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Scholar 06-23-2011 03:46 PM

Knowing what we know now from the '96 draft...
 
Who would you have chosen #1 overall if you were the GM?

Loneshot 06-23-2011 03:53 PM

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I'd still take A.I. I don't feel like Nash or Kobe could have done what he did with the same teammates.

asdf1990 06-23-2011 03:54 PM

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swanson333 06-23-2011 04:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loneshot
I'd still take A.I. I don't feel like Nash or Kobe could have done what he did with the same teammates.


Tell me your kidding?? I don't even like kobe but to say you would still draft A.I. ahead of him is rediculous! Every GM in the league would take Kobe #1.

Rysio 06-23-2011 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swanson333
Tell me your kidding?? I don't even like kobe but to say you would still draft A.I. ahead of him is rediculous! Every GM in the league would take Kobe #1.

great first post. :applause:

Anti Hero 06-23-2011 04:17 PM

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It would be hard to guess at the time that Kobe would be the second coming but if I did know then it would easily be him.

BlackJoker23 06-23-2011 04:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rysio
great first post. :applause:

holy shit.first phucking post in 5 years :roll:

Joey Zaza 06-23-2011 04:33 PM

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If we re-draft it today, knowing what I know (assuming Kobe will play for my team and not whine his way to LA, right?)

Allen Iverson
Ray Allen
Antoine Walker
Marcus Camby
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Stephon Marbury
Kobe Bryant
Steve Nash
Jermaine O'Neal
Kerry Kittles
Peja Stojaković
Erick Dampier
D.fisher
Tony Delk

Here's the thing, my job as a GM, especially on a bad team (which gets a good pick) is on the line. I want the guys who can do it right away and fit perfectly into whatever else I have in mind.

The guys who took 3ish years to develop are of no value to me. They'll get some other GM a raise, and a title, not me...Ill be sitting around my house saying "I knew that guy would be good."

So - AI, Ray, Walker are my first 3.

Then I went with size because size does not come cheap. Z was specifically good early, the foot injuries will get me fired in 2 yrs, though.

Steph was good quickly, but the worst attitutde in the draft. He'll get me fired.

Then came the projects, Kobe, Nash, J.O'n. I'm fired by the time they get good, but at least its on my resume.

Then role players. No one cares. Hopefull by that time in the draft my team is pretty good anyway and these guys make their small contributions and I'm a genius.

jjayfive 06-23-2011 04:52 PM

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knowing what I know now... kobe, nash, ai, ray

ray allen was the safest pick out of the four.. nash was a project since he came out of santa clara.. AI was gonna sell tickets and he was the best player in college.. kobe was a project.. but west drafted him even though they had eddie jones...

i would draft on potential and talent.. not needs..

TheMarkMadsen 06-23-2011 04:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Zaza
If we re-draft it today, knowing what I know (assuming Kobe will play for my team and not whine his way to LA, right?)

Allen Iverson
Ray Allen
Antoine Walker
Marcus Camby
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Stephon Marbury
Kobe Bryant
Steve Nash
Jermaine O'Neal
Kerry Kittles
Peja Stojaković
Erick Dampier
D.fisher
Tony Delk

Here's the thing, my job as a GM, especially on a bad team (which gets a good pick) is on the line. I want the guys who can do it right away and fit perfectly into whatever else I have in mind.

The guys who took 3ish years to develop are of no value to me. They'll get some other GM a raise, and a title, not me...Ill be sitting around my house saying "I knew that guy would be good."

So - AI, Ray, Walker are my first 3.

Then I went with size because size does not come cheap. Z was specifically good early, the foot injuries will get me fired in 2 yrs, though.

Steph was good quickly, but the worst attitutde in the draft. He'll get me fired.

Then came the projects, Kobe, Nash, J.O'n. I'm fired by the time they get good, but at least its on my resume.

Then role players. No one cares. Hopefull by that time in the draft my team is pretty good anyway and these guys make their small contributions and I'm a genius.


Knowing what you know now you'd want to be known as the guy who drafted the same man who went on web cam and ate vasoline (which you knew he would) over Kobe Bryant? Flawless Logic

Samurai Swoosh 06-23-2011 05:00 PM

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I would've loved to have seen Kobe's career be played out in Philly. His hometown, and where his dad played. Take Iverson's scoring years, and add 3 - 5 ppg onto each average and we'd have Kobe. His career averages would've been a lot higher. And we would've saw possibly more 81 point type games.

GOBB 06-23-2011 05:14 PM

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I'm still taking Allen Iverson. Call it bias. Call it stupid. Feel free to say whatever your heat desires. Instant impact player not only for the franchise but the NBA. He introduced a new culture to the game. Sure people rocked braids before AI. He wasnt the first human to. But to see the transformation with players in how they appeared from hair, tatts you name it? Bringing that hip hop prescence as well? Not that that has sh!t to do with a team if you're the GM. It doesnt, just useless info i'm giving. But call it bias, fanboy.

AI beasted in college and was exciting as hell to watch.

Kobe is great, but knowing what I know? He was in a perfect situation right out the gate. I'd like to see how his career unfolds or peoples replies if you didnt take Kobe #1 had he not played in L.A with Shaq.

Give me AI, did I say that enough? :lol

Someone should create a thread of merged drafts. Say 1996 and 2003. How would a first round go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai Swoosh
I would've loved to have seen Kobe's career be played out in Philly. Living in Lower Merion playing summers in Philly, and where his dad played. Take Iverson's scoring years, and add 3 - 5 ppg onto each average and we'd have Kobe. His career averages would've been a lot higher. And we would've saw possibly more 81 point type games.


Fixed

bluechox2 06-23-2011 05:29 PM

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knowing what i know based on talent and longevity:

Kobe Bryant
Allen Iverson
Ray Allen
Steve Nash
Antoine Walker
Marcus Camby
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Stephon Marbury
Jermaine O'Neal
Peja Stojaković
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Kerry Kittles
Erick Dampier
D.fisher
Tony Delk

R.I.P. 06-23-2011 05:36 PM

Re: Knowing what we know now from the '96 draft...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluechox2
knowing what i know based on talent and longevity:

Kobe Bryant
Allen Iverson
Ray Allen
Steve Nash
Antoine Walker
Marcus Camby
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Stephon Marbury
Jermaine O'Neal
Peja Stojaković
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Kerry Kittles
Erick Dampier
D.fisher
Tony Delk


Peja goes at #5. 10 years of excellent shooting with at least 16 PPG, 5 RPG, 2 APG for a small forward.

AMISTILLILL 06-23-2011 05:38 PM

Re: Knowing what we know now from the '96 draft...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swanson333
Tell me your kidding?? I don't even like kobe but to say you would still draft A.I. ahead of him is rediculous! Every GM in the league would take Kobe #1.


They should build monuments in honor of this first post. I applaud you, kind sir.


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