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Old 06-21-2010, 08:16 PM   #31
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Default Re: Pacers offer 10th Pick for Jonny Flynn - Rejected!

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Exactly.

If you redo last years draft.

Evans
Curry
Collison
Lawson
Rubio
Jennings
Holiday


All 7 of those guys are going to go before Flynn at the PG position. Its 50/50 between who goes first between Flynn & Beaubois due to Robo's high upside.

You're telling me Minnesota isn't holding onto Rubio's rights, and signing Ramon Sessions to a multi-year deal because they belive Flynn is their future at PG.

Minnesota continues to go about making stupid decisions.


stupid decisions????? coming from a guy that left Griffin off his "new" draft order.......
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:17 PM   #32
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Default Re: Pacers offer 10th Pick for Jonny Flynn - Rejected!

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Why don't the Pacers just take Avery Bradley at #10. Or has he done something in workouts to make them think he can't be an effective point guard in this league?

All the better; hope Avery falls to #18.
You mean besides not playing like a PG at all?
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:32 PM   #33
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dumbass knicks fans i see made it here to spew that they think they know what theyre talking about.

hey tards, let me make it understandable.

flynn has 1 year under his belt and was drafted @ #6.

why would we trade him for a #10? oh im sorry, if you dont avg 20+ ppg, and over 7 apg in your rookie year, you suck.

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Old 06-21-2010, 09:14 PM   #34
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Reported by some Indiana insider.

Hmmm.....Considering TWolves hopefully have Rubio and already have Sessions, maybe they should have done it.

Terrible decision by both teams, Flynn's not very good, at least not "starting point guard" good. The Pacers shouldn't have offered, the Wolves shouldn't have said no.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:19 PM   #35
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Default Re: Pacers offer 10th Pick for Jonny Flynn - Rejected!

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flynn has 1 year under his belt and was drafted @ #6.

why would we trade him for a #10? oh im sorry, if you dont avg 20+ ppg, and over 7 apg in your rookie year, you suck.

What kind of ass backwards logic is that? Who cares when someone is drafted...only matters how good they are. In a redraft, Flynn would go about 15th at best.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:33 PM   #36
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Default Re: Pacers offer 10th Pick for Jonny Flynn - Rejected!

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What kind of ass backwards logic is that? Who cares when someone is drafted...only matters how good they are. In a redraft, Flynn would go about 15th at best.
so go ahead, show us your wits and give us a redraft.

im going to go pee now so i dont soil myself later.

hey if flynn can shoot sub 40% like jennings, maybe he'd of gotten drafted earlier too huh?!
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:39 PM   #37
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so go ahead, show us your wits and give us a redraft.

im going to go pee now so i dont soil myself later.

hey if flynn can shoot sub 40% like jennings, maybe he'd of gotten drafted earlier too huh?!

Not in order, but guys most likely ahead or equal to Flynn:


Griffin
Harden
Evans
Rubio
Curry
DeRozan
Jennings
Williams
Holiday
Lawson
Collison
Caspi
Beaubois
Gibson
Blair
Jerebko


So Flynn probably in that 14 - 19 range somewhere......
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:40 PM   #38
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Default Re: Pacers offer 10th Pick for Jonny Flynn - Rejected!

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Not in order, but guys most likely ahead or equal to Flynn:


Griffin
Harden
Evans
Rubio
Curry
DeRozan
Jennings
Williams
Holiday
Lawson
Collison
Caspi
Beaubois
Gibson
Blair
Jerebko


So Flynn probably in that 14 - 19 range somewhere......
None of those guys would go ahead of Flynn, with the exception of maybe Williams
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:45 PM   #39
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Default Re: Pacers offer 10th Pick for Jonny Flynn - Rejected!

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Not in order, but guys most likely ahead or equal to Flynn:


Griffin
Harden
Evans
Rubio
Curry
DeRozan
Jennings
Williams
Holiday
Lawson
Collison
Caspi
Beaubois
Gibson
Blair
Jerebko


So Flynn probably in that 14 - 19 range somewhere......
lol. so flynns automatically 14, even though half of them i wouldnt take over him?

give it more than a year before you start doing redrafts.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:51 PM   #40
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Why so much hate on Flynn? Admiteddly I didn't watch him much, but from his stats, he put up pretty decent numbers. Deron Williams put up similar numbers as a rookie, though Flynn is averaging about a turnover more.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:55 PM   #41
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Why so much hate on Flynn? Admiteddly I didn't watch him much, but from his stats, he put up pretty decent numbers. Deron Williams put up similar numbers as a rookie, though Flynn is averaging about a turnover more.

With me personally, it's that he's a really bad defender (I'd actually assumed he was decent until I watched him play in the NBA) with no real specilizaiton. He's not the fastest guy in the league, not an elite passer, not a good shooter, and he's undersized. I think he's at best going to be Raymond Felton, which isn't what you want out of a lottery pick.
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Old 06-21-2010, 10:00 PM   #42
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Default Re: Pacers offer 10th Pick for Jonny Flynn - Rejected!

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What kind of ass backwards logic is that? Who cares when someone is drafted...only matters how good they are. In a redraft, Flynn would go about 15th at best.

If 'Sota hired a new GM this summer and he came in and traded Flynn for the 10th pick, I would understand. He obviously wants to make his mark on the organization and if he felt, as you do, that Flynn was worth the #10 pick in this years draft I can see where he is coming from.

However, if Kahn pulls the same deal it signals to the owner that he royally ****ed up last year and he isn't fit to earn his salary. A MAJOR career limiting move. We all just watched Glen Taylor suffer through McHale for what felt like a decade... Kahn obviously has job security and all he has to do is keep Taylor believing in Kahn's vision for the team.

You DON'T admit to making a mistake of that magnitude if you want to keep your seven figure salary... you just don't. You work with the situation and try to turn it into something decent. If you get canned you get canned but you don't say "Hey boss... I really ****ed up that '09 draft. Ah well, there's always next year, right?"

I haven't watched enough of Flynn to rank him as you have but he still has decent potential, he just didn't set the league on fire last year.
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:25 AM   #43
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stupid decisions????? coming from a guy that left Griffin off his "new" draft order.......
Are you serious? You do realize I only listed PG's?

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