SGA Is Already Better than Peak Lebron

[1987_Lakers]

Either way, Taylor isn't tearing MJ down, he's simply being critical of where MJ's defense showed to have some negative impact. But it's a far cry from what 1987 is consistently trying to do.

My only statement is that he was overrated defensively, and you basically proved my point. You had Mike Fratello calling him the best defender in the league in 1993, when Hakeem was at his absolute peak at that end and who many consider the best defender since the merger. My points about the DPOY voting in 1993 & 1998 kind of prove my point as well.

Not to mention you have articles today naming MJ the GOAT defender
https://clutchpoints.com/nba/nba-sto...history-ranked





This one shows how overrated he is by fans, they have MJ ahead of guys like KG, Duncan, & Robinson.
https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best...e-v1/jeffnorth

I feel for the most part, most media/fans will have MJ as a top 10 defender ever. And that to me tells me he is overrated on that end, because he doesn't sniff the top 10.

He is the GOAT offensive player and an All-NBA defender, but nowhere near as impactful defensively as the other all-time great defenders.

[gengiskhan]

Not even close.

LBJ is "generational" talent.

SGA is not.

The thread should've been SGA already better than EuroTrash, Luka.

[Full Court]

Not even close.

LBJ is "generational" talent.

SGA is not.

The thread should've been SGA already better than EuroTrash, Luka.

He's better than both of them.

And the "generational" talent is also the biggest choker in the history of the sport.

[1987_Lakers]

The funny thing is if you watched the game, Indiana was hunting SGA on defense, similar to how the Cavs hunted Curry during their Finals. OKC is loaded with defenders so it makes sense to go at SGA, but this is the best two way player "since Jordan"?? A guy who gets hunted on defense??

Players were scared to go at peak LeBron.

[ImKobe]

The funny thing is if you watched the game, Indiana was hunting SGA on defense, similar to how the Cavs hunted Curry during their Finals. OKC is loaded with defenders so it makes sense to go at SGA, but this is the best two way player "since Jordan"?? A guy who gets hunted on defense??

Players were scared to go at peak LeBron.

KD, even in 2012, went at Bron in the Finals and there was nothing Bron could do to stop him lol.

They're not hunting SGA because he's not a good defender, they're going at him to make him work harder so he's less effective overall. I'm sure you knew that already.

[John8204]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2BF_KRNCzRM

In defense of Lebron...I'm not going to forget the double no call. If this series goes seven...I don't know

[Full Court]

KD, even in 2012, went at Bron in the Finals and there was nothing Bron could do to stop him lol.

They're not hunting SGA because he's not a good defender, they're going at him to make him work harder so he's less effective overall. I'm sure you knew that already.

I'm pretty sure he didn't know that already. He's not very smart, and he obviously feels threatened by SGA, knowing that he's already better than peak Lebron. Good job trying to educate him though. You're spot on. They're also hunting him hoping he gets into foul trouble.

[1987_Lakers]

KD, even in 2012, went at Bron in the Finals and there was nothing Bron could do to stop him lol.

They're not hunting SGA because he's not a good defender, they're going at him to make him work harder so he's less effective overall. I'm sure you knew that already.

He's Kevin Durant, but KD got most of his numbers in garbage time in those Finals. LeBron actually did a good job on him. And they are going at SGA because he is their weakest perimeter defender, doesn't make him a bad defender, but nonetheless they are attacking him. Calling SGA the best two way player in the last 30 years or so is flat out one of the dumbest things I have ever heard on this site.

[ShawkFactory]

KD, even in 2012, went at Bron in the Finals and there was nothing Bron could do to stop him lol.

They're not hunting SGA because he's not a good defender, they're going at him to make him work harder so he's less effective overall. I'm sure you knew that already.

Is that how you remember it?

He scored on Bron for sure. He was an unstoppable scorer lol.

Certainly didn't 'hunt" for that matchup lol

[GOBB]

Sorry, but you're once again showing how you're agenda driven.

1- I didn't argue the entirety of MJ's career. You conveniently highlighted 1998 whereas I mentioned '88-'93.

2- You then specify 1988, but only to tear down the DPOY. Nowhere did I say he in fact deserved it over Hakeem. I don't care that his steals and blocks may have been inflated. That wasn't my point. The point is that he was an elite defender between '88-'93.

You're focusing on the DPOY, meanwhile in '87 he averaged nearly the same amount of steals and blocks (2.9/1.5) without the discrepancy. In fact, he averaged almost the same amount of blocks that season whether home or away.

The DPOY award doesn't matter to me. I merely said he consistently finished top 5 because he was an elite defensive player.

3- Where does Taylor say he was an overrated defensive player, or that he wasn't great? Maybe I missed it.

4- You're mentioning '93 like I believe he was the best. I don't. That's why I put in parenthesis (irrespective of truth). I'm saying this is how he was viewed. It's why when Phil wanted to stop KJ from lighting up in the finals, he switched MJ onto him and KJ got shudown. Mike Fratello in the telecast goes onto say, "they put the best defensive player in the league on Kevin Johnson...."

Was he actually the best defensive player? No. I don't believe he was. But that's about all there was to the extent of him being "overrated."

But that's not what you're interested in. You want to make yourself believe that MJ was just an ordinary defensive player and maybe even just "good." To you, overrated is merely because of accolades being awarded, not actual impact on the game.

Good post

[Full Court]

He's Kevin Durant, but KD got most of his numbers in garbage time in those Finals. LeBron actually did a good job on him. And they are going at SGA because he is their weakest perimeter defender, doesn't make him a bad defender, but nonetheless they are attacking him. Calling SGA the best two way player in the last 30 years or so is flat out one of the dumbest things I have ever heard on this site.

Translation: "I'm angry!! Full Court said SGA was better than my sweet prince!!!! "

Just cry it out, Dudley.



And here's a pro tip for you. AI tools are getting very capable. You can try using them to figure out what an advanced stat is.

[Hey Yo]

^Incredibly low IQ take. OKC didn't draft a lot of their players. No team has drafted all their players. Organic means they developed their players rather than hunting for stars. Glad I could educate you.

No it doesn't.... your dumbass thought SGA was drafted by OKC

[1987_Lakers]

No it doesn't.... your dumbass thought SGA was drafted by OKC

[Full Court]

No it doesn't.... your dumbass thought SGA was drafted by OKC

Nice strawman. You don't know what "organic" means just like Dudley doesn't know what an advanced stat is.

Bronie fluffers = lowest IQ demographic on earth.