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Tenchi Ryu 07-01-2012 05:45 AM

Asik is definitely gone....
 
Houston's crazy asses just offered this fool 8 million a year, i don't see no way in hell how we can comfortably match that....And I definitely value Gibson more than Asik, so he's the one who'd get all my money. Sorry, Asik....its been nice knowing you.

Crystallas 07-01-2012 07:24 AM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
I don't mind him leaving. I like Omer, so don't put me on the hate train.

But letting him go for nothing? He isn't worth 8mil a year. 6 is the most I would pay him, mainly because this is a centers market.

ConanRulesNBC 07-01-2012 08:39 PM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
I'm happy the Bulls didn't over pay him. That deal is ridiculous. He'll be a great defensive player but I can't picture him becoming anything good on offense. In his prime I could picture him putting up 5 PPG and 10 RPG. Not like Noah who can put up double doubles easily.

methusala 07-01-2012 09:00 PM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
5M
5.225M
15M

Year by year breakdowns.

No ****ing way he's worth that. Love ya Omer, but see ya later and best of luck in Houston.

Abe Frohman 07-01-2012 09:15 PM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
Wasn't there just a lockout for crap contract like this? How is Asik even worth that???? Is Houston going to amnesty him mid season? Ridiculous move for Houston..

nightprowler10 07-02-2012 01:50 AM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
We COULD match that with the intention of trading him in the third season. But yeah I'm pretty sure he's a goner.

Crystallas 07-02-2012 04:16 AM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Frohman
Wasn't there just a lockout for crap contract like this? How is Asik even worth that???? Is Houston going to amnesty him mid season? Ridiculous move for Houston..


They can't amnesty him. Amnesties are for players signed before the lockout.

pegasus 07-02-2012 12:40 PM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nightprowler10
We COULD match that with the intention of trading him in the third season. But yeah I'm pretty sure he's a goner.


That's a good idea actually. He is a big center who will be a big expirer; I'm sure there would be some teams interested.

ballinhun8 07-02-2012 02:09 PM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
Damn I grew to like this kid alot in his two years here but that is just a financially bad decision to try to get him back.



Any news on Mirotic?


Now we have to look for a veteran big man in Free Agency because with the injury plagued guys we have, we need the depth.

ljsbb27 07-02-2012 07:09 PM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
Could we work out a sign and trade to get back something from Houston.

I believe we can, but I'm not sure on the guidelines of sign and trade deals.

We can threaten Houston and say that unless we work out a sign and trade deal then we'll just match the deal and keep him away from them. Even though that could turn around and hurt us if we match and are stuck paying him that contract. But they seem to really want him and also have been rumored to being shopping several of their guys so why not include them in a deal to ensure they get Asik.

Try to get Kevin Martin and Kyle Lowry. Kevin Martin could be the answer at Shooting Guard and Kyle Lowry would fill in nicely for DRose while he's out and be one of the best backups in the league once Derrick returns. If Teague shows he can play as Lowry's backup then when DRose comes back we would still have a nice tradable asset in Lowry.

Bulls send Asik, Watson and Brewer to the Rockets for

Martin, Lowry and Morris.

Increase/decrease as needed to make salaries match, but I think that deal helps both teams.

dee-rose 07-02-2012 08:32 PM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
Too much to match. I liked Asik... hopefully he does well in Houston. Wish we could have gotten Courtney Lee for him earlier tho.

1rkrage 07-02-2012 10:25 PM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ballinhun8
Damn I grew to like this kid alot in his two years here but that is just a financially bad decision to try to get him back.


same here :(

I just wish that whatever the Bulls do is for the benefit of the team and not some haphazard plan.


farc the rockets for forcing the Bulls hands. :facepalm

Crystallas 07-03-2012 02:02 AM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
Gar said today that Houston made no offer yet, and the new rumor is that Thibs went out to LA to talk to Asik, and they are working on a 4 year/20mil contract.

Not sure what to believe. I'll wait until someone actually signs something.

insidehoops 07-03-2012 02:41 AM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
Chicago Tribune:


General manager Gar Forman declined to address whether the Bulls will match Omer Asik's three-year, $24.2 million offer sheet from the Rockets, which Asik will sign when the free-agent moratorium ends July 11.

The Bulls will have three days to match the deal, which could rise slightly in value depending on what the salary cap is set at on July 10.

"I'm not going to talk about any type of negotiation or anything contractually until we see something," Forman said. "We've made it clear we value Omer and it's been our goal that Omer would stay with the Bulls."

Letswin 07-04-2012 05:23 PM

Re: Asik is definitely gone....
 
I would like to see the Bulls keep Asik, and I think the bulls should match the offer. Howard and Hibbert may be the 2 best centers in the NBA, but what Asik does for the team doesn't show up in the stats. Why not trade Noah and let Asik develop an offensive game to go with his great defense.

Really it's only paying $5 mil for each of the first two years, with the 3rd year being $15 mil. This would give good trade value going into the last year as an expiring contract if the bulls look for a trade, but surely don't let him go for the first two years of the contract.


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