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baller03 11-08-2012 09:30 AM

Frustration is kicking in...
 
What the hell is going on here. We have no defense, no offense, no rebounding. Our offense is so stagnant and the opposing teams know exactly what we are going to do all the time. What do we have to do get this team turned around and start competing. My patience is running short when I see no motivation from the players to even hussle for the ball. Also, Ross is getting minimal playing time especially behind Anderson (is this dude really our future?). Let's get JV more touches in the post and run some PICK AND ROLLS for this dude he made a living out of this on his previous team.

What are your thoughts ?

Jballer 11-08-2012 10:57 AM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
Sorry - not to be mean but you may have had a misplaced sense of optimism.

I think a lot of us projected Raptors 10th place in east. This traditionally translates to around 35 wins on average over the years.

Not withstanding this very young line up and I suppose upside in a number of few players to be realized.... this team does simply does not have the proven talent yet to compete.

Compare this to the vetern "old" line up of the Knicks for example. People dis'ed the team but Kidd/Felton/ Camby add a lot at clutch time. They know their roles - they know how to win !

It could be even worse - this team "could be capable" of only 28 wins honestly. So much of the Raptor improvement comes from commitment to D fence ... but those type of gains only go so far. Other teams inprove as well. Other teams aquire talent to make the Raptors commitment to D not enough to overcome talent gaps.

00playboy00 11-08-2012 11:05 AM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
trade bargani and calderon = changing the culture.

T-Low 11-08-2012 11:40 AM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
Easy answer. It's the Raptors.

kaiteng 11-08-2012 11:51 AM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
Still, Raptors have the same records as Lakers. So, yeah......

neilio23 11-08-2012 05:13 PM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
Frustration settles in every time I see Fields attempt a layup...

Himan12 11-09-2012 04:22 PM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baller03
What the hell is going on here. We have no defense, no offense, no rebounding. Our offense is so stagnant and the opposing teams know exactly what we are going to do all the time. What do we have to do get this team turned around and start competing. My patience is running short when I see no motivation from the players to even hussle for the ball. Also, Ross is getting minimal playing time especially behind Anderson (is this dude really our future?). Let's get JV more touches in the post and run some PICK AND ROLLS for this dude he made a living out of this on his previous team.

What are your thoughts ?


Team's makeup is terrible. Outside of lowry/jv and Derozan's pleasant start (minus the opener) this team doesnt really have much going for it.

Dont let whatever bs BC and co spew out get to you. This team isnt good enough to be a playoff team. Even if lowry decides to stay in this **** hole and jv/derozan hit their potential this team isnt good enough to be a perennial contender. (I would think they would be an allstar sf away, dont know where he'll come from though). But I see where you are coming from, they should give the young guys alot of burn (ED, JV, Ross) and see what they have.

n00bie 11-09-2012 08:36 PM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baller03
What the hell is going on here. We have no defense, no offense, no rebounding. Our offense is so stagnant and the opposing teams know exactly what we are going to do all the time. What do we have to do get this team turned around and start competing. My patience is running short when I see no motivation from the players to even hussle for the ball. Also, Ross is getting minimal playing time especially behind Anderson (is this dude really our future?). Let's get JV more touches in the post and run some PICK AND ROLLS for this dude he made a living out of this on his previous team.

What are your thoughts ?


I thought this was expected? :biggums:

Prodigy 11-10-2012 01:29 AM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
At its best, this team is probably 35 wins in the East. It may climb up to the high 40s in the future if we keep our young core together and they develop but there probably isn't enough talent to ever challenge for a top 4 seed for the next while.

Carrib 11-10-2012 05:37 PM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
why does all Toronto professional sport teams suck?.. why cant us fans get a dam break.

RaininThrees 11-11-2012 09:04 AM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
Raptors fans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjQZNAfxaTw#t=00m06s

Qwyjibo 11-11-2012 10:56 AM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
I would be ok if everyone in the entire organization was out other than Lowry and Valanciunas. All the other players, the entire management staff, all the coaches, the trainers, the PR staff, the janitors, etc. Blow it the hell up.

stalf 11-11-2012 05:48 PM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
fields out
bargs out ( hes had 7 years )
Ajohnson out (7mil/yr)
calderon out
too bad derozan wasnt 5-7mil/year. :/

Sakkreth 11-12-2012 04:55 AM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwyjibo
I would be ok if everyone in the entire organization was out other than Lowry and Valanciunas. All the other players, the entire management staff, all the coaches, the trainers, the PR staff, the janitors, etc. Blow it the hell up.


:roll:

el gringos 11-12-2012 11:51 AM

Re: Frustration is kicking in...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stalf
fields out
bargs out ( hes had 7 years )
Ajohnson out (7mil/yr)
calderon out
too bad derozan wasnt 5-7mil/year. :/

Out- fields, Bargnani, Amir, Calderon
In- Ryan Anderson, Darren collison, Shawn Marion


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