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brwnman 07-16-2012 04:23 AM

Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
As expected, James Johnson is no longer on the team.

as per Marc Stein via twitter...

bokes15 07-16-2012 04:29 AM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
What a joke. We trade a first rounder to get the guy, and we trade him away for a 2nd rounder.

Prodigy 07-16-2012 05:18 AM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

HE WAS OUR BEST SF

BoogieWoogieMan 07-16-2012 05:40 AM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodigy
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

HE WAS OUR BEST SF


Not only that, he was our best defensive player. Seriously, **** this team.

Qwyjibo 07-16-2012 09:55 AM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
Hey look, another case of mismanagement of assets!

Shouldn't a bad young team with no star talent try to hang onto solid cheap rotation guys like Johnson and Bayless?

:wtf:

Chamberlain 07-16-2012 12:31 PM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
So, we traded a first rounder for a meaningless year and a half of James Johnson and a 2nd round pick?



edit: to be fair, apparently this move was to "free up cap space", so I guess I should hold off on judging this move too harshly until we see what the next move is. But as of now, it gets a big pee-ewwww from me.

brwnman 07-16-2012 04:27 PM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
Quote:

PG Bayless (23 yrs) - 3 mil, 6 mil total commit, 17.7 PER
SF Johnson (25 yrs) - 2.8 mil, 14.5 PER
SF Weems (26 yrs) - 2 mil, 4 mil total commit, 10.2 PER

Combined 7.8 mil next season, 12.8 mil total commit, average age 24.66, average PER 14.1

PG Calderon (31 yrs) - 10.5 mil, 16.7 PER
SF Fields (24 ys) - 6.3 mil, 19.9 mil total commit, 12.0 PER,
SF Kleiza (27 yrs) - 4.6 mil, 9.2 mil total commit, 12.4 PER

Combined 21.4 mil next season, 39.7 mil total commit, average age 27.3, average PER 13.7

saw this on realgm, lol...

lilbeastnani 07-16-2012 07:14 PM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
It's so stupid. And everyone said they'd rather have James Johnson than Norris Cole (who the pick turned out to be), but i'd rather have Norris Cole than some random 2nd rounder who will likelynever amount to anything.

Chamberlain 07-16-2012 07:37 PM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
I wasn't in favor of trading the 1st round pick for James Johnson either, but I was pleasantly surprised with his game last year. But now flipping him for a 2nd rounder is just laughable.

GoRapz 07-16-2012 09:06 PM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
I'm not mad that JJ is gone but i'm disappointed we could have only flipped him for a 2nd rounder...was his value that low?? Or maybe this is part of a plan that brings over a more established SF?

I wouldn't think too much of this trade though...Yeah JJ was our best perimeter defender but lets be real who else did we have on the roster? Kleiza?? Forbes?? JJ's a dime a dozen player that was noted for his D cuz his offense was a complete train wreck

JJ's a scrub who plays hard...i'm sure if Casey saw real talent in him he'd still be here regardless of whats happened in the past

Dr.Funk 07-16-2012 09:24 PM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
So we trade a 1st for him, he improves and then we trade him for a 2nd?


:wtf:

bokes15 07-17-2012 01:49 AM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Funk
So we trade a 1st for him, he improves and then we trade him for a 2nd?


:wtf:

exactly what i'm saying. I was also one who was against the initial trade to bring him here. But then he proved himself to be a solid piece for us, and being that we are a young rebuilding team a guy we could've held on to for a little while. Instead we overpay a guy who is only 1 year younger, being paid twice as much and marginally better overall, at best.

oamjad13 07-17-2012 02:48 AM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
what is up with us and 2nd round picks. FIrst barbosa and now this, freaking dissapointing.

Beebo 07-17-2012 05:25 AM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oamjad13
what is up with us and 2nd round picks. FIrst barbosa and now this, freaking dissapointing.


Its the raptors...deal with it.

b4ball 07-17-2012 02:07 PM

Re: Raptors trade James Johnson to Kings for a 2nd rounder
 
Defense in todays game is all about team play. Who cares what you can do individually, it takes a team to be effective.

JJ was very good as an individual defensive player. He was fun to watch swatting balls away and coming from no where. But he was a rogue player. As casey Said, he was just good enough to have a coach fired.

So as flashy as JJ was he was a problem for a defensive coach trying to establish a system. So though I liked seeing those blocks, at the end of the day it was all flash and nobody wins with flash. It entertains. And from fans here I would hope that most of you would see that.

So from my perspective I don't care about what he gets paid so much as I care about allowing Casey to develop a strong defensive core that will actually result in wins.

Watching Fields play I think he fits the mold as a defensive systems guy who has some offense. A balance is needed, so regardless of what we all consider a certain player is worth, it can only be measured by how he fits into the system.

This years MVP will actually be Casey. A coach who knows what he wants, knows what he needs to see his vision come to fruition.

JJ did not fit, and it's always a good move to find a better fit. And good luck to JJ.


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