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bokes15 08-18-2010 01:46 PM

Introducing: Ed Davis
 


Interview after he was drafted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sYKz...eature=related

Raptors 2010-11 Summer League Mix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2F4f...eature=related

Draft Express Profile:

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Looking at his physical profile, Davis continues to sport an outstanding frame that is still at least 2-3 years away from fully filling out. His wingspan is outstanding on top of that, and allows him to play much bigger than his size.

He displays a strange blend of athleticism, on one hand running the floor extremely well and being fairly explosive around the rim, but on the other lacking a significant amount of fluidity and reactivity, being somewhat upright and clearly on the mechanical side. From time to time youíll see him make some extremely impressive plays, but for the most part itís difficult to describe him as being a great athlete at this point in time, at least in terms of his ability to actually utilize his athleticism.

Offensively, Davis remains extremely raw, being mostly limited to finishing plays in the immediate area around the basket and having a difficult time creating his own shot. His lack of strength makes it tough for him to establish position deep in the post and finish through contact in traffic, something that forces him to settle for difficult shots outside of his comfort zone. His footwork is raw and he avoids his right hand like the plague (heís left-handed), not looking all that impressive when forced to improvise on the fly, and having a very difficult time against more physical defenders.

Youíd like to see him develop somewhat of a mean streak to compensate for his average skill-level, as it would make it much easier for him to get on the floor in the NBA early on in his career. Thatís not really the type of player he is, though.

On the flip side, Davisí length makes him a terrific target for his (very streaky) guards to lob the ball into the paint to, and he finishes well around the basket for that same reason, getting amazing extension on his jump-hook shot, being able to elevate from long vantage points, and showing excellent touch around the rim. He draws fouls at a good rate and converts on a solid 66% of his free throws.

Facing the basket, Davis has a long ways to go, as his ball-handling skills are close to non-existent and he lacks significant range on his jump-shot. Heís taken only four jumpers all season long according to Synergy Sports Technology, and you can tell why for the most part when looking at the ones he did attempt.

Davis must continue to work on honing his perimeter game and become at least a respectable mid-range shooter to reach his full potential down the road, as heís probably not going to make a living as a banger early on in his career. At the moment heís obviously more of a center than a power forward on the offensive end of the floor, which made him a less than ideal front-court pairing at North Carolina with the similarly interior oriented Deon Thompson.

Defensively and as a rebounder is where Davis shows the most potential, thanks to his rare combination of fundamentals and physical tools. He ranks as one of the best shot-blockers in college basketball, being a major presence in the paint with his terrific length and timing, and should be able to make big strides as a post-defender and rim-protector as he continues to add strength to his frame. His wingspan allows him to go well outside of his area for rebounds as well, again being very productive in this area on both ends of the floor with his 12.4 rebounds per-40 minutes pace adjusted.

On the downside, Davis tends to get pushed around by older and stronger players, giving up deep position in the paint at times in the process. His perimeter defense is just average, as heís mobile enough to get out and hedge screens defending the pick and roll, but is a little too upright in his stance to stay in front of big men laterally who can attack him off the dribble. Once again, the impression you get from watching him play is that he may be better suited (at least initially) for the center position rather than the power forward spot you often see him projected at.

While many would contend that Davis is being overrated if considered a high-lottery pick like most NBA draft services have ranked him all season long, counter to that argument is that there just arenít many big men available (either in free agency or the draft) with his physical tools, intangibles and potential.

I'm not expecting Davis to be something special right away, but you never know what he could develop into down the line. I'm excited for the upcoming season, as we finally have some future prospects that we can build upon.

kmart 08-18-2010 02:28 PM

Re: Introducing: Ed Davis
 
Really like the fact that BC is trying to build a team through youth now. The losses are going to be a pain but eventually they will get better. BC traded Turk and is looking to get rid of Calderon. Their aren't many vets on this team and I'm starting to like it.

bokes15 08-18-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kmart
Really like the fact that BC is trying to build a team through youth now. The losses are going to be a pain but eventually they will get better. BC traded Turk and is looking to get rid of Calderon. Their aren't many vets on this team and I'm starting to like it.

Yeah, I mean it literally took Bosh leaving for him to start making some smart decisions, but I'm glad it forced his hands.. And now our future definitely has more promise than it did over the past 3 years.

Toni 08-18-2010 03:35 PM

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We added two new young pieces in Davis and Kleiza. It's going to take Davis 4-5 years before he starts contributing anything substantial but Kleiza I believe was the underrated acquisition.

He was the main offensive weapon for Olympiacos, Euro league leading scorer, tough, defensive minded SF that can rebound. He's only 24 years old and has all the tools to be a very good player in this league if he gets consistent minutes. Per 48 minutes he nearly matched the stats of Carmelo in Denver two years ago, which is extremely impressive.

bada bing 08-18-2010 03:36 PM

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so what was the reason for ed davis slipping in the draft? wasn't he projected to go much earlier?

