeed participate in portions of practice on Saturday meaning that his long-term prognosis could very well be not all that bad. I don

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James Ham: Kings injury report: Kosta Koufos-OUT (right calf strain) Iman Shumpert-OUT (load management)

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[QUOTE]

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/11/26/jazz-kings-analysis-by/

[QUOTE]Quin Snyder finally made the change some have been anticipating since the end of last year, with Derrick Favors coming off the bench, putting Jae Crowder in the starting lineup. How did it work? The Jazz got the win, so first impressions are pretty good, but as always, it

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46435035/derrick-favors-team-first-approach-highlights-jazz-win

[QUOTE]Shoot more 3-pointers? Sure. Guard stretch 4s

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46434880/thats-more-like-it-jazz-top-kings-to-end-losing-skid


"Anytime you can get going, he is allowed to do that," Jazz coach Quin Snyder said. "When he has open looks, we want him to take them."


Therein lies the biggest problem with the team

[QUOTE]"I

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043789/no-mitchell-but-jazz-get-a-total-team-effort-in-easy-win-over-sacramento.html

[QUOTE]Rubio, who has had his share of ups and downs this year with some very poor shooting nights as well as some excellent ones, was the catalyst for the Jazz. With Mitchell out with a rib injury, Rubio knew he had to take up the slack, and he did it early, as he scored nine of Utah

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043787/jazz-will-keep-taking-3-pointers-as-they-try-to-break-out-of-slump-from-long-range.html

[QUOTE]Even though the Jazz are taking a record number of 3-pointers this season (31.8) and have built an offense around 3-pointers and shots at the rim, he pointed out that the Jazz only took around 20 3-pointers in their last game at Los Angeles (actually, it was 23). He didn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/25/18111991/utah-jazz-sacramento-kings-game-recap-ricky-rubio-donovan-mitchell

[QUOTE]Raul Neto and Thabo Sefolosha finally looked like themselves out there on the floor. Neto even had some key plays in the third and fourth quarters that helped keep the Kings at bay. Royce O

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/26/utah-jazz-raul-neto-breakthrough-game-sacramento/

[QUOTE]When Raul Neto plays, he can be effective and make an impact for the Utah Jazz. The problem is that he hasn

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/26/utah-jazz-week-seven-outlook-jazz-change-fortune/2/

[QUOTE]Yes, Ricky Rubio will have to shoot well once again, which is hard to bank on, but Indy

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/25/utah-jazz-scuffling-quarter-northwest-power-rankings/3/


Elsewhere on the roster, Derrick Rose has turned back the clock (at nearly 20 and five with a 49-48-86 shooting line) and Andrew Wiggins (16-4, 38-37-75) is looking like the biggest overpay in the Association.


Pay him to shoot 37 % from 3 or pay Ricky, Exum and Favors 45 million to clank them all night? :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE]Also

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https://sircharlesincharge.com/2018/11/25/utah-jazz-best-landing-spot-carmelo-anthony/

:roll:

[QUOTE]Enter Carmelo Anthony. What the Jazz need most is a player that can demand double teams and create their own offense. That is part of the reason general manager Dennis Lindsey signed Joe Johnson late last season to give the Jazz a player that could boost the offense as Johnson is affectionately known as

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Eric Woodyard: Donovan Mitchell is out again tonight vs. Indiana with a rib contusion.

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[QUOTE]Scott Agness: Victor Oladipo (right knee soreness) won

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Basketball-Reference: Last night was D-Wade

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/26/18113392/2018-nba-utah-jazz-indiana-pacers-donovan-mitchell-ricky-rubio-victor-oladipo

[QUOTE]Speaking of crazy, the Jazz are in 14th place in the Western Conference right now, but are only 4.5 games out of first place. It sometimes feels like the season is over when I watch the Jazz shoot 4-28 from deep, but it

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/26/utah-jazz-need-start-jae-crowder-pf-permanent/

[QUOTE]Utah Jazz: Jae Crowder

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: Derrick Favors will return to the starting lineup tonight, league sources tell The Athletic

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They got booed tonight. Wonder if that's ever happened? Exum took the most shots. That's really all you need to know! :wtf:

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/11/27/jazz-pacers-analysis-by/

[QUOTE]The Jazz, especially this version of the Jazz without Donovan Mitchell, can

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http://saltcityhoops.com/pacers-crush-deflated-jazz-121-to-88/

[QUOTE]Utah

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http://saltcityhoops.com/salt-city-seven-fixing-the-jazz-favors-and-rubio-sneaking-up-and-more/

[QUOTE]But I still view this as an untapped weapon: the fact that he can get there at will makes him really special. Eventually he

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46435754/whats-the-problem-the-jazz-try-to-explain-after-blowout-loss-to-pacers

[QUOTE]

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https://www.ksl.com/article/46435694/utah-blown-out-by-indiana-at-home-121-88


The Jazz once again went through long periods where they struggled to make shots. Ricky Rubio was 2-for-8, Burks was 2-for-7, Crowder was 2-for-9 and Dante Exum was 3-for-10 on the night. The Jazz missed shots from deep (8-for-30 from 3-point range) and pretty much everywhere else.


