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knickballer 03-27-2012 10:09 PM

Official 2012 ISH NFL Mock Draft
Only picks here all discussions go in this page(see page for rules)

2009 ISH NFL Draft can be seen here
2010 ISH mock draft can be seen here
2011 ISH mock draft can be seen here

First Round

1. Indianapolis Colts- Leboswky-------------Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. Washington Redskins- King Beasley-----RG3, QB, Baylor
3. Minnesota Vikings- Knickballer----------Matt Kalil, OT, USC
4. Cleveland Browns- RBA ----------------Morris Claiborne, Cornerback, LSU
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- KG=-----------Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
6. St. Louis Rams- GOBB---------------------Justin Blackmon, WR, OKST
7. Jacksonville Jaguars - Takeittohoop-----Quinton Coples, DE, NC
8. Miami Dolphins- Ballinhun------------------Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
9. Carolina Panthers- irondarts---------------Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
10. Buffalo Bills- irondarts----------------------Riley Rieff, OT, Iowa
11. Kansas City Chiefs- takeittohoop--------David DeCastro, OG, Stanford
12. Seattle Seahawks- riddler-----------------Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College
13. Arizona Cardinals- irondarts--------------Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
14. Dallas Cowboys- pt------------------------Fletcher Cox, DT, Miss state
15. Philadelphia Eagles- posterize----------Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
16. New York Jets- niko-------------------------Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
17. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland Raiders)- riddler--------Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
18. San Diego Chargers- takeittohoop-----------Courtney Upshaw, DE/OLB, Alabama
19. Chicago Bears- ballinhun--------------Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
20. Tennessee Titans- irondarts-------------------Janoris Jenkins, CB, Florida
21. Cincinnati Bengals- riddler-------------------------CORDY GLENN, OG, GEORGIA
22. Cleveland Browns (from Atlanta Falcons)- rba--------kendall wright, WR, Baylor
23. Detroit Lions- irondarts----------------------------------Stephen Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
24. Pittsburgh Steelers- jailblazers-------------------------Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama.
25. Denver Broncos- KG-------------------------------------Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
26. Houston Texans- Beasley
27. New England Patriots (from New Orleans Saints)
28. Green Bay Packers- Jazz
29. Baltimore Ravens- kingbeasley
30. San Francisco 49ers- knickballer
31. New England Patriots
32. New York Giants- Niko

Second Round

33. St. Louis Rams
34. Indianapolis Colts
35. Minnesota Vikings
36. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
37. Cleveland Browns
38. Jacksonville Jaguars
39. St. Louis Rams (from Washington Redskins)
40. Carolina Panthers
41. Buffalo Bills
42. Miami Dolphins
43. Seattle Seahawks
44. Kansas City Chiefs
45. Dallas Cowboys
46. Philadelphia Eagles
47. New York Jets
48. New England Patriots (from Oakland Raiders)
49. San Diego Chargers
50. Chicago Bears
51. Philadelphia Eagles (from Arizona Cardinals)
52. Tennessee Titans
53. Cincinnati Bengals
54. Detroit Lions
55. Atlanta Falcons
56. Pittsburgh Steelers
57. Denver Broncos
58. Houston Texans
-New Orleans forfeited pick for bounty scandal
59. Green Bay Packers
60. Baltimore Ravens
61. San Francisco 49ers
62. New England Patriots
63. New York Giants

Each poster has 24 hours to make their pick, if you will be away please PM me a rankings or key place. When posting the pick please add a pick, some states(maybe size, combine, playing stats, etc) and a brief description.

InspiredLebowski 03-28-2012 05:52 PM

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Indy takes Luck

knickballer 03-28-2012 06:02 PM

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With the second pick the Washington Redskins select Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor:

6-2, 220 pounds, 4.41 40
Senior season: 37 passing TD's, 6 INT, 4293 yards, 72.4 completion %, 10 rushing TD's

Redskins gave up alot for this pick and it's no question that the pick will be focused on getting their franchise QB. This draft has two of the best QB's in recent history, in any other draft RG3 may go 1st overall easily. He's a fast and explosive QB who should start right away for the Redskins and address a major need. Redskins also targeted some WR's this past season to give him some help but the pick will be graded five years down the road considering all they gave up for him. If he doesn't pan out this will bring the franchise back for 5 years but the potential on him is amazing.

