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Skywalker 12-12-2012 01:19 PM

Bargnani Out Indefinitely
 
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Let the winning streak COMMENSE

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Bargnani out indefinitely, Casey says bright spot is this will be Ed Davis' time to shine

Bcogswell 12-12-2012 01:30 PM

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Lets hope Ed and Val can stay out of foul trouble so Casey has no excuse to bench them.

Zan Tabak 12-12-2012 02:51 PM

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Works for me! :cheers:

Chamberlain 12-12-2012 03:00 PM

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It'll be interesting to see how differently the offense flows tonight.

bokes15 12-12-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zan Tabak
Works for me! :cheers:

:cheers: Me too. The only possible scenario for Val and Davis getting more minutes was for Bargs and Amir to be inactive for the game. And it finally happened, for one glorious night, we don't have to see Jamal Crawford jacking up 3's and playing lazy defense. Hopefully if Casey is smart he will run the game in a half court with Val in the post.

brwnman 12-12-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chamberlain
It'll be interesting to see how differently the offense flows tonight.


I think offense will still be bogged down and just clogged in general. The main difference should be on defense and rebounding.

Offensively, for Ed and Val to be consistently efficient is to have perimeter players to penetrate and dish. Neither Ed nor Val are players you can dump the ball down to; but they'll work harder than the man they're facing and will get easy garbage points...

Chamberlain 12-12-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by brwnman
I think offense will still be bogged down and just clogged in general. The main difference should be on defense and rebounding.


A difference in defense in rebounding is the obvious change we'll see tonight, but I'm wondering if there will be more ball-movement tonight as a result of the ballstopper being out of the lineup or if someone else will just start doing all the jacking. Not sexual.

bokes15 12-12-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brwnman
I think offense will still be bogged down and just clogged in general. The main difference should be on defense and rebounding.

Offensively, for Ed and Val to be consistently efficient is to have perimeter players to penetrate and dish. Neither Ed nor Val are players you can dump the ball down to; but they'll work harder than the man they're facing and will get easy garbage points...

Agree on Davis, disagree on Val. Sure he's no Tim Duncan down on the blocks but the man does have post moves and is a post player. It's hard to penetrate and dish using guards when you have 2 guys that won't leave the paint. That's why I could only see a lineup like this succeeding if you dump it in to the big man down low and let him either operate down there one on one or dish it out to the perimeter if he gets doubled.

brwnman 12-12-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bokes15
Agree on Davis, disagree on Val. Sure he's no Tim Duncan down on the blocks but the man does have post moves and is a post player. It's hard to penetrate and dish using guards when you have 2 guys that won't leave the paint. That's why I could only see a lineup like this succeeding if you dump it in to the big man down low and let him either operate down there one on one or dish it out to the perimeter if he gets doubled.


I think Val can eventually become a player you can throw the ball down there for a play or two. But he is still very raw; he doesn't have a consistent go-to move and a counter move. You see flashes of it, but it's not polished just yet. I see him as a Marc Gasol type player in the future...

RaininThrees 12-12-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chamberlain
It'll be interesting to see how differently the offense flows tonight.


Honestly, I think it'll be more interesting to see if it flows when Lowry gets back.

bokes15 12-12-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brwnman[B
I think Val can eventually become a player you can throw the ball down there for a play or two. But he is still very raw; he doesn't have a consistent go-to move and a counter move.[/b] You see flashes of it, but it's not polished just yet. I see him as a Marc Gasol type player in the future...

Oh yeah, I definitely agree to that. I guess I was moreso talking long term the way I hope that we end up using him. Your right he is very raw right now and can't be depended on consistently on the block.

Dr.Funk 12-12-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RaininThrees
Honestly, I think it'll be more interesting to see if it flows when Lowry gets back.


Mike James.

RaininThrees 12-12-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Funk
Mike James.


Maybe.

Maybe he's still trying to figure out his teammates. Maybe we've been subjected to sub-par PG play for so long we over value someone who looks like a capable NBA PG.

brwnman 12-12-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Funk
Mike James.


he had an outstanding year with the Raptors. Played out of his mind and ability, but his year in Toronto was awesome...

Reef 12-12-2012 11:11 PM

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There goes any chance of trading Bargs.


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