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The_LA_Blakers 02-08-2012 12:40 PM

List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
Who is the most over and underpaid players in the game?

I think most overpaid:

Rashard Lewis: $21,136,630

&

Antawn Jamison $15,076,715

Underpaid there's a lot, but:

Ryan Anderson: $2,244,601

&

Delonte West: $1,146,337


Both are important parts of their teams, and much worse players are paid a lot more.

What do y'all think?

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-play...position/2011/

Bob Cousy 02-08-2012 12:45 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
the only underpaid players are the ones limited to "max" salary, which are the superstars.

the rest are all overpaid.

The_LA_Blakers 02-08-2012 12:46 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Cousy
the only underpaid players are the ones limited to "max" salary, which are the superstars.

the rest are all overpaid.




In the sense of the everyday man, they're all overpaid. We all know this, but in a basketball sense, there are plenty of people making a lot more or less than they should.

iggy> 02-08-2012 01:23 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
Would u rather be underpaid or overrated.

ralph_i_el 02-08-2012 01:25 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
a lot of the most underpaid players are guys on rookie salaries.

HurricaneKid 02-08-2012 01:28 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
Rose is making less than 7M this year. His extension starts next year.


There are a LOT of guys on their rookie deals making less than they should. For example, Westbrook, Ibaka, and Harden are making <11m as a trio. Jrue Holiday- 1.7M. But Dorrell Wright and West were FAs and only got 3.8M and the league min which seems like a tough break.

Owl 02-08-2012 02:01 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
Within the context of NBA players, some max guys and rookie contracts are the most underpaid due to artificial limits on their potential earnings. Most overpaid would be max guys who aren't really max guys but their team wants to keep them and wouldn't be able to replace them if they left so they go for it. These guys are often already the wrong side of thirty or thereabouts. These contracts look even worse after injuries. Then after that there are the guys who get long term deals above the midlevel who aren't worth it but the midlevel distorts the market, and so small market/bad/unattractive teams who wouldn't get them otherwise pay too much.
A couple of the less methodologically flawed (if now out of date) attempts to look at value relating to advanced metrics
http://www.82games.com/0506/fairsalary.htm
http://www.teamrankings.com/blog/nba...-per-win-share

Arenas is still getting paid so I guess he's worst value, unless someones really hurting their team.
Best value would be the best player, which to me is LeBron. Anderson and Blair are still on rookie contracts (though Blair's as a second rounder isn't on rookie scale but still limited in what could be offered) and due big raises this summer I think. But presently both fit the profile of "bargains" (if that's what you're looking for rather than LeBron, Durant, Dwight etc).
Just re-read your post and remembered you said Delonte not DeJuan. West is paid what he is because of personality issues, and is playing above himself so far this year.

The_LA_Blakers 02-08-2012 02:39 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Owl
Within the context of NBA players, some max guys and rookie contracts are the most underpaid due to artificial limits on their potential earnings. Most overpaid would be max guys who aren't really max guys but their team wants to keep them and wouldn't be able to replace them if they left so they go for it. These guys are often already the wrong side of thirty or thereabouts. These contracts look even worse after injuries. Then after that there are the guys who get long term deals above the midlevel who aren't worth it but the midlevel distorts the market, and so small market/bad/unattractive teams who wouldn't get them otherwise pay too much.
A couple of the less methodologically flawed (if now out of date) attempts to look at value relating to advanced metrics
http://www.82games.com/0506/fairsalary.htm
http://www.teamrankings.com/blog/nba...-per-win-share

Arenas is still getting paid so I guess he's worst value, unless someones really hurting their team.
Best value would be the best player, which to me is LeBron. Anderson and Blair are still on rookie contracts (though Blair's as a second rounder isn't on rookie scale but still limited in what could be offered) and due big raises this summer I think. But presently both fit the profile of "bargains" (if that's what you're looking for rather than LeBron, Durant, Dwight etc).
Just re-read your post and remembered you said Delonte not DeJuan. West is paid what he is because of personality issues, and is playing above himself so far this year.



yeah, West has his problems, but he makes literally 20 times less than Lewis. That's crazy considering their production.


EDIT: Is there a tool for wins share of every player in the NBA?

FireDavidKahn 02-08-2012 02:47 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
You can't say someone is underpaid while they are still on a rookie contract like Love. Wait until he earns a real contract and then we can debate that.

The_LA_Blakers 02-08-2012 02:50 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireDavidKahn
You can't say someone is underpaid while they are still on a rookie contract like Love. Wait until he earns a real contract and then we can debate that.





You do know Love just resigned, don't you?

Sarcastic 02-08-2012 02:52 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
Lebron James is underpaid. He should make $100 million a year with the amount of revenue he generates.

Bob Cousy 02-08-2012 02:58 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Lebron James is underpaid. He should make $100 million a year with the amount of revenue he generates.

its more like 40-50 mil a yr in a open market.

Owl 02-08-2012 02:58 PM

Re: List of every player's salary: most over and under paid?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The_LA_Blakers
yeah, West has his problems, but he makes literally 20 times less than Lewis. That's crazy considering their production.


EDIT: Is there a tool for wins share of every player in the NBA?

If you're refering to one relating to the link above weighing WS against wages, I couldn't find one. If you want one generally then here are the ones from B-Ball reference for last year http://www.basketball-reference.com/...&order_by=w s and this year http://www.basketball-reference.com/...&order_by=w s


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