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Old 09-15-2006, 10:54 PM   #1
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On a prior thread folks suggested Shaq was more dominant than Kareem was. So, to clarify:
Kareem 10-time first-team All-NBA (19 time all-star)
Shaq 4-time

Kareem 5-time first-team ALL-D
Shaq...none...ever

Kareem 6 MVPs
Shaq 1

Kareem 0 times out of action due to late belated toe surgery.
Shaq 1 time because he didn't want to disturb his summer off...slacker.
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:59 PM   #2
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i think there is no question that kareem is the best center besides Bryon Russel to play the game. Kareem has the most points ever...that by itself separates him from everyone.
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Old 09-16-2006, 01:21 AM   #3
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On a prior thread folks suggested Shaq was more dominant than Kareem was. So, to clarify:
Kareem 10-time first-team All-NBA (19 time all-star)
Shaq 4-time

Kareem 5-time first-team ALL-D
Shaq...none...ever

Kareem 6 MVPs
Shaq 1

Kareem 0 times out of action due to late belated toe surgery.
Shaq 1 time because he didn't want to disturb his summer off...slacker.

Dumb
Shaq is 8-TIME first team All-NBA
1st TEAM all-D is a BULLSH*T award
every1 KNOWS only 1 MVP to shaq is a SHAME

u can talk about who īs more skilled (KAREEM EASILY),
but about DOMINANT...be serius ok ...its a 220 pounds guy against a 320 pounds guy...u are on drugs or u are just another p*ssy shaq hater
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Old 09-16-2006, 01:24 AM   #4
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i think there is no question that kareem is the best center besides Bryon Russel to play the game. Kareem has the most points ever...that by itself separates him from everyone.

most point ever cuz he played until 128 yrs old
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Old 09-16-2006, 02:10 AM   #5
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most point ever cuz he played until 128 yrs old

well still, the way I see it he still accomplished it...i mean its not like he was a bad player either...he was a great center that had a trademark shot that soon won him titles, fame, money.

he was a great player
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:46 AM   #6
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Kareem easily is an all time top 5 player, his skills for a center are second to none. Shaq is more dominant but Kareem has accomplished more individually and even winning wise.
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Old 09-16-2006, 09:27 AM   #7
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Kareem 0 times out of action due to late belated toe surgery.
Shaq 1 time because he didn't want to disturb his summer off...slacker.

Classic!!!

The NBA game was so different back then and I dont know how Shaq would have faired. It was less about the bling, and more about team orientation, basic skills and hard work. There was more talent on each team as the players almost always had 4 years of college under their belt and fewer teams. The players did not move around from team to team as they do now either, so you had players that knew each other much better and played better together. The likes or Kareem, Wilt, and Bill Russell might have mopped the floor with Shaq.

On the other hand, Shaq had incredible speed and quickness for a man of his size, so that might have made up for the skills difference.

How sad it is that we simply cannot turn a dial and select players and or teams to play against each other from different eras. That would be fun!
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Old 09-16-2006, 11:13 AM   #8
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Shaq is 8-TIME first team All-NBA
1st TEAM all-D is a BULLSH*T award
every1 KNOWS only 1 MVP to shaq is a SHAME

u can talk about who īs more skilled (KAREEM EASILY),
but about DOMINANT...be serius ok ...its a 220 pounds guy against a 320 pounds guy...u are on drugs or u are just another p*ssy shaq hater

pay attention and get your facts straight before you spew your ignorance...

according to NBA.com Shaq is 4-TIME first-team All-NBA, not 8.
if you think All-D is BS, then you got screws loose.

If Shaq was more dominant, at his most dominant he would have averaged more rebounds than Kareem at his most dominant (he didn't), or at least more blocked shots (he didn't), or maybe more points (he didn't), or maybe Shaq played against tougher centers (he didn't).

ps I love Shaq and wish he was still a Laker. He has been the best center of his era, no question. But he is not the best center ever.
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Old 09-16-2006, 12:42 PM   #9
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pay attention and get your facts straight before you spew your ignorance...

according to NBA.com Shaq is 4-TIME first-team All-NBA, not 8.
if you think All-D is BS, then you got screws loose.

If Shaq was more dominant, at his most dominant he would have averaged more rebounds than Kareem at his most dominant (he didn't), or at least more blocked shots (he didn't), or maybe more points (he didn't), or maybe Shaq played against tougher centers (he didn't).

ps I love Shaq and wish he was still a Laker. He has been the best center of his era, no question. But he is not the best center ever.


ofmg....SHAQ IS 8-TIME(98,00,01,02,03,04,05,06) 1st ALL TEAM ...NBA.COM IS JUST SLOW


RETARDED

SOMALIAN KAREEN PLAYED AGAISNT PUSSYES 6'6'' centers , YOUNG THE DREAM AND YOUNG MALONE
SHAQ PLAYED AGAINST PRIME DREAM,D-ROB,PAT,PRIME MALONE,TIM DUNCAN,GARNET ...hmmm wat more?

i didnt said hes the best center ...i said he is (BY FAR) the most dominant

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Old 09-16-2006, 01:57 PM   #10
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ofmg....SHAQ IS 8-TIME(98,00,01,02,03,04,05,06) 1st ALL TEAM ...NBA.COM IS JUST SLOW


RETARDED

SOMALIAN KAREEN PLAYED AGAISNT PUSSYES 6'6'' centers , YOUNG THE DREAM AND YOUNG MALONE
SHAQ PLAYED AGAINST PRIME DREAM,D-ROB,PAT,PRIME MALONE,TIM DUNCAN,GARNET ...hmmm wat more?

i didnt said hes the best center ...i said he is (BY FAR) the most dominant

I respectfully dont really agree with you here. Read what I wrote above. And as far as domination from a physical perspective, I don't think Shaq could have pushed Wilt or Russell around that easily, and Shaq would have actually had to play some real defense for a whole game and a whole season.

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Old 09-16-2006, 02:09 PM   #11
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Also: one thing I would like to say here is lets try our best not to over use foul language or get too personal. We can respectfully disagree with each other, but there's no need to be mean. The fun part here is learning what everyone's opinions are and sharing good information about the Lakers that we can't get in the newspapers, etc.

We should have fun here!

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Old 09-16-2006, 02:20 PM   #12
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do u think Kareen is THAT better than Mutombo phisically and on defense?
did u see 2001 nba finals?
Shaq just RAPED the DPOY(another **** award like "1st team defense")
why it would be different against Wilt and Kareen?
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SoCalMike

do u think Kareen is THAT better than Mutombo phisically and on defense?
did u see 2001 nba finals?
Shaq just RAPED the DPOY(another **** award like "1st team defense")
why it would be different against Wilt and Kareen?

I agree with you if shaq and KareeMMMM played 1 on 1 Shaq would slam it on him almost every time

But were not talking about 1 on 1. Were talking greatest player.
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I agree with you if shaq and KareeMMMM played 1 on 1 Shaq would slam it on him almost every time

o finally some1 can see that (at least)...its enough to me


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o finally some1 can see that (at least)...its enough to me


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Anytime!!
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