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ltuball 07-09-2008 09:22 AM

Beijing 2008
 
Your predictions for the Olympics Basketball?

Gold-USA

Silver-Spain/Argentina/Lithuania

Raj Da Dodge 07-09-2008 10:08 AM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Well if its for basketball then U.S. is winning gold 100% and silver I think will go to maybe Aregentina/Greece/Lithuania/Spain

berraco 07-09-2008 04:32 PM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Hey, let's be homer:

Gold: Spain. They are the best TEAM, the most balanced and a lot of players have taken a big step this year. Final should be guaranteed at least.

Silver: USA. The best roster in terms of players, obviously, but it is to be seen if the can really play as needed with FIBA rules to demonstrate. They will suffer more than expected having only one true C. Also guaranteed the final.

Bronze: Lithuania. A really good mixture of youngs and veterans, I think it is time for them to definitively step up to the podium after some years underperforming.

I think Croatia will make a big impact this Olympics, so let's say they are fourth. I have the feeling Argentina and Greece will fail this time. Russia overperformed in the Eurobasket, and they should not advance to the semis.

Buffalobraves 07-09-2008 07:33 PM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Gold: USA, Kobe vs Navvaro Lebron vs Carlos Jiménez turns out to get the advantage.

Pau vs Howard doesn't work out because Pau can't play though (NBA finals vs Garnett).

I dont think Marc is ready for NBA calliber players, he could do some damage with Melo covering him but once Bosh gets in hes in trouble I think.

All 3 U.S. Point Guards are better then Calderon.

Silver: Spain, along with the U.S. no one will be able to beat them. (Some may come close though)


Bronze: Lithuania, They fight it out for bronze with Greece.

berraco 07-10-2008 01:05 AM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalobraves
Gold: USA, Kobe vs Navvaro Lebron vs Carlos Jiménez turns out to get the advantage.

Pau vs Howard doesn't work out because Pau can't play though (NBA finals vs Garnett).

I dont think Marc is ready for NBA calliber players, he could do some damage with Melo covering him but once Bosh gets in hes in trouble I think.

All 3 U.S. Point Guards are better then Calderon.

Silver: Spain, along with the U.S. no one will be able to beat them. (Some may come close though)


Bronze: Lithuania, They fight it out for bronze with Greece.


Just point out that Pau plays PF if Marc is out there. I suppose your prediction will still hold :oldlol: But yeah, I think the final should be USA vs Spain. Like in L.A.'84.

Buffalobraves 07-10-2008 11:15 AM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by berraco
Just point out that Pau plays PF if Marc is out there. I suppose your prediction will still hold :oldlol: But yeah, I think the final should be USA vs Spain. Like in L.A.'84.

Oh, is Marc really bigger? I've never really seen him play that much.

simasu01 07-10-2008 05:14 PM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Well, since everyone is saying their national team will win, I will too.
1. Lithuania - it has to happen this summer, because the main core won't be there anymore(Ilgauskas never was a part, but the main players always are Jasikevicius, and Songaila, and for sure they will quit international basketball. Kleiza has been motivating everyone and looks to be the next leader. We have a good squad, all we need is a back up point guard, we'll be fine, just not if Giedrius Gustas plays, he didn't fit with the national team last year.
2. Spain - I think they will choke again, I see them going undefeated again, and losing in the final. I won't be surprised if they win, but I think they will lose a narrow game. There would be some great match ups, Calderon vs. Jasikevicius, Rudy v Siskauskas, Lavrinovic twins vs. Gasol brothers, etc.
3. Argentina or USA - If Manu Ginobili plays, I would take Argentina, if not, USA. Also it really depends on the semis. If a semi would be USA vs. ESP and ARG vs. LTU, I would take ESP and LTU in the final. If USA vs. ARG and ESP vs. LTU, I would say USA and LTU, and finally if it is USA vs. LTU and ESP vs. ARG, I would take LTU vs. ESP. In other words, I don't see Argentina advancing to the finals without Ginobili. But these are the top 4, I have no doubt.

berraco 07-10-2008 05:38 PM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalobraves
Oh, is Marc really bigger? I've never really seen him play that much.


Not sure if he is 7.0 or 7.1, but he is much stronger than Pau. Marc is a true center, in fact. Pau is a PF forced to play the C.

Quote:

Originally Posted by simasu01
Also it really depends on the semis. If a semi would be USA vs. ESP and ARG vs. LTU, I would take ESP and LTU in the final. If USA vs. ARG and ESP vs. LTU, I would say USA and LTU, and finally if it is USA vs. LTU and ESP vs. ARG, I would take LTU vs. ESP. In other words, I don't see Argentina advancing to the finals without Ginobili. But these are the top 4, I have no doubt.

If I'm not wrong since Spain and USA play in the same group they shouldn't face each other again until the final.

Buffalobraves 07-11-2008 12:25 AM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by berraco
Not sure if he is 7.0 or 7.1, but he is much stronger than Pau. Marc is a true center, in fact. Pau is a PF forced to play the C.


Hopefully I get to like him more then his soft brother.

simasu01 07-11-2008 11:54 PM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by berraco
Not sure if he is 7.0 or 7.1, but he is much stronger than Pau. Marc is a true center, in fact. Pau is a PF forced to play the C.


If I'm not wrong since Spain and USA play in the same group they shouldn't face each other again until the final.


Pau Gasol is not an American type of player. What I mean is he isn't a so-called banger, he doesn't crash rebounds or use his full strength to play the game, and US coaches don't understand that there can be different style big men, like Nowitzki or Ilgauskas. Pau Gasol is a good shooter from his range, and he's good inside, but his brother went to school in the US, and I'm sure coaches taught him the American way of playing center, and personally, I prefer players like Pau, because he uses more skill rather than strength.

As for the teams in the same group, I don't know how the system works after groups, therefore I gave many examples of how the final rounds would turn out. If you are right, I am not liking the situation for Lithuania, who would then, if they advance to the semis, play most likely Spain or USA, if they advance also.
I just checked online, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketb...ockout_St age, this shows that it is possible for teams from the same group cannot meet in the quarterfinals, but it is a possibility to meet in the semis, for example if Spain finishes first in the group, and USA is third, they can meet in the semis. I'm sure you will understand the way it works when you look at the format, if you already don't. But it is very unlikely that either USA or Spain would finish third. Same goes to Lithuania and Argentina.

berraco 07-13-2008 04:31 PM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
^^ You're fully rigth in everything you said. I was thinking in USA and Spain being first and second in the group, that's why I said they will only meet in the finals, but yeah, if that doesn't happens they could face each other in the semis.

simasu01 07-13-2008 07:46 PM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
I agree with you, while I would also just assume that they would be top 2, there is still a possibility, which I am praying to that it will happen that either USA or Spain will slip, it is a slim chance, but I'm hoping group B will get Greece and Croatia or Slovenia, while A gets Brazil or Slovenia. Hopefully, one of these teams will beat the US, and I'm sure Spain can, and hopefully will, which would likely help the US slip.

ClintDogg 07-14-2008 12:44 AM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Australia will feature in the Silver or bronze medals.

dd24 07-14-2008 05:08 AM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
Well, they were saying today that it is a good possibility that Manu could play. That puts Argentina right in the thick of things.

simasu01 07-15-2008 12:53 AM

Re: Beijing 2008
 
If Manu plays, I see Argentina finishing likely second, possibly first in the group. They aren't bad without him, but they wouldn't go far.


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