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bokes15 02-14-2011 05:12 PM

Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
Lost in the shuffle of this god aweful season, Ed Davis has been stepping it up lately at least defensively. He's averaging 8 rebounds/game for the month of January and has generally been a bright spot for us in addition to Demar putting up nearly 19/game in both January and February. What do you think is his (Davis's) ceiling and what kind of player would you compare him to?

bballnoob 02-14-2011 05:24 PM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bokes15
Lost in the shuffle of this god aweful season, Ed Davis has been stepping it up lately at least defensively. He's averaging 8 rebounds/game for the month of January and has generally been a bright spot for us in addition to Demar putting up nearly 19/game in both January and February. What do you think is his (Davis's) ceiling and what kind of player would you compare him to?


Love his motor (high activity level is a really important trait in a big for me personally). His finishing needs work but that will come when he develops his body. I hate that hitch in his shot (near the apex) and obviously his FT's have suffered. Most of all though (which was apparent from the moment he stepped on the floor) he has great awareness and defensive instincts. He's rarely out of place and I don't have the stat on me but his foul rate is pretty low which is really good for a shot blocking rookie.

His ceiling IMO is an Okafor type player at power foward. I'd be ecstatic if he became a double-double guy.

Chamberlain 02-14-2011 05:39 PM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
Most of you probably know I was 100% against drafting Davis, but I also said that I really hoped that he would prove me wrong.

He has, so far.

I like the fact that he looks better in just about every game. His energy and effort is what I like most. It's refreshing to see, especially given some of the players we've had on recent teams and even this current team.

I'd be very content with Ed Davis' career if he could average 13-15ppg, and 8-10rpg on a consistent basis. The effort and natural ability he has on defense is enough to make up for what he may lack on the offensive end, and as he gets older/bigger/stronger, he'll only get better.

So what do I see his ceiling as? I've heard this comparison about a player before, it may have even been about Davis, but it was a PJ Brown type player with a bit more offense. If we could get that out of Ed, I'd be very happy.

BRabbiT 02-14-2011 08:53 PM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
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Originally Posted by Chamberlain
So what do I see his ceiling as? I've heard this comparison about a player before, it may have even been about Davis, but it was a PJ Brown type player with a bit more offense. If we could get that out of Ed, I'd be very happy.





that'd be great.

Dr.Funk 02-14-2011 09:03 PM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
He's starting to remind me of Antonio Davis.

Qwyjibo 02-14-2011 09:04 PM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
I loved the pick because he basically fell right into the Raptors lap. They probably weren't expecting him to be around at that point. No brainer pick but with the Raptors management, sometimes you can make assumptions like that.

It's a start to getting some more defense and rebounding in the frontcourt. They just need to address the big hole at C.

SESSEL15 02-14-2011 10:00 PM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
Loving his game. If I recall correctly he missed some time during his college year and he missed alot of time at the beginning of the season. So he's still getting into the grove of things. His hustle is admirable. Should be a very servicable starter in the future. Patience is key.

Chamberlain 02-14-2011 10:10 PM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
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Originally Posted by SESSEL15
Loving his game. If I recall correctly he missed some time during his college year and he missed alot of time at the beginning of the season. So he's still getting into the grove of things. His hustle is admirable. Should be a very servicable starter in the future. Patience is key.


I think it was a hand issue in college, maybe a broken thumb or something. I can't really recall.

Pistol Pete 02-14-2011 10:32 PM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
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Originally Posted by Chamberlain
I think it was a hand issue in college, maybe a broken thumb or something. I can't really recall.


He broke his wrist and sat out the season, that's why he was kind of a wildcard entering the draft, because prior to that, he was thought to be a lock top 3-5 pick if he left as a freshmen. He came back, snapped the wrist, sat out, and slid a bit down the draft board.

I'm really pleased with his play, I mean, he's young, athletic, plays a high energy game and has a strong defensive mindset. He's everything we need in this team. We look to have two legitimate pieces in DeMar DeRozan and Ed Davis, if we could add a piece like Kyrie Irving, our core starts looking very solid. We suck for another year, add a 3 (probably since doubt they'd draft a 5 with Bargnani here), and suddenly we're kind of a team on the rise...

...assuming Colangelo doesn't get impatient and **** it up in the meantime.

SESSEL15 02-14-2011 10:39 PM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete
We look to have two legitimate pieces in DeMar DeRozan and Ed Davis, if we could add a piece like Kyrie Irving, our core starts looking very solid. We suck for another year, add a 3 (probably since doubt they'd draft a 5 with Bargnani here), and suddenly we're kind of a team on the rise...

...assuming Colangelo doesn't get impatient and **** it up in the meantime.


I agree. We really need a stud in the draft this year. DeMar and Ed and progressing well. If we could just get that one guy.

Toni 02-14-2011 11:47 PM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistol Pete
He broke his wrist and sat out the season, that's why he was kind of a wildcard entering the draft, because prior to that, he was thought to be a lock top 3-5 pick if he left as a freshmen. He came back, snapped the wrist, sat out, and slid a bit down the draft board.

I'm really pleased with his play, I mean, he's young, athletic, plays a high energy game and has a strong defensive mindset. He's everything we need in this team. We look to have two legitimate pieces in DeMar DeRozan and Ed Davis, if we could add a piece like Kyrie Irving, our core starts looking very solid. We suck for another year, add a 3 (probably since doubt they'd draft a 5 with Bargnani here), and suddenly we're kind of a team on the rise...

...assuming Colangelo doesn't get impatient and **** it up in the meantime.


I like the sounds of that Pistol

:banana:

bokes15 02-15-2011 12:10 AM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
I quite honestly feel like this team would look totally different with a legit 5. Every team needs a high energy guy like Ed Davis has shown himself to be so far. And alongside a legit 5, it could be a pretty good combination. Or perhaps even having him coming off the bench if we got more depth at any time.

stalf 02-15-2011 01:41 AM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
for a c, ideally a bynum like player, back to basket 20/10 with a little more energy on both ends of the floor. then ship bargs/calderon back. somehow lure dwill in 2 years :P

bluerap 02-15-2011 07:49 AM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
yeah all we need is an all-star centre and an all-star pg.
that's easy enough.:lol

seriously though, davis has been impressive, but he is not really a good long-term fit with Bargs.

We need one of them to be paired with a legit all-star that has an all-around game.

either we have to pair davis with a 20/10 c, or pair bargs with a 20/12 pf.

Harrison_Barnes 02-15-2011 08:14 AM

Re: Let's talk about Ed Davis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluerap
yeah all we need is an all-star centre and an all-star pg.
that's easy enough.:lol

seriously though, davis has been impressive, but he is not really a good long-term fit with Bargs.

We need one of them to be paired with a legit all-star that has an all-around game.

either we have to pair davis with a 20/10 c, or pair bargs with a 20/12 pf.


I'd take this option. :D


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