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Old 08-21-2009, 03:53 PM   #1
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Default Yao's injured player exception

I am wondering how the injury to Yao happened in the Playoffs, and a month later, the Rockets got the injured player exception to sign Ariza?

I understand his injury is going to keep him out most likely the entire year, but when the Kings requested the same exception for Shareef Abdur-Raheem, it took like a year and a half.

That is some B.S. if you ask me, just because Yao is a top tier NBAer, that doesnt give Houston the right to get the exception 4 weeks after the injury.

Now I know Shareef's was a career ending injury, which might be the reason it took so long, but the fact remains that Yao is alreay doing his rehab, so he might be able to play if the Rockets manage it well, and make it to the postseason.

I am not a David Stern fan, I think Rasheed Wallace said it right when he called him Napoleon.

P.S. I am a Lakers fan, and am hoping Ariza tears it up in Houston, he is a good player and hate to see him in another Uni.

Anyone have any idea why the difference in timetable?
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Old 08-21-2009, 04:07 PM   #2
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I am wondering how the injury to Yao happened in the Playoffs, and a month later, the Rockets got the injured player exception to sign Ariza?

I understand his injury is going to keep him out most likely the entire year, but when the Kings requested the same exception for Shareef Abdur-Raheem, it took like a year and a half.

That is some B.S. if you ask me, just because Yao is a top tier NBAer, that doesnt give Houston the right to get the exception 4 weeks after the injury.

Now I know Shareef's was a career ending injury, which might be the reason it took so long, but the fact remains that Yao is alreay doing his rehab, so he might be able to play if the Rockets manage it well, and make it to the postseason.

I am not a David Stern fan, I think Rasheed Wallace said it right when he called him Napoleon.

P.S. I am a Lakers fan, and am hoping Ariza tears it up in Houston, he is a good player and hate to see him in another Uni.

Anyone have any idea why the difference in timetable?
yeah, I was surprised they granted the exception at all. They tend to be really stingy with those.

Especially in light of how variable his recovery may be (or might have been at the time the exception was granted). I do think it smells fishy
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Old 08-21-2009, 04:12 PM   #3
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??? I thought Ariza was signed with the MLE. What happened ?

And I thought those exceptions were just for career-ending injuries ?
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Old 08-21-2009, 04:13 PM   #4
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??? I thought Ariza was signed with the MLE. What happened ?

And I thought those exceptions were just for career-ending injuries ?
no that was the initial report, but by the time he signed, they had an injury exception already approved. weaksauce if you ask me.

Either stern is biased or yao's injury is much worse than has been reported.
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Old 08-21-2009, 04:18 PM   #5
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no that was the initial report, but by the time he signed, they had an injury exception already approved. weaksauce if you ask me.

Either stern is biased or yao's injury is much worse than has been reported.

Both sound very plausible in these circumstances.
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Old 08-21-2009, 04:29 PM   #6
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DISABLED PLAYER EXCEPTION -- This exception allows a team which is over the cap to acquire a replacement for a disabled player who will be out for the remainder of that season (if the player is disabled between July 1 and November 30) or the following season (if the player is disabled after November 30). This exception can also be granted in the event of a player's death. This exception can only be used to acquire one player. The maximum salary for the replacement player is 50% of the injured player's salary, or the average salary, whichever is less (see question number 24 for the definition of "average salary"). Approval from the league (based on a determination by an NBA-designated physician) is required for this exception to be used. This exception can be used to sign a free agent, or to create room to accept a salary in trade. When used for trade, the team may acquire a player whose salary (including any trade bonus) is up to 100% of this exception plus $100,000 (not 125%). Also see question number 20 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.

If a player is disabled between July 1 and November 30, the team must acquire the replacement player within 45 days. If the player is disabled between December 1 and June 30, then the team has until October 1 to sign a replacement. If the disabled player comes back sooner than expected, then he may be activated immediately, and the replacement player is not affected. However, if the disabled player comes back before the exception is used, then the exception is lost.

Teams sometimes have had difficulty getting the NBA to approve an injury exception. For example, Danny Manning tore an ACL toward the end of the 1997-98 season, yet the NBA did not approve the Suns for this exception. More recently, the Magic did not receive this exception in 2003 for Grant Hill. However, this exception was granted in the 1999 offseason to San Antonio, so they could replace Sean Elliott, who was disabled due to kidney problems. This exception was also granted to Charlotte soon after Bobby Phills was killed.

Don't confuse this exception with the salary cap relief teams can apply for a year after losing a player to a career-ending injury or death (see question number 53). This exception allows a team to acquire a replacement player. The salary cap relief removes a contract from the books.

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Old 08-21-2009, 04:44 PM   #7
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Could be because they have another player out for much of the season in McGrady. He and Yao comprise of over half the salary cap so it's understandable.
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Old 08-21-2009, 04:53 PM   #8
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Thanks Mikaiel, i was reading all the complaing and was about to point out injury exception and career ending injury are two different things... it would be nice if folks would actually do some research before they start complaining about things being so unfair
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Thanks Mikaiel, i was reading all the complaing and was about to point out injury exception and career ending injury are two different things... it would be nice if folks would actually do some research before they start complaining about things being so unfair

Injury exceptions are just very rare things to begin with. Naturally, people want to examine any that go through.

A message board isn't a place to do homework. It is a place to learn from others and share whatever you might already know.
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