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bwink23 02-04-2012 06:34 PM

Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
PLAYOFFS

28.2ppg on 46.3%FG at 21.7 FG's per game.
33.6% 3FG at 4.1 attempts.
80.8%FT at 8.3 FT's per game.

FINALS

24.7ppg on 41.2%FG at 21.3 FG's per game.
31.4% 3FG at 4.0 attempts.
84.8%FT at 6.9 FT's per game.



THOUGHTS??

cotdt 02-04-2012 06:38 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
he's just so tired by the finals after having to carry his team to that stage.

PTB Fan 02-04-2012 06:41 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
Defenses play him better overall in that stage.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy 02-04-2012 06:43 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
Kobe is a good playoff performer, but terrible in the Finals (by his standards). Either the guy isn't all that he is cracked up to be, or he's really "chasing it" - and by that, I mean the Finals MVP. Could be both, not really sure.

rule1223 02-04-2012 06:44 PM

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damn those stats

StateOfMind12 02-04-2012 06:45 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
It doesn't help that he played against two all-time great defenses in the 2004 and 2008 NBA Finals.


bwink, you should post Kobe's finals stats in each of his Finals opposed to doing a total average.

PTB Fan 02-04-2012 06:47 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StateOfMind12
It doesn't help that he played against two all-time great defenses in the 2004 and 2008 NBA Finals.


bwink, you should post Kobe's finals stats in each of his Finals opposed to doing a total average.


OP should post LeBron finals stats :lol

tpols 02-04-2012 06:47 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
His first three Finals weren't that competitive. LA played teams they were clearly better than and demolished them. Plus they were Shaq's first title shots so he got way more touches in the Finals.

And then in the last three Finals Kobe played top defenses in the league in each matchup. Number 1 ranked Orlando in 09 and an all time great defensive team in Boston in the other two years.

Every team Kobe played in the Finals was a defensive minded team.. 08-10 Celtics, 04 Pistons, 02 Nets, 01 Sixers, 09 Magic.. theyall relied on great D to win. He never got the Mavs in the Finals..

Ronaldinho 02-04-2012 06:49 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cotdt
he's just so tired by the finals after having to carry his team to that stage.

This.Carrying Gasoft, Bynum one leg and Derek stupid Fisher must be pretty hard.

bwink23 02-04-2012 06:49 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StateOfMind12
It doesn't help that he played against two all-time great defenses in the 2004 and 2008 NBA Finals.


bwink, you should post Kobe's finals stats in each of his Finals opposed to doing a total average.



You can go to basketball-reference website and get each individual Finals stat line.

inclinerator 02-04-2012 06:59 PM

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his freethrow percentage is higher

StateOfMind12 02-04-2012 07:00 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
Kobe vs. 2000 Pacers
35.2 mpg, 15.6 ppg, 4.2 apg, 4.6 rpg, 1.0 spg, 1.4 bpg, 1.2 topg, 36.7% fg, 90.9% ft, 20.0% 3p

Kobe vs. 2001 Sixers
46.8 mpg, 24.6 ppg, 5.8 apg, 7.8 rpg, 1.4 spg, 1.4 bpg, 3.6 topg, 41.5% fg, 84.2% ft, 33.3% 3p

Kobe vs. 2002 Nets
43.8 mpg, 26.8 ppg, 5.3 apg, 5.8 rpg, 1.5 spg, 0.8 bpg, 3.75 topg, 51.4% fg, 80.6% ft, 54.5% 3p


I was more curious about Kobe's Finals numbers in the first 3-peat with Shaq. I know for the most part what Kobe's numbers were in the Finals against the '04 Pistons, '08 Celtics, and the two other teams he won the title over.

gtfomyface 02-04-2012 07:02 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by inclinerator
his freethrow percentage is higher



:bowdown:

The Choken One 02-04-2012 07:04 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StateOfMind12
Kobe vs. 2000 Pacers
35.2 mpg, 15.6 ppg, 4.2 apg, 4.6 rpg, 1.0 spg, 1.4 bpg, 1.2 topg, 36.7% fg, 90.9% ft, 20.0% 3p

Kobe vs. 2001 Sixers
46.8 mpg, 24.6 ppg, 5.8 apg, 7.8 rpg, 1.4 spg, 1.4 bpg, 3.6 topg, 41.5% fg, 84.2% ft, 33.3% 3p

Kobe vs. 2002 Nets
43.8 mpg, 26.8 ppg, 5.3 apg, 5.8 rpg, 1.5 spg, 0.8 bpg, 3.75 topg, 51.4% fg, 80.6% ft, 54.5% 3p

If those are second option statlines...just wow.

Pursuer 02-04-2012 07:05 PM

Re: Kobe Playoff vs. Finals Scoring During Title Years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpols
His first three Finals weren't that competitive. LA played teams they were clearly better than and demolished them. Plus they were Shaq's first title shots so he got way more touches in the Finals.

And then in the last three Finals Kobe played top defenses in the league in each matchup. Number 1 ranked Orlando in 09 and an all time great defensive team in Boston in the other two years.

Every team Kobe played in the Finals was a defensive minded team.. 08-10 Celtics, 04 Pistons, 02 Nets, 01 Sixers, 09 Magic.. theyall relied on great D to win. He never got the Mavs in the Finals..


Not really 09 Magic. Yeah the defensive rating say otherwise, but honestly, their greatest strength was offense.


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