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Old 09-18-2008, 10:35 PM   #1
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Default What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

Detroit offered Maxiel a 3 year 15M dollar extention offer.
Milsap is often compared to Maxiel.

Some things to consider:
-Maxiel had a bigger rookie contract.
-Maxiel would be restricted next year if he doesn't take it.
-Summer 2008 is different than summer 2009.
-I didn't hear much about Milsap and extention talk last year.
-Team situations are similar, but have important differences.

Does Milsap get a better or worse offer than Maxiel?
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:03 PM   #2
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

Landry's deal would seem a better indication of Milsap's worth. He's not half the player offensively that Landy is while similar otherwise.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:32 AM   #3
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Landry's deal would seem a better indication of Milsap's worth. He's not half the player offensively that Landy is while similar otherwise.

I haven't heard about Landry's deal. What does he have in front of him?
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:13 AM   #4
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

3 year 9 million offer sheet from the Bobcats. He's a bargain for that but with teams saving up for 2010 Milsap might not be able to expect even that much?
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3 year 9 million offer sheet from the Bobcats. He's a bargain for that but with teams saving up for 2010 Milsap might not be able to expect even that much?

Someone mentioned Turiaf in the Landry thread.

Turif, 4 year 17M.
Maxiel, 3 year 15M.
Landry 3 year 9M.
Milsap...

If we can get him for less than 5M/year, I definately think we need to bring him back, even if he is just a 24 minute player off the bench.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:38 AM   #6
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

Assuming they have the money to do so of course after Boozer, Okur, etc.
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Old 09-26-2008, 08:24 PM   #7
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

Well, you gotta wonder...if Boozer and Okur want too much...and Milsap will sign for 4 year 16M...Milsap will be developed and very good through that contract. He probably won't be better than either Boozer or Okur, but for 4M per year he might not be that big a step off from them.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:09 PM   #8
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

Agreed but I see the Jazz paying Boozer whatever he commands.
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:41 PM   #9
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

Looks like Maxiel is turning down the extension.
Milsap could ask for more than that too, I guess.
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:51 PM   #10
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

He can ask but based on what Landry got I wouldn't expect he'll get it.
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:53 PM   #11
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

resign millsap to 5 year 20 mill

trade boozer, cj miles, & brevin knight for

kirk hinrich, andres, nocioni, ty thomas , 09 1st and rights to omer asik

would that be a good deal in the long run for the jazz?

dwill, hinrich, & price- best group of gaurds in the league

brewer,ak47, nocioni, korver- as the 2-3's

is the frontcourt or millsap/ty thomas and okur/fesenko/koufos good enough? + the top 5-10 pick?

i could see why you wouldnt trade boozer- i think utah has a good chance to be a top 2-3 team this year- but i just wonder if you could get huge return on a boozer trade and wonder if utah is in position personal wise to make a trade like that
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

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would that be a good deal in the long run for the jazz?

No. Who's going to score inside?

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dwill, hinrich, & price- best group of gaurds in the league

hardly

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brewer,ak47, nocioni, korver- as the 2-3's

You forgot Harpring.

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is the frontcourt or millsap/ty thomas and okur/fesenko/koufos good enough? + the top 5-10 pick?

No cuz none of them can score in the post consistently.
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:48 PM   #13
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

Looks good for the Bulls. Throw in expiring contracts like Gooden and Gray and it might make more sense.
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

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resign millsap to 5 year 20 mill

trade boozer, cj miles, & brevin knight for

kirk hinrich, andres, nocioni, ty thomas , 09 1st and rights to omer asik

would that be a good deal in the long run for the jazz?

dwill, hinrich, & price- best group of gaurds in the league

brewer,ak47, nocioni, korver- as the 2-3's

is the frontcourt or millsap/ty thomas and okur/fesenko/koufos good enough? + the top 5-10 pick?

i could see why you wouldnt trade boozer- i think utah has a good chance to be a top 2-3 team this year- but i just wonder if you could get huge return on a boozer trade and wonder if utah is in position personal wise to make a trade like that

You're going in the right direction with Hinrich and Nocioni in Utah. Sloan would play them, guaranteed. Defensive, hard working.

Fes has been pretty bad. Had that one 10/10 game though . From what I have seen out of Koufos, I think he could be another Okur type player. He moves a bit faster, too. But, Milsap and Okur couldn't get it done.
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Default Re: What does Maxiel's offer mean for Milsap?

He'd like Hinrich and Nocioni but with that trade there wouldn't be a whole lot of minutes for either.

Fesenko doesn't look bad. He just needs time which Sloan isn't giving him same with Koufos. He already looks like he could be a better all-around player than Okur. He's definitely got game.
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