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Old 01-14-2013, 09:52 PM   #31
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Not to take sides here because I see where you and mr sax are both coming from. I'd like to answer the first part of your post.

When we had the roster that won 2 chmpionships, it wasn't just about the stars but we had also had very good role players step up when they were needed the most. Take for example Ariza's performance against Orlando in the finals, or Artest's big offensive output against the celtics in game 7. These are just examples of how Phil Jackson had brought the best out of all of his players, and when the time had come, the team was always playoff-ready.

Now let us compare the two rosters. This roster has 5 guys that can average 20 points a game on any other team. Now lets look at the role guys.

* Did we expect Jodie Meeks to be as inconsistent as he is thus far into the season?

* Did we expect Jamison to be inconsistent as he is thus far into the season?

* Would guys like Darius Morris get playing time on other teams?

This all leads to what I think, is just one question regarding this team. With Nash, Kobe, Dwight, and Pau Gasol all having conflicting styles of basketball, could the main problem of this lakers team be that they do not yet have an identity? I think thats the main issue. If they had any idea of what the team's identity would be, we can probably count on the role players all contributing appropriately.

This now presents the problem that D'Antoni is forcing an identity on this team that cannot come away successful, with this team being considerably old, and our youngest starter is a Center, which are generally slower than all the other positions in the starting five. Add to that the fact that D'Antoni also wants this team to be a bunch of gunners. With all due respect to him, Kobe was never a top 3 point shooter. Nash probably could have that argument made for him, but he chooses to try and present these other guys with opportunities to score. Then the role players come in, and its been such a roller coaster season for them.

To begin winning regular season games, one would need to do whatever D'Antoni wants. Bring in his style of players. Then you can ask yourself the question, "would that group of players win a championship together?"

D'Antoni got close to the finals, but the spurs and their proven ways have always shut the suns out in the finals minutes of every series. One could then present the argument, that perhaps with Kobe Bryant on this team, he could be that one player to finally bring D'Antoni to the land that nobody would thought he'd ever make.

This is too confusing. What do we do!?!?!?!?!?!

1. In short, do we dump all of the players.......or the coach who can't win = Bye 'Antoni.

2. If this Lakers team had me and you on it, it the Lakers would be better now than the teams that won those last 2 championships

3. We got to the finals the year before that WITHOUT Ariza and without Bynum. Bottom line.....no excuses, this roster is light years ahead of those years.

Meeks......I didn't expect anything from him at all.....not good , not bad.
I tell you what....I never expected Meeks to get more shot attempts than Dwight.....not even in 1 single game.....and it had become the norm for 2-3 weeks.
Jamison......a victim of a very erratic bad coach.

Darius? Who knows, who really cares, our season.......and ability to even beat bad teams should have absolutely nothing to do with him.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:38 AM   #32
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1. In short, do we dump all of the players.......or the coach who can't win = Bye 'Antoni.

2. If this Lakers team had me and you on it, it the Lakers would be better now than the teams that won those last 2 championships

3. We got to the finals the year before that WITHOUT Ariza and without Bynum. Bottom line.....no excuses, this roster is light years ahead of those years.

Meeks......I didn't expect anything from him at all.....not good , not bad.
I tell you what....I never expected Meeks to get more shot attempts than Dwight.....not even in 1 single game.....and it had become the norm for 2-3 weeks.
Jamison......a victim of a very erratic bad coach.

Bottom line...the Lakers are not the best team in the NBA. Accept it.

Darius? Who knows, who really cares, our season.......and ability to even beat bad teams should have absolutely nothing to do with him.

Bottom line...the Lakers are no longer the top team in the NBA. Accept it.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:21 AM   #33
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1. In short, do we dump all of the players.......or the coach who can't win = Bye 'Antoni.

2. If this Lakers team had me and you on it, it the Lakers would be better now than the teams that won those last 2 championships

3. We got to the finals the year before that WITHOUT Ariza and without Bynum. Bottom line.....no excuses, this roster is light years ahead of those years.

Meeks......I didn't expect anything from him at all.....not good , not bad.
I tell you what....I never expected Meeks to get more shot attempts than Dwight.....not even in 1 single game.....and it had become the norm for 2-3 weeks.
Jamison......a victim of a very erratic bad coach.

Darius? Who knows, who really cares, our season.......and ability to even beat bad teams should have absolutely nothing to do with him.

dumping the coach always is not going to help ...

Lets talk about the players:
Pau: he is done right after we won the 2nd ring...we won with him in the post and LO on the perimeter...even the great PHIL JACKSON couldnt get both Bynum/Pau on the court at the same time. Phil got lucky in the sense he had Lamar pus$y odom on his roster...>Brown/D'toni dont have it...
Its time to trade Pau Gasol cause the NBA is moving from 2 bigs on team to 1 big plus all guard/sf lineups..Look at Lebron/Melo playing the 4 position

Kobe: kobe's offball defense is 1 of the worst in the NBA right now. his onball defense is great..but pathetic son of a b!tch doesnt even close on to a shooter...fcuker is suppose to be a leader...why does he has to shot everytime he touches the ball??? you know he can get Howard more involved so he can play defense on the other end....
just like you said the other day of reverse race...this is same...why would I give a fcuk on Defense if I knew kobe is going to jack up shots on the other end

MWP: he is done defensively...he cant guard nobody for the entire game.....

lol...Jamison being the culprit of bad coaching...he never ever plays any defense....never ever...its pathetic to watch him play defense....

thing is this roster is old as shit....they would have gone the other way around by surrounding old kobe with athletic players....but they got in players who look kobe like a 24yr old kobe....thats the problem...THE FCUKING AGE
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:48 AM   #34
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dumping the coach always is not going to help ...

Lets talk about the players:
Pau: he is done right after we won the 2nd ring...we won with him in the post and LO on the perimeter...even the great PHIL JACKSON couldnt get both Bynum/Pau on the court at the same time. Phil got lucky in the sense he had Lamar pus$y odom on his roster...>Brown/D'toni dont have it...
Its time to trade Pau Gasol cause the NBA is moving from 2 bigs on team to 1 big plus all guard/sf lineups..Look at Lebron/Melo playing the 4 position

Kobe: kobe's offball defense is 1 of the worst in the NBA right now. his onball defense is great..but pathetic son of a b!tch doesnt even close on to a shooter...fcuker is suppose to be a leader...why does he has to shot everytime he touches the ball??? you know he can get Howard more involved so he can play defense on the other end....
just like you said the other day of reverse race...this is same...why would I give a fcuk on Defense if I knew kobe is going to jack up shots on the other end

MWP: he is done defensively...he cant guard nobody for the entire game.....

lol...Jamison being the culprit of bad coaching...he never ever plays any defense....never ever...its pathetic to watch him play defense....

thing is this roster is old as shit....they would have gone the other way around by surrounding old kobe with athletic players....but they got in players who look kobe like a 24yr old kobe....thats the problem...THE FCUKING AGE

Naahhh..."it's all about coaching". [rolling eyes]

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