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Daaaaaaa Bullies
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,293
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Re: Dirk and Chauncey for...
FIRST of all, your "good buddy" is a total d-bag for offering KMart in a trade where you're giving him two top 20 players. That's an incredibly *****y thing to do, considering he's gonna miss 8-10 weeks. And since it's h2h, keeping him on the bench hurts you even more because its one less player that can move into your rotation each night. It sounds like you know about the injury, so why the heck would you even consider taking it?
Second, a question about your scoring: are you sure it's -1 for each ATTEMPTED fg and ft? Or did you mean -1 for each MISSED fg and ft? It seems strange to deduct points for attempting a shot if you're +1 for each shot made, but maybe that's some strange thing your league does for a measure of efficiency?
Third, (and I'm saying all of this because, based on your posts, it sounds like you havent crunched numbers yet), your scoring system changes player rankings from other more common leagues. It's all relative, but you'll find value in players that might not hold it in standard leagues, or the opposite, where players are overvalued. In a regular scoring system, guys that get higher quantities of those "hard to find" categories like steals, blocks and threes have a high player value. But in your system, a point and a block are worth the same, therefore the "hard to find" categories become a much less valued commodity. The most valuable players become guys who score, rebound and rack up assists, because these are the three cats that are most prevalent in the game.
For example, based on your scoring system, a guy like Oden does not command any sort of value, even though he was drafted and/or starts in most standard leagues. In a standard league, his 2.5 blocks per offer significant value, because each team in your league might only get 4-6 blocks per night throughout their entire lineup; you're getting 2.5 from one player alone, giving you a distinct advantage in that category every night. But in your league, his block is worth the same as one point scored, which is obviously much easier to come by. Oden's total value is around 26 points as of now (8 points, 9.5 boards, 2.5 blocks, .3 steals, .7 assists, 3.2 fgm and 1.7 ftm). Meanwhile, Aaron Brooks, who was drafted around the same area as Oden in leagues, is worth around 43 points in your setting (18.3, 2.5, .5, .7, 7.7, 6.7, 2.8, with 2.2 threes made as well). That might be a bad example because Brooks has been incredible based on where he was drafted, but you get my drift. Almost 20 total points more each night adds up big over the course of a week and a season. (Keep in mind this also does not factor in the -1 scoring, however it is set up, but you get where I'm going with it). So guys that only do a few things (Biedrins is a good example) might be highly overrated. Biedrins was probably drafted somewhere around 50 in standard leagues, but he's only worth 22 points based on his current game averages.
So what does this mean for you? It means you have to do your homework for trades and waiver moves, which will probably be more difficult than in a standard setting. Sit down and crunch numbers to figure out how much each of your guys are worth, along with waiver options. Then look at how much each of the guys are worth on your buddy's team, and create an offer from that. GWall is worth a lot in your league right now (around 45 points) because he's grabbing almost 15 boards per, even though in a standard setting he's ranked #106 based on season averages. That's just as example.
SO, in the deal your buddy just offered, here's the total points, give or take one:
Dirk: 59 total points
Chauncey: 40 total points
Total deal: 99 points
Dwight: 50 points
KMart: ZERO points for the next 8-10 weeks
Total deal: 50 points
You're CLEARLY getting hosed. If KMart was NOT injured, it'd be a different story (he'd be worth 62 points based on his current averages). If its me, I'm not dealing Dirk for much of anything. He's always good for 80 games, and his total production is stellar. Dwight is highly valued for his boards and blocks, and for fg%. Since blocks are worth so little, and you're not counting actual percentages, he doesnt hold as much value as you might think.
It sounds to me like your buddy has done the math for your league and is targeting players that he knows carry a lot of value for your scoring settings. My advice would be to take a few hours and crunch the numbers. You'll probably find some solid value on waivers that wouldve been overlooked by others, or at least it'll help you avoid potentially bad moves. It's all relative, because the best players ARE the best players in every setting because they do everything (like Dirk for example), but hopefully you'll uncover some steals and win your league. Good luck.
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