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pauk 01-29-2012 09:23 AM

Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
....and nobody else?

I just dont understand why only Lebron gets this "not clutch when it is most important in playoffs"... for example Kobe got swept by that same team choking to almost death.... early in the playoffs for gods sake...... nobody calls out Kobes clutch ability for that... why?

Wade didnt do so well in the clutch either in the Finals....

Durant and Carmelo? Dont even get me started........

No, it works only when it happens to Lebron.......

It seems like EVERYBODY can get away with a missed shot attempt in the clutch......... but Lebron? HELL NO......... He can make 1000 clutch shots and miss 1 and get called for "NOT CLUTCH" because he missed it.....

Lebron has been more clutch than anybody in the season and playoffs amongst active players today.... (there is proof to that if u so wish) but when he fails its the freakin end of the world..... overreactions all over the place...

blablabla 01-29-2012 09:26 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
because you guys claim lebron is a million times better than kobe wade melo durant so he has to perform better
just because kobe doesn't hit the gw lebron doesn't have a free pass to miss a gw
if he wants to be better he has to perform better
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Eric Cartman 01-29-2012 09:29 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
Well because Wade was playing AMAZING in the finals. If Lebron played like a mediocre second option they would've won, instead he put up a no show.

Lakers vs Dallas series you had Lamar & Gasol playing like absolute garbage (similar to Lebron) so Kobe (playing the Wade role) couldn't do enough to beat them. One man can't do it all.

32Dayz 01-29-2012 09:29 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blablabla
because you guys claim lebron is a million times better than kobe wade melo durant so he has to perform better
just because kobe doesn't hit the gw lebron doesn't have a free pass to miss a gw
if he wants to be better he has to perform better
end


Lebron has outperformed Kobe in the playoffs though.

The only thing Kobe holds over Lebron is that he has 2-3 good Finals performances.

He only has 1 without Prime Shaq though... who is a GOAT Finals performer and makes life much easier on Wing Players obviously.

Thats why I feel 2 very good Finals performances by Lebron will already put him in discussion for Top 10.

Asukal 01-29-2012 09:33 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
Because Lebron did not live up to the hype, at least in the clutch. :banana:

NastyCrossover1 01-29-2012 09:38 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
Kobe getting swept is insignificant, Kobe is a proven winner, he's in the club and seated in the front.

LeBron gets so much criticism when he fails simply because of respect.
He's the undisputed best in the game so when he doesn't come up big it's kind of a shock.

returnofthemack 01-29-2012 09:44 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
bc oall the lebron is the god of basketball and many claim that he is the best in the game. but the fact is he has won zero rings. he starts winning rings and this kind of stuff vanishes. i dont think anyone is sitting here saying that melo is clutch and lebron isnt. as far as im concerned they are both losers. the game is about winning. lebron starts winning rings then everyone who loves lebron is can swing off his nuts and scream as loud as they want about how great he is. untill then he has ALOT to prove

Scholar 01-29-2012 09:50 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
Maybe because LeBron choked game-after-game during the 2010-2011 season, including throughout the majority of the Playoffs & the entirety of the NBA Finals.
Then to make matters worse, LBJ homers wouldn't admit there's a problem for LeBron in the clutch. That's why he gets criticized harshly on this site.

Yung D-Will 01-29-2012 09:53 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
I hold Lebron to high standards. So I expect better from him in certain situations

LEFT4DEAD 01-29-2012 09:53 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
Because, when Lebron wins his first ring and finals MVP he will be top 10 all time. They want to provide as many things (and those things are counting only for lebron as failures, nobody more) with which they will attack tomorrow and say he is not top 10 or something like that. Just my guess.

FKAri 01-29-2012 09:55 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scholar
Maybe because LeBron choked game-after-game during the 2010-2011 season, including throughout the majority of the Playoffs & the entirety of the NBA Finals.
Then to make matters worse, LBJ homers wouldn't admit there's a problem for LeBron in the clutch. That's why he gets criticized harshly on this site.


:wtf:

pmj 01-29-2012 10:29 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
Lebron is simply held to a higher standard than anyone b/c of talent. It's the "Chosen 1" rep. Even after he wins one, people will want more.

With other stars, what they do adds to their accomplishments. No one though Kobe would be top 10 coming into the league, so each ring or great season, he goes up the list. With Lebron, everyone thought he would be GOAT-level, so every time he doesn't win a ring, or has a bad game, he goes down the list (from where everyone had penciled him in).

The other thing is you get cut a lot of slack once you have a ring. Wade failed to get out of the first round after his ring. He failed in the clutch in the last Finals too, but people claim it's ok b/c he had great stats. How many series has Lebron had monster stats and the team still lost but that adds to his failures?

Yung D-Will 01-29-2012 10:37 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
I consider him the best player in the leauge. So being better than everyone else means I'm gonna hold you to higher standards than everyone else.

roffie 01-29-2012 10:41 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
because lebron is claimed as one of the best players to join the league this decade.. with great expectations comes with great responabilities..

rodman91 01-29-2012 10:42 AM

Re: Why does only Lebrons clutch failures reach criticism of epic proportions?
 
1.Lebron is the most hyped player since Kobe.
2.Lebron has one of the greatest stats which makes him comparable to Jordan.
3.Jordan was definition of winning,leadership,taking responsibility and clutch plays.
4.All these hype makes people want him to do same things Jordan did in clutch.
5.When he can't, he gets biggest criticism.


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