Ace Bailey is legit

[Xiao Yao You]

Kd?

https://thejnotes.com/bill-simmons-g...cite-jazz-fans

[tontoz]

Kd?

https://thejnotes.com/bill-simmons-g...cite-jazz-fans

Just stop

KD averaged 26/11 in college with 4 stocks.

[Xiao Yao You]

Not sure kd at 18 in a weaker college era means ace cant be an all time great

[tontoz]

Not sure kd at 18 in a weaker college era means ace cant be an all time great

Rutgers didn't exactly have a tough schedule.

Did you even watch any of his college games? I watched him a lot.

[Xiao Yao You]

Rutgers didn't exactly have a tough schedule.

Did you even watch any of his college games? I watched him a lot.

Never saw him play before summer. Kd being better at the same age in a weaker college game doesnt mean ace cant be an all time great. Looks like he could be great. We shall see

[Xiao Yao You]

Not sure what you were watching but big 10 was 2nd best conference and rutgers had 8th toughest schedule in the country

[tontoz]

Not sure what you were watching but big 10 was 2nd best conference and rutgers had 8th toughest schedule in the country

Where are you getting that from?

The SEC was the strongest conference by far. The highest ranked team from the big 10 was 7th. There are 18 teams in the big 10 and many of them are just mediocre.

Their non-coference games included:

Monmouth
Merimmak
Kennesaw State
Notre Dame
Columbia
Seton Hall

[Xiao Yao You]

The Big Ten was ranked as the second-best conference in men's college basketball last season based on the NET rankings. The conference also had eight teams selected for the NCAA Tournament, and multiple teams appeared in the final Associated Press and Coaches Polls, with Michigan State and Wisconsin finishing as the highest-ranked Big Ten teams.

Rutgers' schedule strength ranked 8th in the nation for the 2024-2025 season, according to TeamRankings.com.

[Xiao Yao You]

If you arent in sec you have a weak schedule? Big 12 had an off year. Usually the best. I saw plenty of good teams there. Certainly a higher level of play than kd faced when he played in it

[tontoz]

If you arent in sec you have a weak schedule? Big 12 had an off year. Usually the best. I saw plenty of good teams there. Certainly a higher level of play than kd faced when he played in it

KD averaged 26/11 shooting 47% from the field, 40% from 3. Ace averaged 17.6/7.2 on worse shooting. That is a huge gap.

Ace had 3 games all season where he scored 26.

Again i like Ace and had him 3 on my board but anyone comparing him to KD clearly didn't watch him play.

[GOBB]

Classic case of someone deciding not to concede vs reaching for straws to argue. Durant freshman season is argued as one of the all time greatest freshman seasons in HISTORY. I’ve never ever ever heard anyone speak on it being a “weaker” college in reference to his season. Like I said your energy wasn’t like this before when it came to Ace. How a summer league/preseason has you making these argument is beyond me. And you admit you didn’t even watch Ace play. Soooooo I’m lost at the replies here. Tontoz has without a doubt watched Ace a lot becuase we were in the thread with Cooper Flagg speaking on it. As he was a huge Dylan Harper fan.

[Xiao Yao You]

Classic case of someone deciding not to concede vs reaching for straws to argue. Durant freshman season is argued as one of the all time greatest freshman seasons in HISTORY. I’ve never ever ever heard anyone speak on it being a “weaker” college in reference to his season. Like I said your energy wasn’t like this before when it came to Ace. How a summer league/preseason has you making these argument is beyond me. And you admit you didn’t even watch Ace play. Soooooo I’m lost at the replies here. Tontoz has without a doubt watched Ace a lot becuase we were in the thread with Cooper Flagg speaking on it. As he was a huge Dylan Harper fan.

Bill simmons compared aces game to kds. Not sure what kds freshman year has to do with ace becoming great? Malone and stockton are too of the greats despite not being ncaa player of the year. Gobert went from project at 21 to the best player on his team within a year. College basketball is certainly better now with nil and the tranfer portal leading to more guys staying in school longer. Be hard to argue that but you seem to have the energy to do so. I linked you to my comments after his 2nd game. Trade lauri and build around ace. Not sure what has changed other than he continued to show out in pre season.

[Xiao Yao You]

Based on research by ESPN's John Gasaway, the average age of NCAA men's basketball players was significantly younger in the mid-2000s compared to last season. The average age has steadily increased over the past decade due to factors like the transfer portal and the granting of extra eligibility because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

[tontoz]

Based on research by ESPN's John Gasaway, the average age of NCAA men's basketball players was significantly younger in the mid-2000s compared to last season. The average age has steadily increased over the past decade due to factors like the transfer portal and the granting of extra eligibility because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

That's not going to make a 50% difference in production.

[Xiao Yao You]

That's not going to make a 50% difference in production.

Again not sure what durant at 18 has to do with ace being great