knickballer 03-28-2012 06:09 PM

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With the third pick the Minnesota Vikings select:
Matt Kalil, OT, USC
6-6, 306, 4.99 40

from draft countdown

Ideal size with long arms, large hands and big frame
Very quick and agile with above average athleticism
Light on feet and is able to slide laterally and mirror
Knee bender w/ good footwork, balance, body control
Terrific grasp of assignments, positioning and angles
Excellent in pass protection and can defend the edge
Displays the ability to recover and adjust on the fly
Can generate sufficient movement as a run blocker
Nice range to work in space and get to second level
Tough, competitive, aggressive and is a true finisher
Great instincts and awareness with top football IQ
Was battle-tested against high-level competition
Outstanding work ethic with a drive to be the best
Mature with fantastic pedigree and NFL bloodlines
Is still developing and offers considerable potential

With the pick the vikings address a major need and pick the best player available. Vikings get their franchise LT and a day one starter who will help protect their young QB who they selected in the first last year. Vikings have some nice young prospects on offense with Ponder, Harvin, Rudolph, Gerhart and of course Adrian Peterson.

RedBlackAttack 03-29-2012 12:22 AM

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With the 4th selection in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select...

Morris Claiborne, Cornerback, LSU

Size: 6'0" 190 pounds
40-yard dash: 4.41
Vertical Jump: 35"
Broad Jump: 9'9"


Strengths: Good size and elite length for the position – Incredibly fluid, can turn and run with the best of them – Accelerates quickly out of his backpedal and up to full speed – Good leaper, times his jumps well – Recovers very quickly, excellent burst to the ball – Phenomenal ball skills, great hands and interception radius – Fantastic in man coverage – Able to get a good jam/re-direct out of press man – Good instincts, able to read a route and bait the quarterback – Decent in the run-game, can shed a block and lay a hit – Four-down player, very adept at running back kicks.

I thought long and hard about this one, but I honestly do believe that he is the best player available on the board and, at the end of the day, the Browns have too many holes not to take the BPA at No. 4.

A major hole is the starting CB spot on the otherside of Joe Haden, one of the best young defensive backs in the league. Last season, it was Sheldon Brown and while he played admirably, it was pretty clear that it was likely his last season as a No. 2 corner.

This move allows us to grow the franchise with two of the best young CBs in the game, move Brown to safety possibly and it further improves a defense that was already Top 10 last year.

Tough choice, but the right one. In the mid-to-late 80s, the Browns became known as 'The Dawgs' because of the barking by our two corners, who also happened to be two of the best in the game... Frank Minnifield and Hanford Dixon. 20 years later, here is 'The Dawgs' redux.

Haden/Claiborne are good enough to make things awfully difficult on a division loaded with quality QBs and WRs. It also gives guys like Jabaal Sheard plenty of time to eat up quarterbacks and improve on his stellar rookie season.

ROCSteady 03-29-2012 12:28 AM

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Don't like the Claiborne pick. Already have a great young CB. CLE needs playmaker (s) in the worst way. Elite ones at that. Whiffing on all the potential QBs this offseason just solidifies why they need as much top end talent to help Colt as possible. Forget all that BPA crap, sometimes NEEDS re so glaring they are blinding.

I know this is just posters playing GM but for the Browns sake, I hope they just ante up and take Blackmon. Don't be scuuuured just cuz Braylon didn't quite work out at number 2.

Speaking of Edwards, does he have a team right now?

RedBlackAttack 03-29-2012 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ROCSteady
Don't like the Claiborne pick. Already have a great young CB. CLE needs playmaker (s) in the worst way. Elite ones at that. Whiffing on all the potential QBs this offseason just solidifies why they need as much top end talent to help Colt as possible. Forget all that BPA crap, sometimes NEEDS re so glaring they are blinding.

I know this is just posters playing GM but for the Browns sake, I hope they just ante up and take Blackmon. Don't be scuuuured just cuz Braylon didn't quite work out at number 2.

Speaking of Edwards, does he have a team right now?

Discussions are supposed to take place in the other thread, I believe. I will give you a full explanation of the pick over there. Trust me, it is something that I've thought long and hard about.

ROCSteady 03-29-2012 12:32 AM

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Sry, my mistake

*runs away from thread scuuuuured*

knickballer 03-29-2012 12:29 PM

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With the fifth pick the Bucs select.....

Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
5-9, 228, 4.50 40

from draft countdown:

Outstanding size and bulk with a stout, sturdy build
Powerful w/ fantastic upper and lower body strength
Super tough, competitive, aggressive, physical runner
Remarkable balance, low center of gravity, nimble feet
Superb vision and natural instincts w/ good patience
Displays an impressive burst and is sneaky explosive
Showcases extra gear to pull away from defenders
Terrific between the tackles and keeps legs moving
Is fast enough to get to outside and turn the corner
Breaks a ton of tackles and is a load to bring down
Protects the football and won't put it on the ground
Soft hands and is a good receiver out of the backfield
Very reliable in pass protection with good awareness
Capable of carrying load yet hasn't been overworked
Great work ethic and is an animal in the weight room
Also exhibited some dynamic ability as a kick returner
Productive and excelled against top-notch competition

Tough pick for the Bucs as they lose out on the elite prospects such as Claiborne and Kalil. Claiborne would have been the best pick here as their secondary can use some help. As for Richardson he's an extremely explosive player and locked in as the best back in the draft by far. Schianno apparently likes the player alot and he would make a deadly combo with Blount. They will have an expolisve backfield that will be dangerous but this probably means that Blount will be on his way out in the near future as both probably consider themselves #1 backs. That offense is suddenly rejuvinated with the signings of Jackson and Nicks.

GOBB 03-29-2012 01:53 PM

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Stl Rams select WR Ok St Justin Blackmon

6'1 207lbs 4.46 40


-Good strength and above-average speed
-Great hands, catches the ball away from his body
-Tough, physical player who isn't afraid to go over the middle and go up for the ball in traffic
-Picks up yards after the catch and after first contact
-Solid ball skills and great body control to adjust to the ball in the air
-Incredibly productive in 2010 with 1,782 yards and 20 touchdowns
-Competitive guy who goes all out every play

NFL comparison Anquan Boldin

Rams go with BPA

takeittothehoop 03-29-2012 03:43 PM

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The Jacksonville Jaguars select Quinton Coples, DE North Carolina

I decided to pick Coples for the Jags because they really need a second DE to go with Jeremy Mincey and although WR is their biggest need, there isn't a prospect at the position that I feel is worthy of selecting at #7. Coples is a great prospect who has the potential to become a dominant DE in the NFL and can improve the Jags defense significantly.

6'5" 281 lbs

Ideal size
Good speed around the edge
Can beat tackles with a speed rush
Quick get off of snap
Fast, strong hands
Repertoire of pass-rushing moves
Power to bull rush
Hip flexibility
Solid knee bend
Holds ground in run defense
Versatile; can rush from different positions
Is able to play in a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme
Can beat double teams
Good pad level

Good but not great speed
Some criticize his motor

Summary: Coples enters the 2012 NFL Draft as the top 4-3 defensive end. He had a breakout 2010 season with 10 sacks, 15.5 tackles for loss, 59 tackles and two forced fumbles as a junior. He also showed the flexibility to rush from the inside at defensive tackle. His speed and quickness was a difficult task for guards.

In his senior season, Coples faced constant double teams, but stayed reasonably productive. He totaled 55 tackles with 15 tackles for a loss, 7.5 sacks, three forced fumbles and a plethora of quarterback hurries. North Carolina also went to a 3-4 defense at times, and Coples played well as a five-technique defensive end. At the Senior Bowl, Coples was dominant in the one-on-one pass rushing drills and showed that he will make offenses pay when they single block him. He absolutely destroyed offensive tackle Zebrie Sanders with speed rushes around the corner and bull rushes through the right tackle. It was an impressive week that confirmed Coples' high draft grade.

When Coples gets leverage, it is over. He has too much strength for tackles to hold back and is too fast for them to recover to move in front of. In the NFL, he would be best as a 4-3 defensive end where he can rush the passer with free abandon. Coples has the strength and size to be left defensive end, and when lining up there, his speed has been too much for right tackles to handle. He also has the speed to battle left tackles as a right defensive end. Left tackles don't typically see ends with Coples' power, size and speed. Coples is a solid run defender who holds his ground and can disrupt running plays that go the perimeter on his side. If Coples lands with a good coach who keeps him motivated and focused, he could be a Pro Bowl defensive end.

Player Comparison: Will Smith. Both Smith and Coples are defensive ends who are heavier than typical speed rushers. Both can use length and strength to beat offensive tackles. Smith and Coples have a speed element to their game, but do not the blinding speed of rushers like Jason Pierre-Paul or Julius Peppers.