Toni 08-18-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bada bing
so what was the reason for ed davis slipping in the draft? wasn't he projected to go much earlier?


Had a wrist injury that scared a lot of GMs off. Because of that injury he missed the second half of the college season. He was expected to go in the 5-8 range.

kmart 08-18-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Toni
We added two new young pieces in Davis and Kleiza. It's going to take Davis 4-5 years before he starts contributing anything substantial but Kleiza I believe was the underrated acquisition.

He was the main offensive weapon for Olympiacos, Euro league leading scorer, tough, defensive minded SF that can rebound. He's only 24 years old and has all the tools to be a very good player in this league if he gets consistent minutes. Per 48 minutes he nearly matched the stats of Carmelo in Denver two years ago, which is extremely impressive.


Agreed, even though we may have lost Bosh's 24 points and 11 rebounds I still think we will have a good offense and a better defense with the acquisitions that BC has made this offseason. Getting rid of Turk and potentially Jose will make this team so much better defensively.

bada bing 08-18-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kmart
Agreed, even though we may have lost Bosh's 24 points and 11 rebounds I still think we will have a good offense and a better defense with the acquisitions that BC has made this offseason. Getting rid of Turk and potentially Jose will make this team so much better defensively.


as much as i hated losing bosh this offseason, i kinda agree with your post. I think we will be a hardworking team that plays with passion because of all the young and looking for an opportunity type of players that BC added. We do not have a better team but we definitely have a hardworking no nonsense team this coming season. which is kinda a better situation.

FCardelle 08-18-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bada bing
so what was the reason for ed davis slipping in the draft? wasn't he projected to go much earlier?

According to that report, Ed Davis is a very long shot. He is an undersized center that still has to develop all his skills to play PF.
In the best case scenario he will be a complement to Bargnani with his weak-side defense, get stronger to be a good rebounder and develops some back-to-the-basket movements. In the worst case scenario he can easily be a bust.

bokes15 08-18-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FCardelle
According to that report, Ed Davis is a very long shot. He is an undersized center that still has to develop all his skills to play PF.
In the best case scenario he will be a complement to Bargnani with his weak-side defense, get stronger to be a good rebounder and develops some back-to-the-basket movements. In the worst case scenario he can easily be a bust.

Either way it was a low risk move IMO. He was a clear top 5 pick prior to his injury and we got him at 13 which is pretty much a crapshoot draft spot anyways, especially if you look at the past 10 #13 picks.

2009 - Tyler Hansborough
2008 - Brandon Rush
2007 - Julian Wright
2006 - Thabo Sefolosha
2005 - Sean May
2004 - Sebastian Telfair
2003 - Marcus Banks
2002 - Marcus Haislip
2001 - Richard Jefferson
2000 - Courtney Alexander

edit: and by the way, that's what I love about draft express. They don't sugar coat anything and their evaluations are extremely objective.

bballnoob 08-18-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bokes15
Either way it was a low risk move IMO. He was a clear top 5 pick prior to his injury and we got him at 13 which is pretty much a crapshoot draft spot anyways, especially if you look at the past 10 #13 picks.

2009 - Tyler Hansborough
2008 - Brandon Rush
2007 - Julian Wright
2006 - Thabo Sefolosha
2005 - Sean May
2004 - Sebastian Telfair
2003 - Marcus Banks
2002 - Marcus Haislip
2001 - Richard Jefferson
2000 - Courtney Alexander

edit: and by the way, that's what I love about draft express. They don't sugar coat anything and their evaluations are extremely objective.


Draftexpress is awesome. Just look back on some Raptor's prospects and they were spot on about things that we noticed on a day by day basis. Joey Graham's robotic play, Bargnani's rebounding, etc.

Grey Dawn 08-18-2010 08:23 PM

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Lol, yeah his rookie photo shoot pic there.

Yeah I agree with what OP says on him, not immediate threat but might be decent in a couple of years, and at #13 picking him was made easy by the way those drafting 1-12 chose, he dropped off the map because he wasn't playing cuz of his injury.

bokes15 08-18-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bballnoob
Draftexpress is awesome. Just look back on some Raptor's prospects and they were spot on about things that we noticed on a day by day basis. Joey Graham's robotic play, Bargnani's rebounding, etc.

Exactly. Sometimes you see these Raptor player evaluations like from lets say John Hollinger for example and you wonder if these people have actually watched them play or if they just saw a game or two and looked at a stat sheet.

Himan12 08-20-2010 02:43 PM

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I love this pick, he seems like the perfect front court mate for bargs.
Its nice to have a big that has to work on his offense game rather than his defense and rebounding.

I just want a defensive anchor (possible DPOY) and this guy can deliver that.

All his weaknesses can be worked on, guess it all depends on his attitude and work ethic.

So who is he most often compared to? Marcus Camby is the only guy I can think of right now.

Bcogswell 08-22-2010 11:39 AM

Re: Introducing: Ed Davis
 
Not expecting a lot from him this season, just hoping to see some signs of improvement over the course of the year. He will become a great player in 2-3 years.


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