No surprise at a couple of the names on the list.

[QUOTE]The performance made the handwringing some fans had on whether Derrick Favors or Crowder should start games seem downright inconsequential. Because in the end, it didn

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043945/3-takeaways-from-the-utah-jazzs-121-88-loss-to-the-indiana-pacers.html


The Jazz continued to really struggle with their long range shots, with a 3-point percentage of 25.8. In spite of the slump, Utah did not shy away from attempting the shot, taking a total of 31 3-point attempts and making eight.


Can't shoot but shoot as many as you can!


These "takeaway" articles merely restate a few statistics, which anyone can read in the box scores. The articles would be much more interesting with some insights behind the statistics. Tell us what's going on with this team, for example. Why can't anyone score? Why doesn't Gobert get a lot more touches? He should average 20 points a game because no one can stop him.


Because they don't have scorers? Because it's hard to get Gobert the ball without shooters

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043954/utah-jazz-get-blown-out-again-lose-to-indiana-pacers-121-88.html

[QUOTE]

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043953/sixteen-sorta-kinda-positive-things-about-the-jazzs-33-point-loss.html

[QUOTE]

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/27/18113876/who-are-the-utah-jazz

[QUOTE]Who is this Jazz team? They have no identity and no consistency. For bringing almost the entire team back, they sure look like they have some gelling and adapting to do. I realize their schedule has been difficult. But that

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/21/18107645/whats-the-point-in-rooting-for-the-jazz-anymore-they-wont-try-to-win


Another loss at home, this time to the Kings. An 8-10 record which puts them at (as of this writing) 13th in the West and they could end up hopelessly buried by Christmas. They're 2-5 at home. They're going to use the same excuses: the season is early, tough front-loaded schedule, so many games on the road, blah, blah, blah. And the sad part is management continues to do nothing but sit on their hands, not willing to admit their 'continuity' idea is a bust. The West got better. Other teams got new faces and their draft picks are blooming, while the Jazz stood pat just basking in the previous season's success. It's looking like a wasted year when we could have finally got our championship parade down State Street.


The fact that anyone thought bringing everyone back was a good idea is ridiculous. Parade in Utah! :roll:


Why should they continue to get our support? This is a team that's not willing to compete for a championship every year. Notice I didn't say not able, just not willing. We have most of the talent, but the pieces aren't fitting together. We need to make some lineup changes and bring in some new talent through trades. Ricky Rubio needs to be cast out of Salt Lake. Guys need to be benched even if it means bruising some egos. The Wizards are willing to part with some of their talent and they can be brought to Salt Lake to give the Jazz a much needed shot in the arm if they'll talk to them and make the needed sacrifices. This is a season that can still be salvaged, and a top seed is still possible, but these moves need to be made now instead of waiting until January. Trouble is it requires Dennis Lindsay and Quin Snyder to make the needed moves and they seem disinterested in doing either.


Never been all in and with the Legacy Trust it looks like never will be


So once again I ask, what is the point of supporting a team that won't even try for the title? Why not just let the world see a lot of empty seats in the Vint? The Jazz are not a farm team. We did our tanking period, we developed enough talent, now it should be title or bust every year no matter what the cost. Why can't management see that?


I wouldn't say title or bust but they should be trying to put the best team out there and they never have. Can't blame Hayward for leaving. Won't blame Rudy for leaving or Mitchell either

[QUOTE]The Jazz's two moves in the off-season were to draft Grayson Allen and to waive Jonas Jerebko and replace him with Georges Niang--basically changing only the Jazz's last two roster spots, which should have little impact on the team.
I think it is okay to have some patience with the Jazz this season. Even though the roster has continuity this season, there has been a major change in NBA defensive rules

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2018/11/23/18108754/it-appears-that-the-jazz-missed-out-on-a-rare-opportunity-to-improve


However, the Jazz did not go after Bjelica when free agency started. I reasoned that it was because the Jazz already had Jonas Jerebko signed to a one-year, $4 mil. bargain contract, and he seemed to be as good or better as Bjelica, who would probably cost more to sign in free agency. However, the Jazz then unexpectedly waived Jonas Jerebko, and replaced him with D-League-player, (gorgeous) Georges Niang, for a contract in the amount of $1,512,601.00--reportedly, because the Jazz did not expect to be able to play Jerebko enough minutes to keep him happy during the 2018-2019 season.


Jerebko would have been fine but he didn't play so it made sense to let him go. Niang was a good move. Keeping Favors, Exum, Neto, and Thabo made little sense. Not to mention Burks and Rubio


With a larger role and more minutes than he had in Minnesota, Bjelica is currently one of the top 3-point shooters in the league (shooting almost 4 3-point shots per game at a 51.6% efficency). He has good size for his position, and this season has also shown improved rebounding, play making and defensive skills. Although George Niang is also a very good shooter, he is undersized as a stretch-4 PF, and thus, has been best suited for only spot NBA minutes due to his lack of size, length and athleticism, which has resulted in some defensive deficiencies against larger, more athletic players.