For the New Orleans Saints, Smith has had a fine pro career. Smith (6-3, 282) has totaled 61.5 sacks in eight seasons with a career high of 13 sacks in 2009. In the 2004 NFL Draft, Smith was viewed as a high draft pick but slid to the 18th selection. A drop that far is unlikely for Coples, but it is possible that he could get into the 10-12 range. In the NFL, Coples could be a rusher and have a career that is comparable to Smith's.

knickballer 03-30-2012 07:47 PM

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Miami Dolphins select:
Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
6'4, 220, 4.58 40

From draft countdown:

Prototypical height with the frame to bulk up further
Well above average athleticism, speed and mobility
Adequate arm strength to make all necessary throws
Shows solid touch, timing, accuracy and anticipation
Stands tall in the pocket and will keep eyes downfield
Makes solid decisions and takes care of the football
Competitive and is tough both physically and mentally
Mature and extremely intelligent w/ great work ethic
A respected leader who teammates will rally around
Still developing and has a lot of untapped potential

Miami has failed on addressing the QB position. They struck out by failing to get Peyton Manning, Alex Smith and Matt Flynn and instead had to sign David Garrard. Garrard isn't the long term answer and may not even be relevant again. Dolphins haven't invested a top ten pick let alone a first round pick since they drafted Dan Marion way back, it's time to fix that. Tannehill might be a reach at this spot but generally QB's are always selected higher than they should be, recent examples are Christian Ponder and Jake Locker last year. Tannehill is a really good prospect who is extremely athletic, he may be raw but he won't have to start right away as they have some stop gaps in Matt Moore and David Garrard. All the elite prospects were selected and this is the best pick.

irondarts 03-30-2012 07:57 PM

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With the 9th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Carolina Panthers Select:

Dontari Poe, DT/NT, Memphis - 6'4/346

First of all, let me start by saying this isn't the DT I'd take, I think he has a good chance of being a bust, but I think the Panthers are going to take him here. DT is their biggest need and he is being hyped as the top guy, and they need more a NT type, which Poe is. Not to mention he's an incredible athlete for his size. Overall a big risk/reward pick. Poe could either turn into a monster or a bust, it will depend on his attitude and work ethic at the next level.

Scouting Report (via walterfootball):


Extremely rare athlete
Elite straight-line speed
Great quickness
Quick feet
Overpowering strength
Huge bulk
Constantly fills his gap
Pursues quickly downfield
Space eater
Very agile
Requires multiple blockers
Potential as a zero-technique
Ready to play immediately in the NFL
Incredibly hard to move at line of scrimmage
Durable; missed one game in three seasons

Inconsistent motor
Reputation for taking plays off
Lack of production

Summary: Poe is considered to be the top defensive tackle in the 2012 NFL Draft class. He is a quick and powerful force at the line of scrimmage who has the ability to be very disruptive. Poe is a rare athlete with his speed and strength at his massive size. After three seasons at Memphis, he decided to skip his senior season to enter the 2012 NFL Draft.

Poe had a tremendous performance at the NFL Scouting Combine. Prior to the Combine, his stock was in the latter half of the first round, but after dominating in Indianapolis, he boosted his stock into the top half of the first round. Poe had an amazing 40-yard dash time of 4.87 seconds with a 10-yard split of 1.68. Those were astounding numbers for such a heavy defensive tackle. Poe also led all prospects with 44 reps on the bench press. He did well in the field drills and showed off rare agility.

The biggest negative about Poe's draft stock is his lack of production at the college level. With his special skill set, he should have produced more and put together a bigger stat line, especially at his lower level of competition. Poe totaled 33 tackles with eight tackles for a loss, one sack and one forced fumble in 2011. As a sophomore the year before, he had 41 tackles with 6.5 tackles for a loss and two sacks.

One glaring negative is that Poe earned a reputation of taking plays off. He is sure to get grilled about that in team interviews and will need to have some good answers.

Despite those concerns, very rarely does an athlete like Poe enter the NFL. Defenses can do a lot with a player like him since he commands double teams on virtually every snap. There is a lack of zero-technique 3-4 nose tackle prospects and Poe can fit that role along with playing nose tackle in a 4-3 defense.

Player Comparison: Haloti Ngata. It is tough to find a player comparable to Poe in the NFL. The closest thing to a size and athletic-ability perspective may be Ngata (6-4, 330), but I'm hesitant to say that Poe will turn into as a good a player as Ngata is for Baltimore. The Raven Pro Bowler is a disruptive force at the line of scrimmage who can beat double teams with power and speed. He was the 12th-overall pick in the 2006 NFL Draft. Poe should go in the same general area this April. While Poe may not be as dominant as Ngata, his game could be similar to Ngata's with less of an impact.

irondarts 03-30-2012 08:06 PM

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With the 10th Pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, The Buffalo Bills select:

Riley Reiff, Offensive Tackle, Iowa - 6'5/315

Love this pick by the Bills, before getting Mario Williams I thought they would go with a DE here, but instead they go with Reiff who is the second best OT in this draft and could be a franchise LT, something the Bills would love to have to protect Fitzpatrick.

scouting report (via WalterFootball):


Quick feet
Mirrors well with speed rushers
Knee bend
Anchors well against bull rushers
Quality run blocker
Good pad level
Mobility to hit blocks on the second level
Reliable pass protector
Advanced technique
Flexible to play zone-blocking or man-blocking scheme
Kicks out well to set up perimeter runs
Ready to play immediately in the NFL

Arm length is less than ideal
Doesn't overpower in the ground game
Allowed some sacks in 2011
Good enough athleticism, but not an elite athlete

Summary: The consensus second-rated offensive tackle in the 2012 NFL Draft is a well-rounded prospect. Reiff is a good athlete who is a dependable pass protector and a quality run blocker. Reiff was clearly well coached at Iowa, and he enters the NFL with the ability to be a high level technician at left tackle.

In the pass-driven NFL, teams need reliable blind-side protectors, and Reiff fits the bill. He has quick feet and mirrors speed rushers well. He has good knee bend that allows him to maintain leverage against defensive linemen. Reiff has enough strength and weight in his base to anchor against bull rushers.

Reiff had an excellent game last season against Pitt speed-rusher Brandon Lindsey. Everything that Lindsey threw at Reiff was stopped with ease. However, Reiff allowed a sack to Pitt defensive end Aaron Donald. Against Oklahoma, Reiff faired well against pass rusher Frank Alexander. As in the Pitt contest, another defender, R.J. Washington, beat Reiff for a sack. Reiff generally was very dependable to be a good pass protector for Iowa.

Reiff is a strong run blocker who has the strength to move linemen off the line of scrimmage. He can be a drive blocker and has the mobility to hit blocks on the second level of the defense. Iowa had a strong ground game and Reiff was an essential part of it.

Reiff should be able to step in and play immediately in the NFL. It would be a good idea though to give Reiff some help against speed-rushers, as is the case with most rookies, if not veterans. It is expected that Reiff will go in the 6-13 range of the 2012 NFL Draft, and be a long-term answer at tackle for the team that takes him. Reiff also projects to have the ability play right tackle.

Player Comparison: Ryan Clady. Reiff's game mirrors Clady. They both are nice athletes who play with good technique. Clady is a well-rounded blocker who can run block and pass block. In the 2008 NFL Draft, the Broncos took Clady with the 12th overall pick. Reiff should go in the same area.

takeittothehoop 03-30-2012 08:16 PM

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The Kansas City Chiefs select David DeCastro G Stanford

The Chiefs could use some interior OL help so the addition of DeCastro will certainly bolster their offensive line and provide some additional protection for Matt Cassell along with improved run blocking for Jamaal Charles who is returning from injury.

6'5" 310lbs

Elite run blocker
Powerful drive blocker
Great at pulling
Hits blocks on second level of defense
Mobile and athletic
Great technique with hand placement
Textbook knee bend
Rock-solid pass protector
Proven leader; passion for the game
Winner at collegiate level
Durable, experienced 3-year starter

Was not challenged by good group of pass-rushers

Summary: David DeCastro has been a dominant force for Stanford the past few years. He has been Stanford's featured run blocker, as they averaged 213.8 yards on the ground in 2010 and 208 yards per game this season. Last year he was a second-team All-American and moved up to the first-team in 2011. DeCastro is fabulous at pulling and setting the edge. He can drive block and ride defenders around the field. DeCastro is quick and gets upfield to hit blocks on linebackers. He also is very effective on screen plays. He is a pure road-grader on the ground.

In pass protection, DeCastro slides well. Bull rushes are completely ineffective as he has a strong base and anchors with ease. With his quickness and athleticism to fire back, quick three-technique pass-rushers struggle against DeCastro.

DeCastro only had a few reps this year against Washington's massive defensive tackle Alameda Ta'amu, but DeCastro won all of the reps. Stanford ran for 446 yards in the game.

Player Comparison: Steve Hutchinson. Hutchinson has been one of the best guards in the NFL over the past decade and justified being a top-20 pick. Both DeCastro and Hutchinson are well-rounded players. Hutchinson has been a fabulous run blocker and solid pass protector. DeCastro looks like he should be a similar player at the next level.

DeCastro looks like a mid first-round pick just like Hutchinson. In the 2001 NFL Draft, Hutchinson was the 17th-overall pick by the Seahawks. DeCastro should go in the same range this year.

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