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Old 06-11-2009, 02:38 AM   #1
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A man fleeing police plowed his car into a crowd in Feltonville last night, killing three children and leaving the mother of one of them in critical condition.

The crash happened shortly after 7:30 on Third Street just south of Annsbury Street.

A witness who came upon the scene immediately after the accident called it horrific.

Samuel Colon, 41, who lives nearby, heard the crash and went to investigate, he said. He saw the bodies of two children who appeared to be have been dismembered and a girl pinned under the car.

"I checked her pulse, and she was gone," Colon said.

Lt. Frank Vanore, a police spokesman, gave this account:

At 7:29 p.m. at Fisher and Rising Sun Avenues in Olney, two men took a Yamaha motorcycle at gunpoint. One rode off on the Yamaha; the other fled in a silver Pontiac Grand Am.

At 7:31, an officer spotted the Pontiac at C Street and Roosevelt Boulevard and began chasing it.

The Pontiac turned south on Third and jumped the curb just south of Annsbury, Vanore said. It struck four people: three children younger than 10 - one a toddler - and a woman who was the mother of one of the victims, he said.

Two of the children were pronounced dead at the scene. Another was pronounced dead at St. Christopher's Hospital for Children. The woman, who is in her 20s, was taken to Albert Einstein Medical Center in critical condition.

The high-speed crash was so violent that the Pontiac was totaled and ended up wedged between a rowhouse and a utility pole.

The accident scene was frenetic, with scores of officers guarding a large perimeter to keep back the many people who had gathered, some overcome with emotion. At one point, police led two women away, one screaming: "She's only 7! She's only 7!"

Mayor Nutter, who arrived with his police commanders, spoke briefly with reporters.

"This is an incredible tragedy," he said.

"Three children killed senselessly through the action of this individual. All we can ask is that the citizens of the city pray for these children, pray for these families," he said.

The suspect, who was not identified, was taken to a hospital with injuries that were not life-threatening, Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey said. A gun was recovered from the Pontiac, police said.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/br...p id=16339736
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:53 AM   #2
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When I 1st read the thread title, I was thinking the cop was the guy who killed the 3 kids, but then reread and understood it was a man fleeing from the police.

Wow @ this story. Sad story...
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:27 AM   #3
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that's 3 counts of felony murder right there. hope he burns. oh yeah, the other guy on the motorcycle may be charged as well.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:34 AM   #4
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that f*cked..... this was in Philly? there are some seriously reckless people in this city.. to try and bail at that speed is just ridiculous..
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:43 AM   #5
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Why do I never see any posts about the GOOD the vast majority of cops do?

It's always just hate hate hate.

did you read the article?


cops did nothing wrong here.... this isnt about the police
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:56 AM   #6
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Wow, what a sad story. I can't image what it's like. I hope the killer burns in hell.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:08 AM   #7
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Police are just as much to blame as the killer.

We seem to be the only ones that have a police force that seems not capable of calling off a chase if deemed to dangerous.

Get a chopper to follow the guy, instead of after seeing the car calling on a full on chase. It's the sensible thing to do, and allows you to catch the guy while at a standstill.

It's very sad what happened and the guy should get back 10 fold in punishment what he did to those kids.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:12 AM   #8
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Police are just as much to blame as the killer.

We seem to be the only ones that have a police force that seems not capable of calling off a chase if deemed to dangerous.

Get a chopper to follow the guy, instead of after seeing the car calling on a full on chase. It's the sensible thing to do, and allows you to catch the guy while at a standstill.

It's very sad what happened and the guy should get back 10 fold in punishment what he did to those kids.

No they're not. Stop it
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:16 AM   #9
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No they're not. Stop it

Why risk a high speed chase through a busy area, that could no doubt lead to such a travesty, when a chopper could have been called to follow and avoid risk.

I mispoke in saying as much to blame, though it could have been handled differently to avoid something like this.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:20 AM   #10
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Police are just as much to blame as the killer.

We seem to be the only ones that have a police force that seems not capable of calling off a chase if deemed to dangerous.

Get a chopper to follow the guy, instead of after seeing the car calling on a full on chase. It's the sensible thing to do, and allows you to catch the guy while at a standstill.

It's very sad what happened and the guy should get back 10 fold in punishment what he did to those kids.


you have a point... some of the chases in Philly are very dangerous to the public and the police should have a better protocol here... but I cant blame 5-0 for this guy... this guy seemed hell bent on destruction...you'd be crazy to travel down some of these blocks at high speeds.... a terrible crash is all but certain...
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I agree. Cops have some of the most difficult jobs in the world.

It's easy to be a "back seat driver"...

I realize this.

Though would a chopper honestly not be a better option, particularly at 7:30 when traffic would still most likely be intense and a lot of persons making their way home?
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:35 AM   #12
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I realize this.

Though would a chopper honestly not be a better option, particularly at 7:30 when traffic would still most likely be intense and a lot of persons making their way home?


the chopper is a great idea....
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:40 AM   #13
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I realize this.

Though would a chopper honestly not be a better option, particularly at 7:30 when traffic would still most likely be intense and a lot of persons making their way home?

I understand that seems easier, but if the city were to get a helicopter out every time they needed to find a criminal do you realize how much they would end up paying to apprehend criminals? Plus on top of that if they weren't tailing the car how would they keep track of the car the criminal was in? The idea sounds good, but I'm not sure how practical it is.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:46 AM   #14
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I understand that seems easier, but if the city were to get a helicopter out every time they needed to find a criminal do you realize how much they would end up paying to apprehend criminals? Plus on top of that if they weren't tailing the car how would they keep track of the car the criminal was in? The idea sounds good, but I'm not sure how practical it is.


its very practical and easy to do... Im sure the Philadelphia police have a policy on car chases already...

you dont need to break out a copter to find every criminal..... but if a car chase ensues... cops should be prepared to break it off at some point and call in air support
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:51 AM   #15
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^^ That is true, but how are you going to track the car without following it in order to let the helicopter know where the car is? Plus, if you are following it, then odds are they are going to try and escape, and you'd end up having to chase them anyway, even if it is to keep track of their location. And I somewhat doubt it's easy to identify cars from a bird's eye view (sure, colour of the roof top, but what else, the registration number?)
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