Niang should be playing. Certainly should be dressing


The Jazz most likely could have had both players--Bjelica and Niang--on the team, and still stayed under the NBA salary cap. The Jazz most likely could have re-signed Georges Niang to a two-way contract, which would have allowed him to play a similar amount of minutes in a similar amount of games to what he will probably play for the Jazz this season as a regular roster player. Even after the Jazz signed Niang, they could have probably waived him and re-signed him to 2-way contract (if that is allowed under NBA rules--I'm not sure if it is), and signed Bjelica to a contract (for a portion of the mid-level exception) similar to that which he signed with Sacramento--and still been under the luxury tax cap of $123,733,000.00--wherein, even with Niang's contract, the Jazz's total 2018-2019 salary is at $117,052,671.00 (accordingly to ********* NBA salaries website)--which is still $6,680,329.00 under the luxury tax cap. In hindsight, the Jazz had two opportunities to sign Bjelica, but passed on both chances.


Niang was first team all GLeague. He's proven himself there unlike Allen and Exum


Who are some young stretch-4 PFs who may be available in a trade, in free agency, or in the draft, in the near future, who you think the Jazz should attempt to obtain?


Harris. Mirotic. Will they still want to play for a crappy team?

[QUOTE]Labissiere has suddenly fallen out of the regular rotation in Sacramento, playing behind Nemanja Bjelica, Marvin Bagley III and Harry Giles (who are also very talented players). As such, he may be obtainable in a trade. If not, he will become a restricted free agent in the summer of 2020, and may not demand a very high dollar contract, if his playing time continues to be limited by Sacramento for the next two years.

Pascal Siakam has really blossomed in his 3rd season with Toronto. His 3-point shooting isn

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/26/utah-jazz-stephaun-branch-defensive-stud/

[QUOTE]One player that

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Eric Woodyard: Donovan Mitchell is available tomorrow at Brooklyn.

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/27/utah-jazz-quarter-grades-ricky-rubio-struggle/

[QUOTE]Entering the 2018-19 season, there was a lot of hope (and hype) about what the Utah Jazz could get out of their point guard position. And, really, it

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[QUOTE]Gina Mizell: So, for now, the #Suns

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Tony Jones: Royce O

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043869/rock-on-donovan-mitchell-channels-a-jazz-icon.html
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Donovan Mitchell made news for the wrong reasons on Nov. 16, when he launched 35 shots, but had no assists. He took as many shots as the rest of the Jazz starters combined.

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900044106/road-sweet-road-jazz-leave-worries-at-home-embark-on-3-game-trip.html

[QUOTE]Playing in Brooklyn, Charlotte and Miami

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043956/morning-links-does-the-utah-jazzs-season-already-need-a-rewrite.html


Analysts and pundits are scrounging for answers about the slow start and there are numerous theories, some of which hold water. Sure, the Jazz are losing games because they are playing worse defense, or are poor in getting back in transition, or are sloppy with the ball or lack three point shooting. The Jazz are only middle of the road in overall three point attempts, but are sixth best at getting wide open three point looks. However, they are second to last in three point percentage. The mind boggling part of this is that the Jazz were 12th in the league in three point percentage last season with nearly the exact same team!


But Ingles was the only good shooter playing all the time. More shots by those same guys. Not good

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http://saltcityhoops.com/one-theory-on-utahs-struggles-not-enough-fun/

[QUOTE]They have no chip on their shoulder, nothing to prove, and they aren

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/28/curse-four-ridiculous-explanations-utah-jazzs-slow-start/

the curse of Lindsey/Snyder/Rubio/Exum and Favors

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https://thejnotes.com/2018/11/28/utah-jazz-quarter-1-grades-ingles-oneale/2/

O'Neale worse than Ricky and Exum? :roll:

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Joe Vardon: Clarifying an earlier tweet: The trade call has not happened between the Cavs and Jazz. Korver would have played tonight had the trade not been agreed upon. Leaking or no leaking was not a factor

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Dennis Lindsey told me yesterday:

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Tony Jones: One other note on Korver

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Albert Nahmad: Cavaliers will trade Kyle Korver to the Jazz in exchange for Alec Burks and second-round picks in 2020 and 2021 (via Wizards), per @Adrian Wojnarowski. Jazz will create a $4.0M trade exception in the deal.

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Joe Vardon: Korver learned of the trade at the arena. He was on the bus to OKC for tonight

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The Kyle Korver contract has a $7.56M cap hit this season and $7.5M for 2019-20. The salary for next season has $3.44M guaranteed with the full amount becoming protected if not waived by July 7. Alec Burks is in the last year of his contract with a salary of $11..53M. The guard also has $1M of unlikely bonuses in his contract.

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[QUOTE]Chris Fedor: Sources: The picks the #Cavs are receiving along with Alec Burks from Utah are Utah