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Old 01-06-2009, 07:46 PM   #1
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Drew Brees understood what breaking a record set by Dan Marino would mean to the New Orleans Saints.

So coming up 15 yards short was disappointing to the Saints quarterback, who on Tuesday was named The Associated Press 2008 NFL Offensive Player of the Year.

Brees threw for 5,069 yards, 15 fewer than Marino's 1984 mark and only the second time someone has eclipsed 5,000 yards passing in a season.

Drew Brees is the first Saint to win the AP Offensive Player of the Year Award.

Although the Saints were 8-8 and didn't make the playoffs, Brees performed so well he earned 22 votes in balloting by a nationwide panel of 50 sportswriters and broadcasters who cover the league. That easily beat Indianapolis quarterback Peyton Manning, last week named the NFL Most Valuable Player for the third time, and Minnesota running back Adrian Peterson. They tied for second with nine votes each.

San Diego Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers received six votes, and Carolina Panthers running back DeAngelo Williams (2); Atlanta Falcons running back Michael Turner (1); and Panthers wide receiver Steve Smith (1) also got votes.

Congrats Drew.
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:49 PM   #2
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Please GOBB, the football god of ISH, post your opinion
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Old 01-06-2009, 07:51 PM   #3
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how the hell is the AP going to vote Peyton as the MVP and then the same AP going to vote Brees in for OPOY???

makes no sense...
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:07 PM   #4
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Why do you continue to make yourself look stupid on football matters, prime? You're better off throwing the keyboard away when a football topic comes up for the most part.

There is a difference between putting up the best numbers and being the most valuable to your team. Think a little before you post. Jesus christ, are you really this ****ing ignorant?
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:09 PM   #5
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Why do you continue to make yourself look stupid on football matters, prime? You're better off throwing the keyboard away when a football topic comes up for the most part.

There is a difference between putting up the best numbers and being the most valuable to your team. Think a little before you post. Jesus christ, are you really this ****ing ignorant?
wow

of all the posters here to get on to me about saying it should have been Peyton instead you are the LAST I would have thought to do it...

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Old 01-06-2009, 08:16 PM   #6
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You misunderstand by stance on the Colts. I don't homer towards them - I always try to look at things as un-bias an possible and when I don't have an educated opinion on something NFL related I don't respond.

This award, offensive player of the year, has always been about stats and never about the context of those stats. Brees put up amazing numbers and almost broke the passing yards record. The award doesn't go to the best player, or the most valuable player... it's just about stats. Brees deserved it over Peyton and everyone else.

But stats are just stats without context. Those stats will never show how Brees didn't come through with big drives down the stretch of the season to get his team in the playoffs. Throwing picks when he should have been throwing touchdown passes or third down conversion passes.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:21 PM   #7
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Rivers had better stats IMO...regardless of Brees's yardage

I would have had AD over either of them though...and for MVP

but that is just me...

sorry about bringing up Peyton dude...
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:25 PM   #8
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I just want you to understand that this award and the MVP award are based on a different criteria. That's why their were two different winners this year.

AD doesn't deserve this award. He ran for 1700 yards and what, 10 touchdowns with very few passing receptions/yardage? That's not good enough when you have a guy almost break Dan' passing yardage record for a single season all while throwing for 34 touchdowns.
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I just want you to understand that this award and the MVP award are based on a different criteria. That's why their were two different winners this year.

AD doesn't deserve this award. He ran for 1700 yards and what, 10 touchdowns with very few passing receptions/yardage? That's not good enough when you have a guy almost break Dan' passing yardage record for a single season all while throwing for 34 touchdowns.
yeah, you're probably right about that...

I didn't know this was the "best stat award"...these awards just get silly sometimes

MVP = best QB or RB that has to be on a winning team (with a couple exceptions)

OPOY = offensive player with the best numbers

OK...got it


you know...alot of time when a QB has alot of passing yards it just means that his team is behind all the time and he has to pass alot...

I can remember a couple years ago when Kitna had a ton of passing yards and it was just because his team sucked and he was always passing...
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:36 PM   #10
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You're right. If player A passes for 350 yards while being down 20 at half time and his team loses by seven, while player B passes for 275 in a close game and pulls out the win, or lose, due to their defense messing up, which one is more impressive?

Obviously if you take those scenerios and play them out for the whole season, Player A would end up with some mind-blowing stats while Player B has very nice stats, but nothing eye-popping.

Those stats would tell you that Player A had the better year, but context and how you apply those stats show you that in fact, Player B was the more impressive player.

Stats are overrated if you don't know how to apply them to the big picture.
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:39 PM   #11
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In spite of the fact the Bush missed a few games.
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:12 PM   #12
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brees or peterson, both deserved
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:14 PM   #13
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Peterson had some costly fumbles
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:34 PM   #14
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Good choice. Brees almost carried the saints to a playoff berth. Brees also payed with his #1 reciver Colston being hurt most of the year. His recivers were Lance Moore, Devery Henderson, Robert Macheam. His defense also sucked so there's not much he could do about that. Drew Brees carried the New Orleans Saints, he deserved the award over AD.
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:39 PM   #15
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i realy hope the saints get some help defensivley i really want dree brees to win a super bowl hes probably my favorite qb nowadays
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